Should MCPS be sued too?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give a serious answer to an unserious question - there are school districts that have failed so badly that they require state receivership. I don't know if Baltimore City PS is one of those systems, but MCPS certainly is not.

We're talking about a system that routinely produces National Merit Scholars, C-SPAN documentary winners, and Rogeneron winners.

Moreover, to build a case you need to show not just individual schools with issues, but an entire system. OP might not like the fact that kids get until the end of the quarter to submit assignments but it's not a secret corrupt rule - it's just the grading policy.

As for attendance, if OP's school is bad at taking attendance, that's a problem with OP's school, not the system. My kids' schools are fine.

I completely agree with this assessment. It may not look like it from your vantage point, OP, but MCPS is one of the best large school systems in the nation.
I certainly do not agree with everything they do, indeed I'm quite upset with a few of their directions, notably their discrimination against Asian students in magnet selection. But to be fair and objective, their overall instructional record is a very good one.

(Also, MCPS employs an army of highly-paid lawyers. Good luck going after them, as parents of special needs children have found out to their dismay... one of the things I don't like about MCPS!)

Oh, I know! Asian students only make up 60% of the magnet while making up 15% of the county population. It's so unfair!

It sounds like you would deny a child a magnet seat because of their skin color versus their qualifications?

Asians are more of a minority in Montgomery County and Maryland than Whites, Blacks, or Latino / Hispanics. Ever think that asians work hard to get into these programs because they know this? They're outnumbered in the workforce and won't get the job based on 'who you know' but only on sheer over-qualification? And you would deny a child that opportunity to learn?

Racist b.

If you work for MCPS, you need to be gone.

Then make it a IQ test.

CogAT was a race-neutral, language-neutral, resource-neutral (e.g. money didn't provide an advantage), Nation-wide cognitive ability test.

MCPS dropped it in favor of the MAP (which favors kids with resources who get tutoring / instruction on the side and the reading portion favors native English speakers).

Why did they do that? Dunno, but if their goal was to give FARMS kids a chance, it backfired. Now FARMS kids are more screwed than ever imho.

Very true, my kids CogAT tutor only cost around $100/hour too.

Let me guess - your kid's scores stunk after taking CogAT multiple times, so you hired a tutor thinking it would help? Too funny.

Yes, and both had perfect scores after a few months of tutoring.

Really? That must be amazing! Please post the tutor's name or contact info. Unless you're lying.

Go to Google and search "Rockville Maryland COGAT tutor" and several pop right up. Or Gaithersburg, Silver Spring, wherever you want. Some of these tutors have been delivering great results for years, and years.

Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:I am an upper elementary teacher do the lottery impacts me in a different way than parents. My issue is that CES was developed as a place for kids who didn’t have a peer group at their home schools, but they also helped teachers by taking those outliers out of our classes. With the lottery system, it is not pulling those outliers. Instead, it is just pulling a few random higher students. We are still needing to meet the needs of any outliers who are not chosen AND those outliers still do not have a peer group. At this point, I don’t even understand the purpose of the program.

This is another example of why teachers are burning out and the needs of students are not met.

+1000 my DC is one of those outliers and really needs to be in a program where she can be challenged. such a program does not exist in her current ES and she's only one of less than a handful of students like that in her school. MCPS needs to expand CES and admit only those students without a peer group at their schools, as well as expanding accelerated programs at home schools. the lack of rigor of the ES curriculum is frustrating and explains the low test scores of our district, not to mention American students in general. Schools should not be teaching at a pace that's appropriate only for the most remedial students of the class.

But the idea that teachers stick in the "slow lane" because of "remedial students" has never been true. Once upon a time America was full of one room school houses with teachers handling all grades and ages at once. And this is that magical time in the past when the USA was the undisputed leader in everything everywhere in the world.

Will you ever recognize that your "dumbed down" "remedial students" "slowed pace" argument just doesn't hold water????

American education is a laughingstock. It's common knowledge how dismally our country ranks internationally, and how unprepared American students are for college. And I can see from the remedial-level material my child brings home from school how slow the learning pace is.

Your child should have plenty of free time then to spend in the public library doing independent research.

DP. Yes. We all know that kids teach themselves in the classroom and conducts their own in-depth research without a teacher guiding them. That would be silly.

I got sent to the library many, many, many times to do my own thing whenever I was too far ahead of the class. And I was never there by myself.

The school librarian was by far, for us, our favorite teacher.

If your kid is that far ahead then cut them loose and let them go wherever their mind takes them.