There are so many poorly trained dogs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen large reactive dogs on walks in my neighborhood and the owner is doing absolutely nothing to stop the behavior.

All they need to do is get the dog to sit, distract them / block their view of the passer by who they're barking at and reward them for sitting still.

We did this with our dog and it worked. And he was huge and strong. It's like these owners don't even know the word "no" and aren't willing to try it.

Way to generalize! Not all dogs care about food rewards or can be distracted. Just like kids, some dogs have challenging personalities. Also note this doesn’t work when two dogs passing have the same issue. So many times in our neighborhood the owner chooses this method and forces the other dog to walk by.

and yet you offer zero possible solutions, how helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen large reactive dogs on walks in my neighborhood and the owner is doing absolutely nothing to stop the behavior.

All they need to do is get the dog to sit, distract them / block their view of the passer by who they're barking at and reward them for sitting still.

We did this with our dog and it worked. And he was huge and strong. It's like these owners don't even know the word "no" and aren't willing to try it.

Way to generalize! Not all dogs care about food rewards or can be distracted. Just like kids, some dogs have challenging personalities. Also note this doesn’t work when two dogs passing have the same issue. So many times in our neighborhood the owner chooses this method and forces the other dog to walk by.

and yet you offer zero possible solutions, how helpful.

Not PP, but the solution is to walk your dog on the right side of the road. This is America, we drive on the right side of the road, standers on the Metro stand on the right side of the escalator; you should walk your dog on the right side of the road. The owner who is walking on the left should cross the street when approaching another dog unless he knows the dogs get along. Simple, and yet most people don't do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious - of all of you complaining about "poorly trained" dogs, do any of you have rescues, or do you all have bred dogs?

I have a breeder Mastiff. I’m not sure why you ask, but rescues should not be held to a lesser standard of behavior. They’re just as dangerous when reactive.

[OP]

So what are you suggesting here? Shelters should be euthanizing dogs instead of adopting them out? Shelter stays and transportation journeys are hugely stressful, traumatic events for dogs. And that’s before adding in any abuse or neglect they may have suffered previous to the shelter. They pick up a lot of bad behaviors that they need to unlearn with patient, loving adopters.

But you’d, what, have them all killed instead?

Yes, some dogs should be put down instead of being adopted out. When did this become controversial? No kill shelters were a lovely, simplistic idea back we all thought that it was an elderly but mild dog or someone’s lost golden retriever were getting put down. But now shelters are keeping problematic dogs for months and months, even ones that have gotten adopted and have been returned for aggression or biting. Why do we need to pretend that all dogs are able to be rehabbed? Why do shelters continue to put families at risk by lying? Why do some people make so many excuses?

Especially since it seems like a lot of “rescues” are ReScUeS. Some people like to imagine they know everything about dogs and that dogs are people. (Not OP, lest she get blamed for my comments).

^^THIS. You nailed it.

This thread has been enlightening about how and why people excuse bad behavior from rescues. Also, I am truly baffled by the mentality that euthanasia is a bad thing for problematic dogs. Frankly, it needs to happen more.


[OP]

Are you be sarcastic? and what is a ReScUe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen large reactive dogs on walks in my neighborhood and the owner is doing absolutely nothing to stop the behavior.

All they need to do is get the dog to sit, distract them / block their view of the passer by who they're barking at and reward them for sitting still.

We did this with our dog and it worked. And he was huge and strong. It's like these owners don't even know the word "no" and aren't willing to try it.

Way to generalize! Not all dogs care about food rewards or can be distracted. Just like kids, some dogs have challenging personalities. Also note this doesn’t work when two dogs passing have the same issue. So many times in our neighborhood the owner chooses this method and forces the other dog to walk by.

Most people do this already. Get out of the house more.


and yet you offer zero possible solutions, how helpful.

Not PP, but the solution is to walk your dog on the right side of the road. This is America, we drive on the right side of the road, standers on the Metro stand on the right side of the escalator; you should walk your dog on the right side of the road. The owner who is walking on the left should cross the street when approaching another dog unless he knows the dogs get along. Simple, and yet most people don't do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen large reactive dogs on walks in my neighborhood and the owner is doing absolutely nothing to stop the behavior.

All they need to do is get the dog to sit, distract them / block their view of the passer by who they're barking at and reward them for sitting still.

We did this with our dog and it worked. And he was huge and strong. It's like these owners don't even know the word "no" and aren't willing to try it.

Way to generalize! Not all dogs care about food rewards or can be distracted. Just like kids, some dogs have challenging personalities. Also note this doesn’t work when two dogs passing have the same issue. So many times in our neighborhood the owner chooses this method and forces the other dog to walk by.

Most people do this already. Get out of the house more.


and yet you offer zero possible solutions, how helpful.

Not PP, but the solution is to walk your dog on the right side of the road. This is America, we drive on the right side of the road, standers on the Metro stand on the right side of the escalator; you should walk your dog on the right side of the road. The owner who is walking on the left should cross the street when approaching another dog unless he knows the dogs get along. Simple, and yet most people don't do it.

Most people are doing this. This is not a solution, this is normal practice. Also you get on every single dog thread and talk about walking in the right IN AMERICA like you're speaking to a bunch of ignorant people. You're offensive and limited. I doubt you even have a dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen large reactive dogs on walks in my neighborhood and the owner is doing absolutely nothing to stop the behavior.

All they need to do is get the dog to sit, distract them / block their view of the passer by who they're barking at and reward them for sitting still.

We did this with our dog and it worked. And he was huge and strong. It's like these owners don't even know the word "no" and aren't willing to try it.

Way to generalize! Not all dogs care about food rewards or can be distracted. Just like kids, some dogs have challenging personalities. Also note this doesn’t work when two dogs passing have the same issue. So many times in our neighborhood the owner chooses this method and forces the other dog to walk by.

and yet you offer zero possible solutions, how helpful.

Not PP, but the solution is to walk your dog on the right side of the road. This is America, we drive on the right side of the road, standers on the Metro stand on the right side of the escalator; you should walk your dog on the right side of the road. The owner who is walking on the left should cross the street when approaching another dog unless he knows the dogs get along. Simple, and yet most people don't do it.

Important safety tip: Always walk against traffic, which is to say on the left side of the road.

If you're talking about sidewalks, those are not roads. You should be able to figure out which side of the sidewalk is not occupied and walk there, assuming this we're talking about a residential area with narrow sidewalks that only hold two pedestrians (the dog goes on the grass)

[Anonymous]

I have two dogs that are not rescues or aggressive breeds but they are high strung. The oldest is trained to sit and not be leash reactive now but it took a while to train him. We now have a new puppy under a year who is in the training process and if that dog freaks out because another dog is walking by - the older dog sometimes joins in - i keep them on a short leash and move to the edge of the sidewalk as far as I can go w/out going in the road but need help from the other dog owner as well to walk past us on the other side of the sidewalk. It's not possible to train the dogs to act right w/out going through a process. They don't bark or lunge at people, but if the owner is trying to train the dogs and the dogs are not a danger it's just part of life. The irony is after they flip out they do want to play but by then the other dog has usually decided it doesn't want to be near such crazy creatures

[Anonymous]

Ahh we’ve moved from mom shaming to dog shaming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious - of all of you complaining about "poorly trained" dogs, do any of you have rescues, or do you all have bred dogs?

I have a breeder Mastiff. I’m not sure why you ask, but rescues should not be held to a lesser standard of behavior. They’re just as dangerous when reactive.

[OP]

I think you know why I ask. There are people who rescue dogs, and there are people who buy dogs. People who buy dogs want a warm-blooded stuffed animal and think that "all dogs" should be similarly docile. That's just not reality.

Yes all people who buy dogs want a stuffed animal. You are really ignorant.
I’m so tired of the “adopt don’t shop” cult. It’s because of people like you that our neighborhoods are full of poorly trained, often aggressive rescues. You “dog moms” make excuses for them and pay yourselves on the back for being heroes. Animals are chattel. They aren’t people. Lots of them were raised in horrible situations, cannot be rehabilitated, and need to be euthanized, not adopted.

If you can’t control your dog and train it to respond to commands and not bark constantly, then you are NOT a good neighbor or dog owner. I don’t give a crap how many “rescues” you can brag about - you are making your neighborhood worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious - of all of you complaining about "poorly trained" dogs, do any of you have rescues, or do you all have bred dogs?

I have a breeder Mastiff. I’m not sure why you ask, but rescues should not be held to a lesser standard of behavior. They’re just as dangerous when reactive.

[OP]

I think you know why I ask. There are people who rescue dogs, and there are people who buy dogs. People who buy dogs want a warm-blooded stuffed animal and think that "all dogs" should be similarly docile. That's just not reality.

Yes all people who buy dogs want a stuffed animal. You are really ignorant.
I’m so tired of the “adopt don’t shop” cult. It’s because of people like you that our neighborhoods are full of poorly trained, often aggressive rescues. You “dog moms” make excuses for them and pay yourselves on the back for being heroes. Animals are chattel. They aren’t people. Lots of them were raised in horrible situations, cannot be rehabilitated, and need to be euthanized, not adopted.

If you can’t control your dog and train it to respond to commands and not bark constantly, then you are NOT a good neighbor or dog owner. I don’t give a crap how many “rescues” you can brag about - you are making your neighborhood worse.

I could’ve written this post. I agree 1,000%….especially with the bolded.

[OP]

[Anonymous]

My favorites are the dog owners who are walking in opposite directions, and their dogs want to "say hi," and then everyone blocks the entire path or sidewalk for everyone else.

Jerk dog owners, PULL OVER if you're going to stop. Get off the damn path

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious - of all of you complaining about "poorly trained" dogs, do any of you have rescues, or do you all have bred dogs?

I have a breeder Mastiff. I’m not sure why you ask, but rescues should not be held to a lesser standard of behavior. They’re just as dangerous when reactive.

[OP]

I think you know why I ask. There are people who rescue dogs, and there are people who buy dogs. People who buy dogs want a warm-blooded stuffed animal and think that "all dogs" should be similarly docile. That's just not reality.

Yes all people who buy dogs want a stuffed animal. You are really ignorant.
I’m so tired of the “adopt don’t shop” cult. It’s because of people like you that our neighborhoods are full of poorly trained, often aggressive rescues. You “dog moms” make excuses for them and pay yourselves on the back for being heroes. Animals are chattel. They aren’t people. Lots of them were raised in horrible situations, cannot be rehabilitated, and need to be euthanized, not adopted.

If you can’t control your dog and train it to respond to commands and not bark constantly, then you are NOT a good neighbor or dog owner. I don’t give a crap how many “rescues” you can brag about - you are making your neighborhood worse.

I could’ve written this post. I agree 1,000%….especially with the bolded.

[OP]

NP. I'll sit at your table. Owner of 2 large dogs here who are so well behaved people are sometimes hesitant to pet because they think they're service dogs working. Also told I'm "lucky" a lot. There may be a touch of luck but it's mostly a combo of generations of breeding for temperament and LOTS of training.

[Anonymous]

I have great control of my dog. SHe barks at other dogs sometimes. Guess what - dogs bark! that is one of the ways they communicate.

[Anonymous]

Imagine if you replaced the word dog with the word kid, this post would be more nauseating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if you replaced the word dog with the word kid, this post would be more nauseating.

Totally agree. But we aren’t talking about humans. Dogs < Humans.