Dr. X may not really have a doctorate?

[FCPSAlumnowMom]

Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....

Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....

Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!

So you’re just a narcissist.

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

Sounds like you had ample opportunity to ask her

Right. Lots of time. But as I said before, she has often not been completely truthful about things that she said or did in the classroom so why would I have believed what she said anyway? As I said before, I asked her AVP who didn't know and then I asked the new AVP and she said she couldn't tell me either b/c hiring is done by the county and they don't know where their teachers' degrees are from.

Again, as I said before, when they had no information to share, I let it go because that seemed to be the end of the line. Until the DC Urban Mom post about the VADOE website. And once I looked there, I saw there was no reported doctorate and that she had renewed her licenses just a few months before.

But thanks to all of the support from this board, I did reach out to her directly. Only, at this point, as so many have pointed out, I really didn't need to ASK where her PhD in Educational studies was from and I didn't need to ask if she even had one because my kids aren't there any more and it really doesn't impact my kids anymore. My email was to share the information that her doctorate wasn't showing on the VADOE website. I didn't copy the administration or anyone else. I wasn't trying to out her or ask for anyone else to look into it. It was jsut to her.

I don't know why the VADOE maintains this website. I don't know who they think is looking at it. I don't know, besides me (and a couple of posters on this thread who have said they have now looked), who is looking.
But I do think Dr. X should know that whomever does go looking, if she's never checked before, what they are going to see (or in this case, not see).

“I do t believe anyThing she says. So, I emailed and asked where he PhD is from”.

Wut???

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....

Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!

I’m going to make Jeff’s most active list!!! I’m the most famous crazy person on DCUM! I feel better about myself already!

OP— take this thread to your therapist. If she doesn’t suggest a higher level of care, first her and get someone who deals in whatever personality disorder you have.

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

Sounds like you had ample opportunity to ask her

Right. Lots of time. But as I said before, she has often not been completely truthful about things that she said or did in the classroom so why would I have believed what she said anyway? As I said before, I asked her AVP who didn't know and then I asked the new AVP and she said she couldn't tell me either b/c hiring is done by the county and they don't know where their teachers' degrees are from.

Again, as I said before, when they had no information to share, I let it go because that seemed to be the end of the line. Until the DC Urban Mom post about the VADOE website. And once I looked there, I saw there was no reported doctorate and that she had renewed her licenses just a few months before.

But thanks to all of the support from this board, I did reach out to her directly. Only, at this point, as so many have pointed out, I really didn't need to ASK where her PhD in Educational studies was from and I didn't need to ask if she even had one because my kids aren't there any more and it really doesn't impact my kids anymore. My email was to share the information that her doctorate wasn't showing on the VADOE website. I didn't copy the administration or anyone else. I wasn't trying to out her or ask for anyone else to look into it. It was jsut to her.

I don't know why the VADOE maintains this website. I don't know who they think is looking at it. I don't know, besides me (and a couple of posters on this thread who have said they have now looked), who is looking.
But I do think Dr. X should know that whomever does go looking, if she's never checked before, what they are going to see (or in this case, not see).

No, this is not why you emailed her. You weren’t trying to be friendly and letting her know of a mistake. You want to let her know you know (believe) she’s lying and you want her to correct the lie. Don’t say it any other way. (And you didn’t copy anyone bc you’ve already told two AVP and both ignored your stated concerns.)

[FCPSAlumnowMom]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

Sounds like you had ample opportunity to ask her

Right. Lots of time. But as I said before, she has often not been completely truthful about things that she said or did in the classroom so why would I have believed what she said anyway? As I said before, I asked her AVP who didn't know and then I asked the new AVP and she said she couldn't tell me either b/c hiring is done by the county and they don't know where their teachers' degrees are from.

Again, as I said before, when they had no information to share, I let it go because that seemed to be the end of the line. Until the DC Urban Mom post about the VADOE website. And once I looked there, I saw there was no reported doctorate and that she had renewed her licenses just a few months before.

But thanks to all of the support from this board, I did reach out to her directly. Only, at this point, as so many have pointed out, I really didn't need to ASK where her PhD in Educational studies was from and I didn't need to ask if she even had one because my kids aren't there any more and it really doesn't impact my kids anymore. My email was to share the information that her doctorate wasn't showing on the VADOE website. I didn't copy the administration or anyone else. I wasn't trying to out her or ask for anyone else to look into it. It was jsut to her.

I don't know why the VADOE maintains this website. I don't know who they think is looking at it. I don't know, besides me (and a couple of posters on this thread who have said they have now looked), who is looking.
But I do think Dr. X should know that whomever does go looking, if she's never checked before, what they are going to see (or in this case, not see).

“I do t believe anyThing she says. So, I emailed and asked where he PhD is from”.

Wut???

Yeah, wut?

No.. I don't believe much of what she has ever said so I did NOT ask her where her PhD is from. Sorry if I was unclear! I did post my email to her clarity - you actually have it in your post reply.

[FCPSAlumnowMom]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....

Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!

I’m going to make Jeff’s most active list!!! I’m the most famous crazy person on DCUM! I feel better about myself already!

OP— take this thread to your therapist. If she doesn’t suggest a higher level of care, first her and get someone who deals in whatever personality disorder you have.

Well, you know what they say -- "Don't engage with crazy online or in real life. Before you know it, you will end up with crazy all over you too!"

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....

Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!

I’m going to make Jeff’s most active list!!! I’m the most famous crazy person on DCUM! I feel better about myself already!

OP— take this thread to your therapist. If she doesn’t suggest a higher level of care, first her and get someone who deals in whatever personality disorder you have.

Well, you know what they say -- "Don't engage with crazy online or in real life. Before you know it, you will end up with crazy all over you too!"

Yeah— but you’re fun crazy. And I’m recovering from surgery and bored. And when I get bored with you (almost there, TBH. You’re such a classic Karen narcissist), I can make you go away. Win-win.

[FCPSAlumnowMom]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....

Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!

I’m going to make Jeff’s most active list!!! I’m the most famous crazy person on DCUM! I feel better about myself already!

OP— take this thread to your therapist. If she doesn’t suggest a higher level of care, first her and get someone who deals in whatever personality disorder you have.

Well, you know what they say -- "Don't engage with crazy online or in real life. Before you know it, you will end up with crazy all over you too!"

Yeah— but you’re fun crazy. And I’m recovering from surgery and bored. And when I get bored with you (almost there, TBH. You’re such a classic Karen narcissist), I can make you go away. Win-win.

Oh! I hope your recovery is quick and easy! I'm sure people will stop poking at me soon enough and this thread will be over... hopefully you get enough before you get too bored!

[Anonymous]

While we're at it, why is Charles Xavier called Professor X? Isn't his school for gifted youngsters a secondary school?

Going by Mr X or even Dr X would make sense, but Professor seems kind of pretentious for a headmaster, even in Westchester.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While we're at it, why is Charles Xavier called Professor X? Isn't his school for gifted youngsters a secondary school?

Going by Mr X or even Dr X would make sense, but Professor seems kind of pretentious for a headmaster, even in Westchester.

Professor X has a PhD and could be called Dr. X, but apparently Dr. X doesn't have a PhD and should be called Professor X.

[FCPSAlumnowMom]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While we're at it, why is Charles Xavier called Professor X? Isn't his school for gifted youngsters a secondary school?

Going by Mr X or even Dr X would make sense, but Professor seems kind of pretentious for a headmaster, even in Westchester.

Professor X has a PhD and could be called Dr. X, but apparently Dr. X doesn't have a PhD and should be called Professor X.

He went to Oxford to get this PhD -- but did he finish? Or did the whole Moira thing distract him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she's been ABD somewhere for a long time and decided to just go for it and call herself Dr.

This would be fraudulent. Being ABD is not even close to earning the actual Ph.D. I say this as someone who is ABD myself.

100%. Being ABD is not equivalent at all. I hope database is wrong and it wasn’t anything related to lack of integrity on the teacher’s part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

Bravo.

Agree. The email was professional. Hopefully this gives you closure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she's been ABD somewhere for a long time and decided to just go for it and call herself Dr.

This would be fraudulent. Being ABD is not even close to earning the actual Ph.D. I say this as someone who is ABD myself.

I don't think it's fraudulent to call yourself Dr. and let people assume you have a doctorate. If you submit a false credential that would be fraud.

What? “Fraudulent” means “unjustifiably claiming or being credited with particular accomplishments or qualities.“. Claiming to have a Ph.D. when you do not have a Ph.D. is fraudulent.

Agree. Terrible to misrepresent if you don’t in fact have Ph.D.