5 days a week in office is horrendous, I need a new job asap

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

Speak for yourself. On days when I'm really busy and/or have a tight deadline I get all done by staying home. Save two hours commuting and the endless interruptions in the office. I've been mostly doing my required two days a week and I put fewer hours in bc of the commute time and get less done because everyone is constantly stopping by my office to chat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to a lot of audit and consulting work and the happiest by far company for working moms I ever did work at and had longest tenured employees had a strict zero WFH policy. Zero Flex Time on start and end dates, assigned lunch hours and an assigned break. With only a max of 10 minutes a day personal calls allowed during work hours. No internet on work computer and no personal cell phone use at desk. In emergency you get call on work phone.

The women I say that as it was literally 95 percent Moms loved it. Had choice of 7-3pm or 7:30 to 3:30pm.

Most women picked 7am it forced husband to chip in an make breakfast and gets kids on bus. Mom just got up showered and left. Mom
Then got home in time around kids getting off bus.

Mom had time ever day doctors appoints, dentists, sports for kids. Work outside office hours prohibited. There was no home access to work systems.

Work was very productive no chatting, politics and ran like a clock. Bosses would be written up if staff stayed late. The boss would tell everyone five minutes before me time to pack up, get coats. I recall area I was auditing they literally pulled push me out door a 3:35 pm and door locked a d lights out.

What it showed me it is not WFH people want it Is consistency. Yes they have sick days, maternity leave. Personal days. But ZERO half days no coming in late. They are even had Floaters assigned to cover your job when you were on vacation.

I was shocked. I never saw another company do this.

It was a 7.45 hour day in office. They worked 6 hour and 45 minutes a day.

Okay Vladimir- first of all 7-3 is an 8 hour day not 7.45, second of all no one wants to have to take

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Employers have become more reasonable as they've recognized that telework provides huge benefits to employees at minimal or no cost to employers. It's a great retention tool.

^^^ Fixed that for you.

what are the benefits to employees? Commute is the only thing I can think of

Commute is huge. But also not being in a distracting germ filled office, for me a more comfortable office (not freezing like my work office, more comfortable desk and chair), more comfortable clothes, access to full kitchen and thus better/healthier food options, ability to do chores/errands during lunch break.

The commute was there when you accepted the position. The offices are exactly as germ filled as they were before. If you have kids in school or daycare - you are FAR FAR more exposed to germs than any office. I never get sick from work. You can request the ac and chair be corrected. Every single office is "dress for your day" now. Casual unless fancy customers are in. We have a full kitchen (3 in fact) where I put all my lunch items. You can do chores and run errands during your office lunch break. Face it - you want to get a 40hr week paycheck for 15 hour work. You want to wear sweats and pj bottoms. You want to play with your kids when they get home. You want to take calls from dance practice. We get it. Admit it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know you are free to look for another job. Your office is probably interested in reducing staff and are using the 5 days in the office rule to get rid of people

+1 Yes, and OP sounds like the perfect candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

Speak for yourself. On days when I'm really busy and/or have a tight deadline I get all done by staying home. Save two hours commuting and the endless interruptions in the office. I've been mostly doing my required two days a week and I put fewer hours in bc of the commute time and get less done because everyone is constantly stopping by my office to chat.

I call BS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to a lot of audit and consulting work and the happiest by far company for working moms I ever did work at and had longest tenured employees had a strict zero WFH policy. Zero Flex Time on start and end dates, assigned lunch hours and an assigned break. With only a max of 10 minutes a day personal calls allowed during work hours. No internet on work computer and no personal cell phone use at desk. In emergency you get call on work phone.

The women I say that as it was literally 95 percent Moms loved it. Had choice of 7-3pm or 7:30 to 3:30pm.

Most women picked 7am it forced husband to chip in an make breakfast and gets kids on bus. Mom just got up showered and left. Mom
Then got home in time around kids getting off bus.

Mom had time ever day doctors appoints, dentists, sports for kids. Work outside office hours prohibited. There was no home access to work systems.

Work was very productive no chatting, politics and ran like a clock. Bosses would be written up if staff stayed late. The boss would tell everyone five minutes before me time to pack up, get coats. I recall area I was auditing they literally pulled push me out door a 3:35 pm and door locked a d lights out.

What it showed me it is not WFH people want it Is consistency. Yes they have sick days, maternity leave. Personal days. But ZERO half days no coming in late. They are even had Floaters assigned to cover your job when you were on vacation.

I was shocked. I never saw another company do this.

It was a 7.45 hour day in office. They worked 6 hour and 45 minutes a day.

Okay Vladimir- first of all 7-3 is an 8 hour day not 7.45, second of all no one wants to have to take a mandated hour + lunch break if their goal is to finish work as quickly as possible, Thirdly no option to work partial/half days is about as un- parent friendly as you can get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Employers have become more reasonable as they've recognized that telework provides huge benefits to employees at minimal or no cost to employers. It's a great retention tool.

^^^ Fixed that for you.

what are the benefits to employees? Commute is the only thing I can think of

Commute is huge. But also not being in a distracting germ filled office, for me a more comfortable office (not freezing like my work office, more comfortable desk and chair), more comfortable clothes, access to full kitchen and thus better/healthier food options, ability to do chores/errands during lunch break.

The commute was there when you accepted the position. The offices are exactly as germ filled as they were before. If you have kids in school or daycare - you are FAR FAR more exposed to germs than any office. I never get sick from work. You can request the ac and chair be corrected. Every single office is "dress for your day" now. Casual unless fancy customers are in. We have a full kitchen (3 in fact) where I put all my lunch items. You can do chores and run errands during your office lunch break. Face it - you want to get a 40hr week paycheck for 15 hour work. You want to wear sweats and pj bottoms. You want to play with your kids when they get home. You want to take calls from dance practice. We get it. Admit it.

Really, stop, you don't know everyone's situation and what you think you know about me is not true. Even prior to the pandemic I would work from home on busy/tight deadline days because I got more done. We do billable hours, I need to track every hour I do, so no I cannot get away with a 15 hour work week. Good for you that you have a full kitchen in your office. We do not and I have never worked in a place that did. My office is an hour away from home, there are no errands I can do during lunch. Just because you can't work from home without jerking around doesn't mean others can't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have been back 4 days for the last year and a half but we were told it’s now 5 days. I am exhausted. Am I crazy to use this as a reason to find a new job? This is worth so much

What exactly is so exhausting? showering daily? getting dressed? commute? the commute was ok when you took the job. How is its just soooo exhausting now?

+1

[Anonymous]

No, it's not crazy. I know many people who left hybrid work situation to take a full-time telework job. Do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

Speak for yourself. On days when I'm really busy and/or have a tight deadline I get all done by staying home. Save two hours commuting and the endless interruptions in the office. I've been mostly doing my required two days a week and I put fewer hours in bc of the commute time and get less done because everyone is constantly stopping by my office to chat.

I call BS

Whatever. My pay has gone up 60% since the start of the pandemic. Have been doing great managing productivity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Employers have become more reasonable as they've recognized that telework provides huge benefits to employees at minimal or no cost to employers. It's a great retention tool.

^^^ Fixed that for you.

what are the benefits to employees? Commute is the only thing I can think of

Commute is huge. But also not being in a distracting germ filled office, for me a more comfortable office (not freezing like my work office, more comfortable desk and chair), more comfortable clothes, access to full kitchen and thus better/healthier food options, ability to do chores/errands during lunch break.

The commute was there when you accepted the position. The offices are exactly as germ filled as they were before. If you have kids in school or daycare - you are FAR FAR more exposed to germs than any office. I never get sick from work. You can request the ac and chair be corrected. Every single office is "dress for your day" now. Casual unless fancy customers are in. We have a full kitchen (3 in fact) where I put all my lunch items. You can do chores and run errands during your office lunch break. Face it - you want to get a 40hr week paycheck for 15 hour work. You want to wear sweats and pj bottoms. You want to play with your kids when they get home. You want to take calls from dance practice. We get it. Admit it.

Sounds like you're just admitting you're incapable of getting anything done without having a boss looking over your shoulder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Employers have become more reasonable as they've recognized that telework provides huge benefits to employees at minimal or no cost to employers. It's a great retention tool.

^^^ Fixed that for you.

what are the benefits to employees? Commute is the only thing I can think of

Commute is huge. But also not being in a distracting germ filled office, for me a more comfortable office (not freezing like my work office, more comfortable desk and chair), more comfortable clothes, access to full kitchen and thus better/healthier food options, ability to do chores/errands during lunch break.

The commute was there when you accepted the position. The offices are exactly as germ filled as they were before. If you have kids in school or daycare - you are FAR FAR more exposed to germs than any office. I never get sick from work. You can request the ac and chair be corrected. Every single office is "dress for your day" now. Casual unless fancy customers are in. We have a full kitchen (3 in fact) where I put all my lunch items. You can do chores and run errands during your office lunch break. Face it - you want to get a 40hr week paycheck for 15 hour work. You want to wear sweats and pj bottoms. You want to play with your kids when they get home. You want to take calls from dance practice. We get it. Admit it.

Sounds like you're just admitting you're incapable of getting anything done without having a boss looking over your shoulder.

+1
A lot of projecting here from the loafers. I manage remotely and can easily tell who is productive. I don't care wth they do I don't care if they are doing every call from disney--they freakin produce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

Speak for yourself. On days when I'm really busy and/or have a tight deadline I get all done by staying home. Save two hours commuting and the endless interruptions in the office. I've been mostly doing my required two days a week and I put fewer hours in bc of the commute time and get less done because everyone is constantly stopping by my office to chat.

I call BS

Whatever. My pay has gone up 60% since the start of the pandemic. Have been doing great managing productivity.

Oh sure it has.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have gotten so soft. You don’t like it, get a new job!

Is it that? Or do now they realize commuting is a pain in the neck not necessary?

You know you aren't working the whole schedule when you are at home. With our without a commute - you are not putting in the same amount of effort.

Get a new job now or get fired eventually.

Speak for yourself. On days when I'm really busy and/or have a tight deadline I get all done by staying home. Save two hours commuting and the endless interruptions in the office. I've been mostly doing my required two days a week and I put fewer hours in bc of the commute time and get less done because everyone is constantly stopping by my office to chat.

I call BS

Whatever. My pay has gone up 60% since the start of the pandemic. Have been doing great managing productivity.

Are you in sales?
Did you change jobs?
You boss just strolled up to you and said - wow love what you've done here - heres a butt ton more money?
Nope
Nope
Nope