5 days a week in office is horrendous, I need a new job asap

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I wouldn't like it either. I will retire if forced back more than two days per week.

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Anonymous wrote:The USA is broke. Massive consumption and anemic production. The JoeTard economy is going through withdraw symptoms and 2023 is going to shock people straight .

What does this even mean? What withdraw symptoms?

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I'll never go in 4 or 5 days again. I'd like to work another 15-18 years, but if I had to I would just consult on my own for a while in between finding a job that allows at least 2 ideally more at home.

My work does lend itself to remote though - I do a lot of market research type work, writing, a little data analysis etc.

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Anonymous wrote:What did you do pre covid when it was standard/normal to be in the office 5days/week??

I worked for places that let me work from home and negotiated it from the start. I worked from home starting 2012. I’m glad the world has caught up to the advantages.

NP

Again…what are the advantages TO YOUR EMPLOYER ????

They get me as an employee 😀

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Anonymous wrote:What did you do pre covid when it was standard/normal to be in the office 5days/week??

I worked for places that let me work from home and negotiated it from the start. I worked from home starting 2012. I’m glad the world has caught up to the advantages.

NP

Again…what are the advantages TO YOUR EMPLOYER ????

They get me as an employee 😀

Plus they save on office space.

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Anonymous wrote:What did you do pre covid when it was standard/normal to be in the office 5days/week??

I worked for places that let me work from home and negotiated it from the start. I worked from home starting 2012. I’m glad the world has caught up to the advantages.

NP

Again…what are the advantages TO YOUR EMPLOYER ????

They get me as an employee 😀

We have been struggling to hire a SWE for a whole year due to 5 days in.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to a lot of audit and consulting work and the happiest by far company for working moms I ever did work at and had longest tenured employees had a strict zero WFH policy. Zero Flex Time on start and end dates, assigned lunch hours and an assigned break. With only a max of 10 minutes a day personal calls allowed during work hours. No internet on work computer and no personal cell phone use at desk. In emergency you get call on work phone.

The women I say that as it was literally 95 percent Moms loved it. Had choice of 7-3pm or 7:30 to 3:30pm.

Most women picked 7am it forced husband to chip in an make breakfast and gets kids on bus. Mom just got up showered and left. Mom
Then got home in time around kids getting off bus.

Mom had time ever day doctors appoints, dentists, sports for kids. Work outside office hours prohibited. There was no home access to work systems.

Work was very productive no chatting, politics and ran like a clock. Bosses would be written up if staff stayed late. The boss would tell everyone five minutes before me time to pack up, get coats. I recall area I was auditing they literally pulled push me out door a 3:35 pm and door locked a d lights out.

What it showed me it is not WFH people want it Is consistency. Yes they have sick days, maternity leave. Personal days. But ZERO half days no coming in late. They are even had Floaters assigned to cover your job when you were on vacation.

I was shocked. I never saw another company do this.

It was a 7.45 hour day in office. They worked 6 hour and 45 minutes a day.

I recognize your bad writing and story. And no, you're not a good employer.

It's the same woman-hating, working-mom-hating, pro-office guy who posts here all the time. He has a SAHM

How does he have time to post here so much? Entertaining though.

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Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

I work harder and longer since the pandemic and our numbers reflect that.

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Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

Sounds like you're a lazy a$$ when you're WFH and so you project that on others. Maybe get some adderall to deal with your personal issues.

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Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Employers have become more reasonable as they've recognized that telework provides huge benefits to employees at minimal or no cost to employers. It's a great retention tool.

^^^ Fixed that for you.

what are the benefits to employees? Commute is the only thing I can think of

Commute is huge. But also not being in a distracting germ filled office, for me a more comfortable office (not freezing like my work office, more comfortable desk and chair), more comfortable clothes, access to full kitchen and thus better/healthier food options, ability to do chores/errands during lunch break.

The commute was there when you accepted the position. The offices are exactly as germ filled as they were before. If you have kids in school or daycare - you are FAR FAR more exposed to germs than any office. I never get sick from work. You can request the ac and chair be corrected. Every single office is "dress for your day" now. Casual unless fancy customers are in. We have a full kitchen (3 in fact) where I put all my lunch items. You can do chores and run errands during your office lunch break. Face it - you want to get a 40hr week paycheck for 15 hour work. You want to wear sweats and pj bottoms. You want to play with your kids when they get home. You want to take calls from dance practice. We get it. Admit it.

Sounds like you're just admitting you're incapable of getting anything done without having a boss looking over your shoulder.

+a million, pp cannot manage his time so assume others cannot either.

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Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

Speak for yourself. On days when I'm really busy and/or have a tight deadline I get all done by staying home. Save two hours commuting and the endless interruptions in the office. I've been mostly doing my required two days a week and I put fewer hours in bc of the commute time and get less done because everyone is constantly stopping by my office to chat.

I call BS

Whatever. My pay has gone up 60% since the start of the pandemic. Have been doing great managing productivity.

Are you in sales?
Did you change jobs?
You boss just strolled up to you and said - wow love what you've done here - heres a butt ton more money?
Nope
Nope
Nope

I work in a consulting field that has billable hours and was promoted twice over the past three years, am now in middle management. So yes, my boss has been please with my WFH.

Wait, middle management? Pardon me while I genuflect!

Moving goalposts because you are losing the argument lol. PP was productive during covid, this conflicts with your worldview because you are a lazy ass so you assume others are too, take your L.

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Anonymous wrote: I can only work remotely with my sleep problems and chronic pain. I am so much more productive at home when I can take a nap whenever and then get up and keep working. I am not in a customer-facing profession, so that helps.

The factory schedule mentioned above would kill me.

Look for a new job, OP.

Oh boy. Thank you. You just proved my point.

Not really. What the poster did was prove that flex working hours meet individuals needs for lots of different reasons. Some people might exercise during their lunch break, some might nap, some might do an errand. All totally fine and a huge benefit of working from home.

Thank you, PP. WFH arraignment also provides me with working with dignity and the company with a productive high-achieving employee. I’ve won multiple awards for the company, never missed deadlines, and constantly get praised for my work.

here is your cookie:

Wow, you embarrass yourself, while the high-performing WFH employee has won the argument. I think you are the only jerk on this thread spamming it with your personal issues and resentment. You need to join the adult world or maybe you're the one who needs a cookie.

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Anonymous wrote: I can only work remotely with my sleep problems and chronic pain. I am so much more productive at home when I can take a nap whenever and then get up and keep working. I am not in a customer-facing profession, so that helps.

The factory schedule mentioned above would kill me.

Look for a new job, OP.

Oh boy. Thank you. You just proved my point.

Not really. What the poster did was prove that flex working hours meet individuals needs for lots of different reasons. Some people might exercise during their lunch break, some might nap, some might do an errand. All totally fine and a huge benefit of working from home.

+1 and not just to the PP, but to her employer who is able to reap the advantages of her skills and knowledge with her working from home. the anti-wfh people seem to think that employees are fungible - and perhaps to an extent they are. but to the extent they are not, then flexibility means that people who wouldn't otherwise be part of your workforce can be - you have a much wider pool of workers, with a wider pool of skills, than if you only hired people in your immediate physical area who were willing or able to come into an office five days a week.

There are literally millions of employees - educated, experienced employees not crying about being able to nap

NP. From the description, I doubt there are throngs of similarly experienced and successful workers to step in and take PP's place. That person sounds like a superstar. She manages to succeed despite health challenges.

To that poster, I don't have chronic pain, but my DD does. I watch her manage it to the best of her ability every day, while still finding ways to be successful. I haven't lived it, but I have a window to your struggle. You sound amazing! Don't let the haters get you down.

Thank you so much! I wish all the best to your DD, she’s lucky to have your support.

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Anonymous wrote: I can only work remotely with my sleep problems and chronic pain. I am so much more productive at home when I can take a nap whenever and then get up and keep working. I am not in a customer-facing profession, so that helps.

The factory schedule mentioned above would kill me.

Look for a new job, OP.

Oh boy. Thank you. You just proved my point.

Not really. What the poster did was prove that flex working hours meet individuals needs for lots of different reasons. Some people might exercise during their lunch break, some might nap, some might do an errand. All totally fine and a huge benefit of working from home.

Thank you, PP. WFH arraignment also provides me with working with dignity and the company with a productive high-achieving employee. I’ve won multiple awards for the company, never missed deadlines, and constantly get praised for my work.

here is your cookie:

PP doesn't need a cookie, they have professional recognition, success and a flexible work environment, you daft potato.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Choose another job.

It's fine if you WFH, but you should be paid less. Jobs that require in-perosn work (retail, teachers, businesses, restaurants) should be paid more as the WFH jobs take a pay reduction.

Y'all are just spoiled babies, honestly. I work in person 5 days/week, and don't want your cars added to the traffic. But your complaints are really pathetic.