Dr. X may not really have a doctorate?

[FCPSAlumnowMom]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

This keeps getting weirder and weirder.

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

When teachers say that one of the reasons for leaving the profession is parents, this is directly the type of stuff they’re referring to. OP, you have really got to learn to relax.

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

Sounds like you had ample opportunity to ask her

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she's been ABD somewhere for a long time and decided to just go for it and call herself Dr.

This would be fraudulent. Being ABD is not even close to earning the actual Ph.D. I say this as someone who is ABD myself.

I don't think it's fraudulent to call yourself Dr. and let people assume you have a doctorate. If you submit a false credential that would be fraud.

What? “Fraudulent” means “unjustifiably claiming or being credited with particular accomplishments or qualities.“. Claiming to have a Ph.D. when you do not have a Ph.D. is fraudulent.

I could make my students call me Mrs even though I'm not married. Like Dr. X I would not be lying about a condition of my employment and I would not benefit financially, so it would be weird but who exactly am i defrauding?

False equivalents -- your marital status doesn't necessarily prepare you for teaching a subject matter, managing a classroom, etc -- a degree in something like the "PhD in Education studies" in theory does.

But it doesn't appear that she lied about her credentials in order to receive a professional benefit (her teaching position or financial consideration). She's just asking people to use an inaccurate honorific.

That by the way, we (DCUM) have no proof of being inaccurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she's been ABD somewhere for a long time and decided to just go for it and call herself Dr.

I have a Ph.D. (would not call myself Dr., but that's a different issue). In academia, it wouldn't be acceptable to call oneself Dr. without completing the degree, but I feel like it's not uncommon for ABDs outside of academia to use Dr. I would say in her defense that using a title is not the same as lying about your credentials on your employment paperwork.

Really? I have a PhD and work outside of academia (but at a research nonprofit, so with other PhDs), and I have never heard of a situation where it would be acceptable for someone who was ABD to call themselves Dr. Had no idea that was a thing.

[Anonymous]

As a teacher, this would absolutely freak me out to feel that someone was fixated on me this way. The behavior of the parent is far more concerning to me than the issue of the title. I have a doctorate but I don't have anyone refer to me as Dr. I know that's a different thing though.

Parent, it's no one else's job to do something to make you feel at peace with this. It's yours. I can't believe your therapist advised you to notify others about this rather than cope with your feelings yourself. If anything, write a letter that's not intended to be sent. If the teacher really friended you, etc, on social media and you interact at other times, then just casually asking wouldn't be that hard.

I don't buy parts of this story

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

This keeps getting weirder and weirder.

+1. You send THAT email to your friend and neighbor. THAT is the best course of action you could find. (Backs away slowly).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:didn't you post about this before?

Totally. I think op might be stalking this person

YES! Im absolutely “stalking” her — as in looking into her background to understand her education and experience by which she was teaching my kids.

For example- from her LinkedIn profile I realized she has way fewer years of experience teaching than I would’ve thought. And 1 year of her six or so was cut short with Covid and the next was completely virtual. So instead of having expectations of classroom management that I might have with a more experienced teacher, I knew I should perhaps cut some slack.[i][u] She’s all about being at the fun teacher. Being one of the girls.

Or, like how on her public Facebook profile, she lists her FCPS job description as “Protector of little people in purgatory.”
That certainly can provide insight in terms of how she views herself, her students, and her employer.

Do you not see the way you portray yourself at all? Now you’re critiquing her putting down 6 years (or so) of teaching bc 1 year was cut short because of COVID and the next year was virtual. I mean…she did teach those two years, right?

And my God…THIS is how you are cutting her some slack? Has anyone ever told you that you hold grudges, have vendettas, are unable to let small things go, focus on minutiae, always have to be right…and I’m being serious - ever?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

And OP is easy to track given they’re posting under a user name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

And OP is easy to track given they’re posting under a user name.

+1. Does AlumNow!om mean OP is an alum?. Or that her kids are now Alums and THIS is how she spends her spare time? Because if it’s the later OP is bat sh*t craY cray.

[FCPSAlumnowMom]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
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Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
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PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

And OP is easy to track given they’re posting under a user name.

+1. Does AlumNow!om mean OP is an alum?. Or that her kids are now Alums and THIS is how she spends her spare time? Because if it’s the later OP is bat sh*t craY cray.

The way you've worded this, not sure if you wanted me to answer or if you are looking for group think again since you aren't asking me directly.

I'm a FCPS alum (as in, I went to FCPS schools myself) and now I'm a Mom (to kids that are in FCPS).

And yes -- super easy to track - that's why I used a log in - but of course Jeff can track us all thru our IP addresses etc anyway.

[FCPSAlumnowMom]

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

Sounds like you had ample opportunity to ask her

Right. Lots of time. But as I said before, she has often not been completely truthful about things that she said or did in the classroom so why would I have believed what she said anyway? As I said before, I asked her AVP who didn't know and then I asked the new AVP and she said she couldn't tell me either b/c hiring is done by the county and they don't know where their teachers' degrees are from.

Again, as I said before, when they had no information to share, I let it go because that seemed to be the end of the line. Until the DC Urban Mom post about the VADOE website. And once I looked there, I saw there was no reported doctorate and that she had renewed her licenses just a few months before.

But thanks to all of the support from this board, I did reach out to her directly. Only, at this point, as so many have pointed out, I really didn't need to ASK where her PhD in Educational studies was from and I didn't need to ask if she even had one because my kids aren't there any more and it really doesn't impact my kids anymore. My email was to share the information that her doctorate wasn't showing on the VADOE website. I didn't copy the administration or anyone else. I wasn't trying to out her or ask for anyone else to look into it. It was jsut to her.

I don't know why the VADOE maintains this website. I don't know who they think is looking at it. I don't know, besides me (and a couple of posters on this thread who have said they have now looked), who is looking.
But I do think Dr. X should know that whomever does go looking, if she's never checked before, what they are going to see (or in this case, not see).

[Anonymous]

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?

I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.

So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.

Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

Sounds like you had ample opportunity to ask her

Right. Lots of time. But as I said before, she has often not been completely truthful about things that she said or did in the classroom so why would I have believed what she said anyway? As I said before, I asked her AVP who didn't know and then I asked the new AVP and she said she couldn't tell me either b/c hiring is done by the county and they don't know where their teachers' degrees are from.

Again, as I said before, when they had no information to share, I let it go because that seemed to be the end of the line. Until the DC Urban Mom post about the VADOE website. And once I looked there, I saw there was no reported doctorate and that she had renewed her licenses just a few months before.

But thanks to all of the support from this board, I did reach out to her directly. Only, at this point, as so many have pointed out, I really didn't need to ASK where her PhD in Educational studies was from and I didn't need to ask if she even had one because my kids aren't there any more and it really doesn't impact my kids anymore. My email was to share the information that her doctorate wasn't showing on the VADOE website. I didn't copy the administration or anyone else. I wasn't trying to out her or ask for anyone else to look into it. It was jsut to her.

I don't know why the VADOE maintains this website. I don't know who they think is looking at it. I don't know, besides me (and a couple of posters on this thread who have said they have now looked), who is looking.
But I do think Dr. X should know that whomever does go looking, if she's never checked before, what they are going to see (or in this case, not see).

You are batsh**

[Anonymous]

Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....