Jon Hamm is considering marrying and having children

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Anonymous wrote:Lawyer here.

You are pulling all these "facts" from the lawsuit itself, filed by the plaintiff, which never went to court. Assault charges were filed but then dropped so any allegations of assault are unsubstantiated. He was convicted of hazing meaning he participated in in hazing, which sucks. But the whole point of fraternity hazing (which is awful) is that it is institutionalized abuse. You take insecure college kids who are looking for somewhere to belong, you abuse them, and then you tell them they now get to abuse other people who want admission to their club. Hazing is terrible but it is on the organization.

Keep in mind if Hamm joined that fraternity, he must have gone through the same hazing rituals. Meaning the stuff he participated in with the plaintiff in that suit likely happened to him, too. And then recall this was a guy who'd lost both his parents, had been neglected growing up... it's not an excuse for committing acts of violence against something but basically he joined a cult and bad things were done to him and he did bad things to others. And after that happened there's not a single report of Hamm being violent or hurtful. He spend nearly 20 years in a relationship with a woman who still speaks of him affectionately. He is well liked by friends and castmates, including the children he worked with on Mad Men.

There's nothing to indicate that he for sure did the things he is accused of having done, only in participating in hazing rituals in this messed up fraternity he joined. It's really good the hazing came to light and the fraternity was shut down. I feel awful for what happened to the plaintiff in that case. But you and I don't actually know exactly what transpired or what Hamm's role was, and all indications are that he never did anything even resembling those allegations ever again. Also, he was held accountable for the hazing! And he didn't fight the assault charges, they were dropped.

I am really big on accountability but to me it sounds like Hamm was accountable for his actions, and that the real culprit there was the fraternity that was rightfully closed. It's weird to keep holding this against Hamm simply because he's the one person involved in that incident who you know later became rich and famous.

Good post!

Actually this is a terrible post

No it is not. Very coincidentally- like this lawyer poster, I am a rape survivor as well. You want to condemn Hamm without knowing the facts.

[Anonymous]

He’ll look like William Shatner soon enough. He is a good looking man, but he he gives off a ball scratcher vibe.

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Anonymous wrote:with his 34 year old gf
https://pagesix.com/2022/09/20/jon-hamm-says-he-may-marry-girlfriend-anna-osceola/

What about his long suffering long term ex gf who really wanted children?

She chose to date an alcoholic. She shouldn’t exactly be shocked that it didn’t work out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’ll look like William Shatner soon enough. He is a good looking man, but he he gives off a ball scratcher vibe.

Just stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:with his 34 year old gf
https://pagesix.com/2022/09/20/jon-hamm-says-he-may-marry-girlfriend-anna-osceola/

What about his long suffering long term ex gf who really wanted children?

She chose to date an alcoholic. She shouldn’t exactly be shocked that it didn’t work out.

She didn’t actually want children and they were together for 18 years, so I think they’re probably OK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He looks so terrible in those Progressive commercials. Like Don Draper after a bike pump was used on his face.

I actually think that the commercials are funny and cute.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was his ex, Jennifer Westfeldt, who didn't want kids. He did: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-hamm-jennifer-westfeldt-why-they-split-201599/

Westfeldt likes her life as a working actor and director, she's passionate about her artistic projects, and she has no particular desire to have children. I think people sometimes get this wrong because she made a movie with Adam Scott (Friends with Kids) where she played a woman who wants kids enough that she has a baby with her best friend. But it was fiction, and a role. She doesn't want kids.

So Hamm saying he wants kids with his younger girlfriend now is in keeping with what he said his priorities were when he and Westfeldt split. You'll notice Westfeldt is still happily childless even though she could have adopted or done IVF with a sperm donor since their split. She didn't. She doesn't want kids.

I do hope Hamm deals with his drinking problem and any other issues before he has children with anyone. I have a soft spot for him because I think his drinking issues are largely driven by the way he went from virtual unknown actor nearing middle age to super hot leading man, while starring on an AMC television show. It's an unusual path and his work and income has never quite matched up with his public perception as a Clooney-esque figure. I think he's struggle to adjust to fame and there is a part of him who wishes he still had Westfeldt's semi-obscurity -- she gets to just make little movies and do theater or television projects while living a largely normal life (albeit a great one). Hamm left that behind and is now too recognizable and high profile to have that. Plus their breakup meant he also lost the most stabilizing influence in his life. I'm glad he's found someone new and seems to be happy with her.

Hamm/Westfeldt have long been one of my favorite actor couples and I wish them both nothing but the best.

Well that changes the narrative quite a bit. He wants kids, she didn’t, he stayed with her for 18 years despite this and his rising stardom. If he always hopes to have kids and can now achieve that good for him

My sense is that when he was younger, earlier in their relationship, he was less interested in kids. That changed as he got older. I think they actually stayed together for quite a while after that shift happened for him because they'd been together for so long and he didn't want to leave her. He's talked in interviews about how she was his family and as someone who didn't have much family at all growing up, it wasn't something he could take lightly. I think for a time he tried to convince himself that he could be happy just the two of them.

I don't get the hate for him in this thread. He had a sad, neglectful childhood, he was a devoted boyfriend for 18 years (I don't remember any rumors of cheating on either side?), he has struggled with alcohol abuse which is not surprising given his history, and now he's in what appears to be a solid relationship with someone who seems to share his desire for children.

He seems like a good guy who struggles with inner demons. I think people have a hard time separating him from Don Draper and while they do have some things in common, they are very much not the same person. Hamm seems like someone who is very straightforward (not living some deceptive double life) and honest about what he wants and needs. That doesn't mean he's a perfect person with no weaknesses, but he's not a liar and a cheat like Draper was.

I think he gets a huge pass from people because he's Jon Hamm. If it were a random dude being posted about in the relationship forum, the woman would be to told to run away fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was his ex, Jennifer Westfeldt, who didn't want kids. He did: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-hamm-jennifer-westfeldt-why-they-split-201599/

Westfeldt likes her life as a working actor and director, she's passionate about her artistic projects, and she has no particular desire to have children. I think people sometimes get this wrong because she made a movie with Adam Scott (Friends with Kids) where she played a woman who wants kids enough that she has a baby with her best friend. But it was fiction, and a role. She doesn't want kids.

So Hamm saying he wants kids with his younger girlfriend now is in keeping with what he said his priorities were when he and Westfeldt split. You'll notice Westfeldt is still happily childless even though she could have adopted or done IVF with a sperm donor since their split. She didn't. She doesn't want kids.

I do hope Hamm deals with his drinking problem and any other issues before he has children with anyone. I have a soft spot for him because I think his drinking issues are largely driven by the way he went from virtual unknown actor nearing middle age to super hot leading man, while starring on an AMC television show. It's an unusual path and his work and income has never quite matched up with his public perception as a Clooney-esque figure. I think he's struggle to adjust to fame and there is a part of him who wishes he still had Westfeldt's semi-obscurity -- she gets to just make little movies and do theater or television projects while living a largely normal life (albeit a great one). Hamm left that behind and is now too recognizable and high profile to have that. Plus their breakup meant he also lost the most stabilizing influence in his life. I'm glad he's found someone new and seems to be happy with her.

Hamm/Westfeldt have long been one of my favorite actor couples and I wish them both nothing but the best.

Well that changes the narrative quite a bit. He wants kids, she didn’t, he stayed with her for 18 years despite this and his rising stardom. If he always hopes to have kids and can now achieve that good for him

My sense is that when he was younger, earlier in their relationship, he was less interested in kids. That changed as he got older. I think they actually stayed together for quite a while after that shift happened for him because they'd been together for so long and he didn't want to leave her. He's talked in interviews about how she was his family and as someone who didn't have much family at all growing up, it wasn't something he could take lightly. I think for a time he tried to convince himself that he could be happy just the two of them.

I don't get the hate for him in this thread. He had a sad, neglectful childhood, he was a devoted boyfriend for 18 years (I don't remember any rumors of cheating on either side?), he has struggled with alcohol abuse which is not surprising given his history, and now he's in what appears to be a solid relationship with someone who seems to share his desire for children.

He seems like a good guy who struggles with inner demons. I think people have a hard time separating him from Don Draper and while they do have some things in common, they are very much not the same person. Hamm seems like someone who is very straightforward (not living some deceptive double life) and honest about what he wants and needs. That doesn't mean he's a perfect person with no weaknesses, but he's not a liar and a cheat like Draper was.

I think he gets a huge pass from people because he's Jon Hamm. If it were a random dude being posted about in the relationship forum, the woman would be to told to run away fast.

100%

[Anonymous]

Engaged. Hopefully he's maintaining his sobriety before bringing children into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:with his 34 year old gf
https://pagesix.com/2022/09/20/jon-hamm-says-he-may-marry-girlfriend-anna-osceola/

What about his long suffering long term ex gf who really wanted children?

Story as Old as Time. Ladies, pay attention.

[Anonymous]

PP here, I bet he’ll be a great Dad though. He looks very happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Engaged. Hopefully he's maintaining his sobriety before bringing children into it.

Rumor was that she enabled his partying. He's looking pretty healthy these days though, so fingers crossed. But, yeah, I feel bad for his ex.

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Anonymous wrote:Engaged. Hopefully he's maintaining his sobriety before bringing children into it.

Rumor was that she enabled his partying. He's looking pretty healthy these days though, so fingers crossed. But, yeah, I feel bad for his ex.

Why? She had him when he was at his best. He’s a bloated old man now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Engaged. Hopefully he's maintaining his sobriety before bringing children into it.

Rumor was that she enabled his partying. He's looking pretty healthy these days though, so fingers crossed. But, yeah, I feel bad for his ex.

I truly do not understand why people feel bad for Jennifer Westfeldt. I think their breakup was her idea. They were together a long time. JW did not want kids and was focused on writing and directing (and still is). I do not get a sense that she pined away for a family with Hamm and will be devastated to discover he's starting a family with someone else.

I think people like to impose a specific paradigm on this relationship that doesn't apply. If JW had wanted to have kids with someone, I think she would have. Maybe even with Hamm. She didn't. They grew apart, the still seem to care about each other.

Stop trying to turn a happy and successful woman who seems to have always done exactly what she wanted into a victim just because her life doesn't look they way you want YOUR life to look. She's not you.

[Anonymous]

I enjoy everything he has been in. Someone dug up a Wikipedia entry earlier in this thread trashing Hamm + not knowing anything about him.