Talking about Santa

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

DP. Santa isn’t religious. He can go to any house he wants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

DP. Santa isn’t religious. He can go to any house he wants.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

Please cite the part of the Bible that talks about Santa.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the taunting occurs around Easter historically.

Christian children taunt other children at Easter? No, kids eat chocolate bunnies and hunt for colorful easter eggs with candy or small toys inside. Never in my life have I heard children taunting other children at Easter time.

There are some very weird people posting here, making odd and false accusations. It’s disturbing.

There definitely has been, probably more recently than you think, taunting of non-Christian kids around Easter. Specifically, Jewish ones, who were historically blamed for killing Christ. If you go back in history -- and again, not as far back as we all might like to think -- it went far beyond taunting to actual violence.

No one here is suggesting that this sort of thing still goes on, to be clear. But it's also a little naive to pretend it has never happened.

DP. I agree, this used to happen. Nobody said it didn’t. But show us an example of this happening today.

I specifically said no one was suggesting it was still happening today. And the post I replied to said this:

"Christian children taunt other children at Easter? No, kids eat chocolate bunnies and hunt for colorful easter eggs with candy or small toys inside. Never in my life have I heard children taunting other children at Easter time.

There are some very weird people posting here, making odd and false accusations. It’s disturbing."

Which is basically someone saying it didn't happen.

This is a thread about Santa.

Great! I was replying to a PP who was talking about the Easter bunny.

You really take the cake. She mentioned bunnies in passing in response to you bringing up Easter.

Sorry, no, multiple other people brought up Easter well before I replied to her, I never mentioned it until after the post about bunnies and eggs.

Are you really going to make someone do this? You brought Easter up out of nowhere at 20:43 with this post: "Most of the taunting occurs around Easter historically."

That wasn't me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

Please cite the part of the Bible that talks about Santa.

There is no part of the Bible that talks about Santa, correct. I don't see how that conflicts with my statement that he has nothing to do with Judaism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the taunting occurs around Easter historically.

Christian children taunt other children at Easter? No, kids eat chocolate bunnies and hunt for colorful easter eggs with candy or small toys inside. Never in my life have I heard children taunting other children at Easter time.

There are some very weird people posting here, making odd and false accusations. It’s disturbing.

There definitely has been, probably more recently than you think, taunting of non-Christian kids around Easter. Specifically, Jewish ones, who were historically blamed for killing Christ. If you go back in history -- and again, not as far back as we all might like to think -- it went far beyond taunting to actual violence.

No one here is suggesting that this sort of thing still goes on, to be clear. But it's also a little naive to pretend it has never happened.

DP. I agree, this used to happen. Nobody said it didn’t. But show us an example of this happening today.

I specifically said no one was suggesting it was still happening today. And the post I replied to said this:

"Christian children taunt other children at Easter? No, kids eat chocolate bunnies and hunt for colorful easter eggs with candy or small toys inside. Never in my life have I heard children taunting other children at Easter time.

There are some very weird people posting here, making odd and false accusations. It’s disturbing."

Which is basically someone saying it didn't happen.

This is a thread about Santa.

Great! I was replying to a PP who was talking about the Easter bunny.

You really take the cake. She mentioned bunnies in passing in response to you bringing up Easter.

Sorry, no, multiple other people brought up Easter well before I replied to her, I never mentioned it until after the post about bunnies and eggs.

Are you really going to make someone do this? You brought Easter up out of nowhere at 20:43 with this post: "Most of the taunting occurs around Easter historically."

That wasn't me!

Replying to myself to add that my only post that dealt with Easter at all (other than the ones about that post) was the one at 22:06, before which there had already been a few others in a back and forth about Easter and taunting. I have also posted saying that I don't think any non-Christian kids get taunted around Christmas and that OP doesn't need to worry about the whole thing.

[Anonymous]

Why make such a big deal?
Every religion has some celebrations
What about the kids who get nothing at Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, don’t get to celebrate Eid?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

DP. Santa isn’t religious. He can go to any house he wants.

Sure, he can, since he's totally imaginary and he does whatever parents tell their kids he does. I'm just curious why other Jews engage with him. To me, he seems inextricably linked with a very specific Christian holiday, even if it's also taken on lots of secular trappings over the years, so we don't do Santa in my household and I basically profess ignorance about all things Santa-related so as not to get into discussions with my kids about whether Santa is real or whatever, since I don't think they need to be telling their friends he's not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

Please cite the part of the Bible that talks about Santa.

There is no part of the Bible that talks about Santa, correct. I don't see how that conflicts with my statement that he has nothing to do with Judaism.

Correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why make such a big deal?
Every religion has some celebrations
What about the kids who get nothing at Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, don’t get to celebrate Eid?

Hanukkah, Kwanzaa and Eid aren't in everybody's faces for months.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Santa doesnt bring presents to our family. As we are jewish.

I am Jewish but Santa always brought me presents. Santa has no religious significance whatsoever and my family did not want us kids to feel left out.

Why couldn't your parents just give you presents at Hanukah? Did you actually believe in Santa?

This. So weird when Jews participate in the lie of Santa Claus. I got 8 nights of presents at Hanukah; a lot of my Christian friends were envious of that! But it would have been strange if they started receiving Hanukah gifts from their parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

DP. Santa isn’t religious. He can go to any house he wants.

Well...Santa is a version of St. Nicholas, a character originating in Western Christian culture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

DP. Santa isn’t religious. He can go to any house he wants.

Well...Santa is a version of St. Nicholas, a character originating in Western Christian culture.

I guess he is a fictional character with supernatural powers. Definitely some parallels there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're Jewish and Santa comes to our house every year. Santa is not really a Christian figure, just one appropriated by Christianity a long time ago, so we don't see any relationship between Santa and other religions. I taught my child from an early age not to taunt other kids and to remember that not everyone celebrates holidays so it's best not to talk a lot about it at school.

It concerns me that OP thinks Santa is only for Christians, and makes sense that her kid might taunt other kids.

Out of curiosity: Why does Santa come to your Jewish house? He may not have anything to do with Christianity in your mind, but he very clearly also has nothing to do with Judaism.

DP. Santa isn’t religious. He can go to any house he wants.

Well...Santa is a version of St. Nicholas, a character originating in Western Christian culture.

I guess he is a fictional character with supernatural powers. Definitely some parallels there.

St. Nicholas was a real person, but that was centuries ago and he never rode around on reindeer and ate your milk and cookies on Christmas Eve.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why make such a big deal?
Every religion has some celebrations
What about the kids who get nothing at Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, don’t get to celebrate Eid?

Hanukkah, Kwanzaa and Eid aren't in everybody's faces for months.

How so?
Stores celebrate anything, just to make money, that is a retail thing
Tell me more?
I do not shop often so am not that familiar