how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not conflicted. I may be personally conflicted over having an abortion but would never remotely think my views should dictate another woman’s agency over her own body. I’m appalled and furious.

Agree! I was raped at age 16. Thankfully, I did not get pregnant, but even if I had, my ultra religious mother was on board with me getting rid of that rape monster fetus.. Op if you are Catholic and went to Catholic Schools like I did, you were indoctrinated to think abortion was bad by the very same priests who were simultaneously raping children. Hypocrites! Time to think your own thoughts OP.

+1

I can’t help but think that one of the reasons, beyond just misogyny, that religious leaders were so obsessed with stopping abortion was because they wanted more victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not conflicted. I may be personally conflicted over having an abortion but would never remotely think my views should dictate another woman’s agency over her own body. I’m appalled and furious.

Agree! I was raped at age 16. Thankfully, I did not get pregnant, but even if I had, my ultra religious mother was on board with me getting rid of that rape monster fetus.. Op if you are Catholic and went to Catholic Schools like I did, you were indoctrinated to think abortion was bad by the very same priests who were simultaneously raping children. Hypocrites! Time to think your own thoughts OP.

+1

I can’t help but think that one of the reasons, beyond just misogyny, that religious leaders were so obsessed with stopping abortion was because they wanted more victims.

Probably true!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not conflicted. I may be personally conflicted over having an abortion but would never remotely think my views should dictate another woman’s agency over her own body. I’m appalled and furious.

Agree! I was raped at age 16. Thankfully, I did not get pregnant, but even if I had, my ultra religious mother was on board with me getting rid of that rape monster fetus.. Op if you are Catholic and went to Catholic Schools like I did, you were indoctrinated to think abortion was bad by the very same priests who were simultaneously raping children. Hypocrites! Time to think your own thoughts OP.

+1

I can’t help but think that one of the reasons, beyond just misogyny, that religious leaders were so obsessed with stopping abortion was because they wanted more victims.

So many churches thrive on misery. Where it doesn’t exist, they seek to create it. I also think they want more fodder for the ranks. But try as they might to bring back the 1950s, the glory day of the Church in America, it’s never going to happen. We have too many better alternatives to what they are selling. Vocations are in the toilet. Pews are as empty as ever. We’ve seen a life without organized religion and it’s better than we could have ever imagined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not conflicted. I may be personally conflicted over having an abortion but would never remotely think my views should dictate another woman’s agency over her own body. I’m appalled and furious.

Agree! I was raped at age 16. Thankfully, I did not get pregnant, but even if I had, my ultra religious mother was on board with me getting rid of that rape monster fetus.. Op if you are Catholic and went to Catholic Schools like I did, you were indoctrinated to think abortion was bad by the very same priests who were simultaneously raping children. Hypocrites! Time to think your own thoughts OP.

+1

I can’t help but think that one of the reasons, beyond just misogyny, that religious leaders were so obsessed with stopping abortion was because they wanted more victims.

So many churches thrive on misery. Where it doesn’t exist, they seek to create it. I also think they want more fodder for the ranks. But try as they might to bring back the 1950s, the glory day of the Church in America, it’s never going to happen. We have too many better alternatives to what they are selling. Vocations are in the toilet. Pews are as empty as ever. We’ve seen a life without organized religion and it’s better than we could have ever imagined.

So true, but the churches are doing everything possible to turn back the clock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure I'll be crucified for posting this because emotions are running very high.
Life-long democratic woman (voted Obama x 2, Hilary, Biden and about a zillion other demographic and very progressive candidates over the years).
Very pro-gay rights, pro-strict gun control, etc. Quietly live in NW DC and indistinguishable from a zillion other progressive DC residents.

But when it comes down to it I feel fundamentally very, very conflicted. I am repulsed by the Republican party and I recoil at their hypocrisy, their treatment of the poor, minorities, women etc.
and yet I have long been deeply grieved by the issue of abortion. The fact the United States aborted 600,000 to 800,000 babies last year (I just googled for this number--it's not something I've ever looked up before) is very troubling to me.
I've never really reconciled the abortion issue in my brain. I've chosen to completely ignore it in the voting booth because I feel that there are scores of more important issues out there. I guess when the rubber hits-the-road I support abortion as a necessary evil and an important healthcare option in cases of health of mother, baby, and likely incest, rape but I'm not sure how we as a country get from this to so many terminations per year. So with this ruling I am feeling all sorts of conflicting thoughts. Mostly just sadness. Anyone else with me? I know we are out there because I've had this conversation with several very, very close, very safe friends who feel similarly since this happened yesterday.

We feel this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure I'll be crucified for posting this because emotions are running very high.
Life-long democratic woman (voted Obama x 2, Hilary, Biden and about a zillion other demographic and very progressive candidates over the years).
Very pro-gay rights, pro-strict gun control, etc. Quietly live in NW DC and indistinguishable from a zillion other progressive DC residents.

But when it comes down to it I feel fundamentally very, very conflicted. I am repulsed by the Republican party and I recoil at their hypocrisy, their treatment of the poor, minorities, women etc.
and yet I have long been deeply grieved by the issue of abortion. The fact the United States aborted 600,000 to 800,000 babies last year (I just googled for this number--it's not something I've ever looked up before) is very troubling to me.
I've never really reconciled the abortion issue in my brain. I've chosen to completely ignore it in the voting booth because I feel that there are scores of more important issues out there. I guess when the rubber hits-the-road I support abortion as a necessary evil and an important healthcare option in cases of health of mother, baby, and likely incest, rape but I'm not sure how we as a country get from this to so many terminations per year. So with this ruling I am feeling all sorts of conflicting thoughts. Mostly just sadness. Anyone else with me? I know we are out there because I've had this conversation with several very, very close, very safe friends who feel similarly since this happened yesterday.

We feel this way.

So never get an abortion. That is fine and will be respected. Why would you let your feelings dictate what is right for other women? That is so disrespectful to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure I'll be crucified for posting this because emotions are running very high.
Life-long democratic woman (voted Obama x 2, Hilary, Biden and about a zillion other demographic and very progressive candidates over the years).
Very pro-gay rights, pro-strict gun control, etc. Quietly live in NW DC and indistinguishable from a zillion other progressive DC residents.

But when it comes down to it I feel fundamentally very, very conflicted. I am repulsed by the Republican party and I recoil at their hypocrisy, their treatment of the poor, minorities, women etc.
and yet I have long been deeply grieved by the issue of abortion. The fact the United States aborted 600,000 to 800,000 babies last year (I just googled for this number--it's not something I've ever looked up before) is very troubling to me.
I've never really reconciled the abortion issue in my brain. I've chosen to completely ignore it in the voting booth because I feel that there are scores of more important issues out there. I guess when the rubber hits-the-road I support abortion as a necessary evil and an important healthcare option in cases of health of mother, baby, and likely incest, rape but I'm not sure how we as a country get from this to so many terminations per year. So with this ruling I am feeling all sorts of conflicting thoughts. Mostly just sadness. Anyone else with me? I know we are out there because I've had this conversation with several very, very close, very safe friends who feel similarly since this happened yesterday.

We feel this way.

How do you feel about the millions of orphans that will now be created? Of the millions of children being abused because they were unwanted to begin with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure I'll be crucified for posting this because emotions are running very high.
Life-long democratic woman (voted Obama x 2, Hilary, Biden and about a zillion other demographic and very progressive candidates over the years).
Very pro-gay rights, pro-strict gun control, etc. Quietly live in NW DC and indistinguishable from a zillion other progressive DC residents.

But when it comes down to it I feel fundamentally very, very conflicted. I am repulsed by the Republican party and I recoil at their hypocrisy, their treatment of the poor, minorities, women etc.
and yet I have long been deeply grieved by the issue of abortion. The fact the United States aborted 600,000 to 800,000 babies last year (I just googled for this number--it's not something I've ever looked up before) is very troubling to me.
I've never really reconciled the abortion issue in my brain. I've chosen to completely ignore it in the voting booth because I feel that there are scores of more important issues out there. I guess when the rubber hits-the-road I support abortion as a necessary evil and an important healthcare option in cases of health of mother, baby, and likely incest, rape but I'm not sure how we as a country get from this to so many terminations per year. So with this ruling I am feeling all sorts of conflicting thoughts. Mostly just sadness. Anyone else with me? I know we are out there because I've had this conversation with several very, very close, very safe friends who feel similarly since this happened yesterday.

We feel this way.

How do you feel about the millions of orphans that will now be created? Of the millions of children being abused because they were unwanted to begin with?

That is the biggest question for me. What will happen to those children who are now in the system and can’t be raised the way they should be. Who will pay for those increased costs?

How about all of the anti-choice people adopting all of these kids so that the federal/state system isn’t overburdened because of these decisions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure I'll be crucified for posting this because emotions are running very high.
Life-long democratic woman (voted Obama x 2, Hilary, Biden and about a zillion other demographic and very progressive candidates over the years).
Very pro-gay rights, pro-strict gun control, etc. Quietly live in NW DC and indistinguishable from a zillion other progressive DC residents.

But when it comes down to it I feel fundamentally very, very conflicted. I am repulsed by the Republican party and I recoil at their hypocrisy, their treatment of the poor, minorities, women etc.
and yet I have long been deeply grieved by the issue of abortion. The fact the United States aborted 600,000 to 800,000 babies last year (I just googled for this number--it's not something I've ever looked up before) is very troubling to me.
I've never really reconciled the abortion issue in my brain. I've chosen to completely ignore it in the voting booth because I feel that there are scores of more important issues out there. I guess when the rubber hits-the-road I support abortion as a necessary evil and an important healthcare option in cases of health of mother, baby, and likely incest, rape but I'm not sure how we as a country get from this to so many terminations per year. So with this ruling I am feeling all sorts of conflicting thoughts. Mostly just sadness. Anyone else with me? I know we are out there because I've had this conversation with several very, very close, very safe friends who feel similarly since this happened yesterday.

We feel this way.

How do you feel about the millions of orphans that will now be created? Of the millions of children being abused because they were unwanted to begin with?

That is the biggest question for me. What will happen to those children who are now in the system and can’t be raised the way they should be. Who will pay for those increased costs?

How about all of the anti-choice people adopting all of these kids so that the federal/state system isn’t overburdened because of these decisions?

We already know the answer to your last question - those people will not be adopting unwanted kids and will continue to vote for candidates that will advocate for cuts to any programs that provides support to those children, making their ever so important lives even worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure I'll be crucified for posting this because emotions are running very high.
Life-long democratic woman (voted Obama x 2, Hilary, Biden and about a zillion other demographic and very progressive candidates over the years).
Very pro-gay rights, pro-strict gun control, etc. Quietly live in NW DC and indistinguishable from a zillion other progressive DC residents.

But when it comes down to it I feel fundamentally very, very conflicted. I am repulsed by the Republican party and I recoil at their hypocrisy, their treatment of the poor, minorities, women etc.
and yet I have long been deeply grieved by the issue of abortion. The fact the United States aborted 600,000 to 800,000 babies last year (I just googled for this number--it's not something I've ever looked up before) is very troubling to me.
I've never really reconciled the abortion issue in my brain. I've chosen to completely ignore it in the voting booth because I feel that there are scores of more important issues out there. I guess when the rubber hits-the-road I support abortion as a necessary evil and an important healthcare option in cases of health of mother, baby, and likely incest, rape but I'm not sure how we as a country get from this to so many terminations per year. So with this ruling I am feeling all sorts of conflicting thoughts. Mostly just sadness. Anyone else with me? I know we are out there because I've had this conversation with several very, very close, very safe friends who feel similarly since this happened yesterday.

We feel this way.

So advocate for better access to birth control. The answer is not to force women to have babies.

[Anonymous]

I’m conflicted too. I don’t believe women should be forced to have a baby if they’ve been rapped. That is just inhumane. But I do believe at a certain point it’s killing a human; which no one should get to do. So I’m for abortion but only under some guidelines. The problem now is that it seems all or nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m conflicted too. I don’t believe women should be forced to have a baby if they’ve been rapped. That is just inhumane. But I do believe at a certain point it’s killing a human; which no one should get to do. So I’m for abortion but only under some guidelines. The problem now is that it seems all or nothing.

Gotcha. So women have the right to bodily autonomy if they first been violated by a man?.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m conflicted too. I don’t believe women should be forced to have a baby if they’ve been rapped. That is just inhumane. But I do believe at a certain point it’s killing a human; which no one should get to do. So I’m for abortion but only under some guidelines. The problem now is that it seems all or nothing.

Then you supported Roe.

It’s really sad that you weren’t aware before now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. You know why? Because I look at the most successful ways to decrease the rate of abortions, and both here and abroad, it's not by allowing or promoting them to be banned.

I'm all for ways to decrease the rate of abortions being sought that are actually effective. Are you?

This. The most “pro-life” peeps are the same ones who want to limit access to contraception. Why isn’t plan B OTC by now, for starters.

[Anonymous]

I was aware before now. I’ve been conflicted by this my whole life. I took my college friend to have an abortion. Drove her there and back. She cried the whole way home. As an 18 year old, I didn’t know what to make of it all. And ever since it’s been a very difficult for me say whether I’m for or against abortion.