Florida now allows vets and their spouses to teach without degrees

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to teach K-3 I don’t see why a college degree would be needed given the teacher shortage. Any adult who clears a background check, and can read, write grammatically correct sentences, and do some basic math should be able to teach.

With jokers like this in public, I am so glad I am going private

Private schools very often don’t have good teachers.

Not data, thanks for playing

NP. You must be one of those poor private school teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why the military. Why? What is so special about the military? I don't "get it"

Can someone explain the thinking. Even if I don't agree, I want to know --- what are they thinking?

most governments, local and state have hiring preferences for veterans.

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to teach K-3 I don’t see why a college degree would be needed given the teacher shortage. Any adult who clears a background check, and can read, write grammatically correct sentences, and do some basic math should be able to teach.

With jokers like this in public, I am so glad I am going private

Private schools very often don’t have good teachers.

Not data, thanks for playing

NP. You must be one of those poor private school teacher.

You don’t need teacher data to know if a private school has good teachers. You need salary data. My oldest just took a job with a private middle school. He has 4 years experience with a Title I high school and just finished his Masters. Pay is $88,000 plus decent benefits. School has good reputation and nice facilities. Not hard to see they are getting good staff. Wonder why that could be?

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to teach K-3 I don’t see why a college degree would be needed given the teacher shortage. Any adult who clears a background check, and can read, write grammatically correct sentences, and do some basic math should be able to teach.

But since 50% of all new teachers quit by year 5, it should indicate that this job is not for everyone.

The teachers I knew who quit after a few years did so to have kids and stay home with them since it is relatively easy to re-enter teaching after a career break for the little kid years. Most went back after kids were in school.

No idea if that is statistically common but is seems very likely to be a sizable chunk of the 50% loss.

I am in a similar profession and it’s about money. It did not pay for me to work with child care costs.

[Anonymous]

This was all for attention and that’s it. The article said no one signed up. Schools and vets are hot talking points for politicians. It’s all for attention.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/07/21/florida-education-program-military-veterans-teach/10117107002/

What a horrible disservice this is to children! Being in the military or simply being married to someone who was in the military does not qualify anyone to educate young people. They only need half of a degree, a low gpa, and a passing test score - Florida's children are doomed. This is the state's cheapest possible option to get warm bodies into classrooms - not educators. This is how little they care for the future.

To be fair, the politicians' kids are probably in private school

At least those who can afford it, and I guess that's all the GOP cares about, the rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/07/21/florida-education-program-military-veterans-teach/10117107002/

What a horrible disservice this is to children! Being in the military or simply being married to someone who was in the military does not qualify anyone to educate young people. They only need half of a degree, a low gpa, and a passing test score - Florida's children are doomed. This is the state's cheapest possible option to get warm bodies into classrooms - not educators. This is how little they care for the future.

Just like in private schools in DC. No degree or hours necessary; they will train you over the year and provide the curriculum and you can pick and choose what to teach and how.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/07/21/florida-education-program-military-veterans-teach/10117107002/

What a horrible disservice this is to children! Being in the military or simply being married to someone who was in the military does not qualify anyone to educate young people. They only need half of a degree, a low gpa, and a passing test score - Florida's children are doomed. This is the state's cheapest possible option to get warm bodies into classrooms - not educators. This is how little they care for the future.

Just like in private schools in DC. No degree or hours necessary; they will train you over the year and provide the curriculum and you can pick and choose what to teach and how.

They can teach patriotism!!!

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Where are the "there's no teacher shortage" posters??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/07/21/florida-education-program-military-veterans-teach/10117107002/

What a horrible disservice this is to children! Being in the military or simply being married to someone who was in the military does not qualify anyone to educate young people. They only need half of a degree, a low gpa, and a passing test score - Florida's children are doomed. This is the state's cheapest possible option to get warm bodies into classrooms - not educators. This is how little they care for the future.

Just like in private schools in DC. No degree or hours necessary; they will train you over the year and provide the curriculum and you can pick and choose what to teach and how.

Yes, this is what my parents paid extra for in private school; I would have received a better education in public school with actual requirements for their teachers.

So, Florida isn't doing something most private schools aren't already doing. Not surprised no veterans have taken them up on it, they can probably make more money elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

I’m not sure former military are the best people for the job. School isn’t the military and students can get away with a lot due to no consequences. Military folks would be in for a rude awakening at a public school these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure former military are the best people for the job. School isn’t the military and students can get away with a lot due to no consequences. Military folks would be in for a rude awakening at a public school these days.

Actually, I think the misbehaving students and their parents would be the ones in for a rude awakening these days. And I will cheer it on!

[Anonymous]

I personally think that the best thing to do is to provide incentives for veterans to enter other public service jobs, like firefighting, police, and local, county, state government positions. We have a shortage of police officers and firefighters nationwide and we have a large workforce that came from the military that need jobs. It seems like this would be a better fit for our retiring and discharged military than public school teaching.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure former military are the best people for the job. School isn’t the military and students can get away with a lot due to no consequences. Military folks would be in for a rude awakening at a public school these days.

Actually, I think the misbehaving students and their parents would be the ones in for a rude awakening these days. And I will cheer it on!

How long until a video of some dude playing drill sergeant in high school unable to deal with kids goes viral?

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to teach K-3 I don’t see why a college degree would be needed given the teacher shortage. Any adult who clears a background check, and can read, write grammatically correct sentences, and do some basic math should be able to teach.

With jokers like this in public, I am so glad I am going private

Private schools very often don’t have good teachers.

Not data, thanks for playing

NP. You must be one of those poor private school teacher.

You don’t need teacher data to know if a private school has good teachers. You need salary data. My oldest just took a job with a private middle school. He has 4 years experience with a Title I high school and just finished his Masters. Pay is $88,000 plus decent benefits. School has good reputation and nice facilities. Not hard to see they are getting good staff. Wonder why that could be?

Wow! DH and I each have 20 years teaching experience with Master’s degrees and are paid less than $80k at 2 different DMV private schools with tuition rates above $40k/year. The health and retirement benefits are also a joke.