Are therapists doing unmasked therapy for kids with anxiety about covid stuff yet?

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Anonymous wrote:It makes me really, really sad that special needs therapists around here are still masking themselves and their patients. I mean come on, really. This is absurd, fear-based, behavior by a medical professional.

Speaking only for myself, i’ve managed to not get Covid this entire time. I’d prefer not to get it in session, because I can’t work with any patients until we’ll again. Schedules are tight enough.

You'd be sick for one week. And you're likely going to get covid anyway. So to avoid that, you're going to significantly impair your therepeutic relationship, for what, forever? And don't claim that it doesn't. Especially if you work with kids with autism, masks absolutely interfere with emotion recognition.

Unless they aren’t, as plenty of people aren’t. But please, keep minimizing to make yourself feel better.

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Anonymous wrote:It makes me really, really sad that special needs therapists around here are still masking themselves and their patients. I mean come on, really. This is absurd, fear-based, behavior by a medical professional.

Speaking only for myself, i’ve managed to not get Covid this entire time. I’d prefer not to get it in session, because I can’t work with any patients until we’ll again. Schedules are tight enough.

You'd be sick for one week. And you're likely going to get covid anyway. So to avoid that, you're going to significantly impair your therepeutic relationship, for what, forever? And don't claim that it doesn't. Especially if you work with kids with autism, masks absolutely interfere with emotion recognition.

So when we need to postpone your next appointment for several weeks because I had to bump folks that’s nbd? Because that’s another thing that happens when I’m out a week or so.

Yes, because seeing faces is an essential part of treating kids. You being out for ONE WEEK is fine and normal. Prior to covid people got sick, took vacations, etc. All the time. Ask yourself whether child therapists in other parts of the country and world are still wearing masks, and why you don't this bears any relevance to the quality of care you are providing.

Stop repeating lies.

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Anonymous wrote:It makes me really, really sad that special needs therapists around here are still masking themselves and their patients. I mean come on, really. This is absurd, fear-based, behavior by a medical professional.

Speaking only for myself, i’ve managed to not get Covid this entire time. I’d prefer not to get it in session, because I can’t work with any patients until we’ll again. Schedules are tight enough.

You'd be sick for one week. And you're likely going to get covid anyway. So to avoid that, you're going to significantly impair your therepeutic relationship, for what, forever? And don't claim that it doesn't. Especially if you work with kids with autism, masks absolutely interfere with emotion recognition.

So when we need to postpone your next appointment for several weeks because I had to bump folks that’s nbd? Because that’s another thing that happens when I’m out a week or so.

Yes, because seeing faces is an essential part of treating kids. You being out for ONE WEEK is fine and normal. Prior to covid people got sick, took vacations, etc. All the time. Ask yourself whether child therapists in other parts of the country and world are still wearing masks, and why you don't this bears any relevance to the quality of care you are providing.

We are not in Europe and nobody cares if you think therapists shouldn’t wear masks. Get so very much over yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:It makes me really, really sad that special needs therapists around here are still masking themselves and their patients. I mean come on, really. This is absurd, fear-based, behavior by a medical professional.

Speaking only for myself, i’ve managed to not get Covid this entire time. I’d prefer not to get it in session, because I can’t work with any patients until we’ll again. Schedules are tight enough.

You'd be sick for one week. And you're likely going to get covid anyway. So to avoid that, you're going to significantly impair your therepeutic relationship, for what, forever? And don't claim that it doesn't. Especially if you work with kids with autism, masks absolutely interfere with emotion recognition.

Wow.

Wow, what? The fact that you say "Wow" as if what I wrote was completely shocking just shows how very, very out of touch and bubbled you are. You realize that kids and teachers *never masked* in Europe? Do you think child therapists everywhere in the US are masking? What's strange and bizarre is making kids with autism, speech delays, hearing impairments, or any other kind of mental health issue, do therapy with their faces & therapists faces covered.

JFC. WE ARE NOT IN EUROPE.

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Anonymous wrote:How many of your anxious kids are traumatized and refuse to get in cars because they're required to wear seat belts or sit in car seats?

See how this works?

Seat belts don’t inhibit children with speech issues from learning to talk. Seat belts aren’t used as fear porn or to silence and create control. See how this works.

You've just given your bias away. Fear porn? Create control? Yea, you're unhinged. Did you storm the Capitol too?

Yup. Found the imbecile Trumper. They’ll deny it, but too late. They already gave themselves away.

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Anonymous wrote:How many of your anxious kids are traumatized and refuse to get in cars because they're required to wear seat belts or sit in car seats?

See how this works?

A mask is nothing like a seatbelt. The proper analogy would be trying to teach a kid to ride a bike with their shoelaces tied together.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

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Anonymous wrote:How many of your anxious kids are traumatized and refuse to get in cars because they're required to wear seat belts or sit in car seats?

See how this works?

Seat belts don’t inhibit children with speech issues from learning to talk. Seat belts aren’t used as fear porn or to silence and create control. See how this works.

Speech issues are not caused by masking.

However, common sense is to mask at an appointment. Therapists can see 8-14 or more patients/clients a day and that puts them and your kids at high risk for covid.

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Speech issues are absolutely caused by masking. Are you actually trying to argue that you can do effective speech therapy with a mask? Anyone trying to argue this with a straight face at this point is not credible.

My kid is unmasked everywhere -- school, metro, planes, trains -- and has not gotten covid. The ONLY place he masks now is in therapy. It's not "common sense" and the fact that you think it is just shows what a complete bubble you're in. I doubt you even need to drive 25 miles outside of DC to find a majority of child therapists who would look extremely sideways at a therapist requiring masking, particularly when emotion recognition, therepeutic bonding, or speech are the issues.

You are exactly why therapists mask. If your child is not masking you cannot blame masks for the speech issues. Your post makes no sense.

My child thankfully does not have speech issues. And somehow I doubt therapists are masking at dinner, with friends, etc etc. This is all a weird sort of theater now. The marginal benefit of masking is far outweighed by the damage to therapy. You know, the therapist's actual job.

Think about how small the therapy rooms are and how close we are to the kids. Now do that 10x+ per day. How’s our viral load if 2 kids are positive? How is the room? It’s not just your child passing through the office.


I absolutely hear you and we are doing our best. It’s not theater. Our families come in having recently recovered from covid, after minimal breaks in care. It’s exhausting absorbing everyone else’s risk.

No, you’re not doing your best. Not at all.

That’s not up to you. Don’t like the policy, go elsewhere. You sound like a perfect candidate for telehealth sessions only, blissfully mask free.

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Anonymous wrote:How many of your anxious kids are traumatized and refuse to get in cars because they're required to wear seat belts or sit in car seats?

See how this works?

A mask is nothing like a seatbelt. The proper analogy would be trying to teach a kid to ride a bike with their shoelaces tied together.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

TBH I think the people claiming that kids need to be masked while receiving speech therapy and other therapies are the melodramatic ones, at this point. Ask yourself if you think this is actually happening anywhere else than SF and DC right now. In the entire world.

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OP - I think your child sounds like someone whose anxiety is leading to reasonable concerns and it is the vast majority of the anti maskers on this thread who are the problem since they are indicative of our country’s approach of just declaring the pandemic over and shaming people who still want to wear masks.

In your initial post, you mentioned needing to assure your child it is safe to enter a store maskless. Why? I think it is completely reasonable to continue to wear masks in public indoor places. I think the important issue would be making sure your child is comfortable with others who are maskless in that setting since that is the current world we live in. She should then be less worried about needing regular Covid tests.

My anxious child had a lot of initial adjustment issues to the new world but after less than a month of explaining the new approach (including therapy with a masked therapist), my child accepts the new situation but our family still generally wears masks in indoor public places

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of your anxious kids are traumatized and refuse to get in cars because they're required to wear seat belts or sit in car seats?

See how this works?

Seat belts don’t inhibit children with speech issues from learning to talk. Seat belts aren’t used as fear porn or to silence and create control. See how this works.

Speech issues are not caused by masking.

However, common sense is to mask at an appointment. Therapists can see 8-14 or more patients/clients a day and that puts them and your kids at high risk for covid.

g

Speech issues are absolutely caused by masking. Are you actually trying to argue that you can do effective speech therapy with a mask? Anyone trying to argue this with a straight face at this point is not credible.

My kid is unmasked everywhere -- school, metro, planes, trains -- and has not gotten covid. The ONLY place he masks now is in therapy. It's not "common sense" and the fact that you think it is just shows what a complete bubble you're in. I doubt you even need to drive 25 miles outside of DC to find a majority of child therapists who would look extremely sideways at a therapist requiring masking, particularly when emotion recognition, therepeutic bonding, or speech are the issues.

You are exactly why therapists mask. If your child is not masking you cannot blame masks for the speech issues. Your post makes no sense.

My child thankfully does not have speech issues. And somehow I doubt therapists are masking at dinner, with friends, etc etc. This is all a weird sort of theater now. The marginal benefit of masking is far outweighed by the damage to therapy. You know, the therapist's actual job.

Think about how small the therapy rooms are and how close we are to the kids. Now do that 10x+ per day. How’s our viral load if 2 kids are positive? How is the room? It’s not just your child passing through the office.


I absolutely hear you and we are doing our best. It’s not theater. Our families come in having recently recovered from covid, after minimal breaks in care. It’s exhausting absorbing everyone else’s risk.

Uh so what did you do pre-covid? You’ve clearly lost all perspective!

DP. What they did was "not catch COVID." (?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of your anxious kids are traumatized and refuse to get in cars because they're required to wear seat belts or sit in car seats?

See how this works?

A mask is nothing like a seatbelt. The proper analogy would be trying to teach a kid to ride a bike with their shoelaces tied together.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

TBH I think the people claiming that kids need to be masked while receiving speech therapy and other therapies are the melodramatic ones, at this point. Ask yourself if you think this is actually happening anywhere else than SF and DC right now. In the entire world.

Yes. It is. There are other places in the US where indoor mask mandates in all public places are still accepted and enforced.

[Anonymous]

NP who doesn’t live in DC and this thread was an eye opener for me. I cannot comprehend that anyone anywhere is still requiring masks for pediatric therapy of any kind. The rest of the world has been done with this for so long.

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Anonymous wrote:NP who doesn’t live in DC and this thread was an eye opener for me. I cannot comprehend that anyone anywhere is still requiring masks for pediatric therapy of any kind. The rest of the world has been done with this for so long.

There are other places who do this, even if they do not where you are. People in different contexts have different risk tolerances.

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Anonymous wrote:NP who doesn’t live in DC and this thread was an eye opener for me. I cannot comprehend that anyone anywhere is still requiring masks for pediatric therapy of any kind. The rest of the world has been done with this for so long.

There are other places who do this, even if they do not where you are. People in different contexts have different risk tolerances.

DP. And there’s the issue. The bizarro risk tolerance in this area that does not correspond to reality, and denies that kids should see faces to communicate and connect.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of your anxious kids are traumatized and refuse to get in cars because they're required to wear seat belts or sit in car seats?

See how this works?

A mask is nothing like a seatbelt. The proper analogy would be trying to teach a kid to ride a bike with their shoelaces tied together.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

TBH I think the people claiming that kids need to be masked while receiving speech therapy and other therapies are the melodramatic ones, at this point. Ask yourself if you think this is actually happening anywhere else than SF and DC right now. In the entire world.

Yes. It is. There are other places in the US where indoor mask mandates in all public places are still accepted and enforced.

Where? Please support with links.