how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am against abortion. Banning them is not the way to go about it.

+1

The rich will still get them.

The poor will try them with coat hangers.

This is why I am pro choice. But I am conflicted that it is something that is viewed as simply birth control by many. And there are states today that have legalized it until birth for any reason (not health of the mother). Colorado is one. And I do have a problem with that. The only thing that this does is force people to focus on the local rules where they live. In some places, the laws are too restrictive for my taste (banned outright, or even after 6 weeks) and in others it’s too easy (Colorado, NY). And since most people just took it for granted that the right would always be there, I think a lot of people have tuned out the rules in their local jurisdictions. So if there is a silver lining, people will now need to focus on it again where they live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I am full of rage. Rate that women are right now being denied a health care service that should be legal. Rage at those who enabled this atrocity to happen and those who will do nothing to overturn it.

In the places where this is true, the voters need to speak out!

[Anonymous]

Look this isn’t about abortion. This is about preserving the right of women to decide these things for themselves in some circumstances. How dare you substitute your judgment for people you don’t know but whose lives will be ruined or ended without access to abortion. You can’t be this stupid. Can you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am against abortion. Banning them is not the way to go about it.

+1

The rich will still get them.

The poor will try them with coat hangers.

This is why I am pro choice. But I am conflicted that it is something that is viewed as simply birth control by many. And there are states today that have legalized it until birth for any reason (not health of the mother). Colorado is one. And I do have a problem with that. The only thing that this does is force people to focus on the local rules where they live. In some places, the laws are too restrictive for my taste (banned outright, or even after 6 weeks) and in others it’s too easy (Colorado, NY). And since most people just took it for granted that the right would always be there, I think a lot of people have tuned out the rules in their local jurisdictions. So if there is a silver lining, people will now need to focus on it again where they live.

This is your own bigoted belief. No woman sees abortion as simply birth control. Those women that you think are “promiscuous” or poor (because let’s be honest this is who you mean) do not see something as invasive and life altering as abortion, birth control. Abortion is a last resort measure in the rare case of an unplanned pregnancy. No woman is having 2-3 abortions a year because hey it’s birth control. Seriously, you need to go to an abortion clinic and talk to women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am against abortion. Banning them is not the way to go about it.

+1

The rich will still get them.

The poor will try them with coat hangers.

This is why I am pro choice. But I am conflicted that it is something that is viewed as simply birth control by many. And there are states today that have legalized it until birth for any reason (not health of the mother). Colorado is one. And I do have a problem with that. The only thing that this does is force people to focus on the local rules where they live. In some places, the laws are too restrictive for my taste (banned outright, or even after 6 weeks) and in others it’s too easy (Colorado, NY). And since most people just took it for granted that the right would always be there, I think a lot of people have tuned out the rules in their local jurisdictions. So if there is a silver lining, people will now need to focus on it again where they live.

This is your own bigoted belief. No woman sees abortion as simply birth control. Those women that you think are “promiscuous” or poor (because let’s be honest this is who you mean) do not see something as invasive and life altering as abortion, birth control. Abortion is a last resort measure in the rare case of an unplanned pregnancy. No woman is having 2-3 abortions a year because hey it’s birth control. Seriously, you need to go to an abortion clinic and talk to women.

I don't understance this stance. Abortion is a form of birth control.

A woman is simply taking control of what she wants or refuses to give birth to. What is the problem?

[Anonymous]

Yeah, OP, I don't understand your concern. If a woman doesn't want to have her body used by another entity -- that's her choice. She gets to decide how her uterus is used.

If it bothers you that so many embryos are aborted, then work towards getting better sex education and easier access to contraception for all. And work towards finding supports for women who DO want to stay pregnant but feel they cannot support a child. There are great ways to reduce the number of abortions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I have mixed emotions. I bet most people do, OP.

My issue is there's never middle ground on this issue. And now Im envisioning all the pro choice folks moving to states where abortion will be legal (including already born children like the Philip K Dick short story) up until the age assisted suicide is legal. Meanwhile, the other people will move to states where abortion, contraception, IVF and everything else are illegal. And there will be no place for those of us in the middle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I have mixed emotions. I bet most people do, OP.

My issue is there's never middle ground on this issue. And now Im envisioning all the pro choice folks moving to states where abortion will be legal (including already born children like the Philip K Dick short story) up until the age assisted suicide is legal. Meanwhile, the other people will move to states where abortion, contraception, IVF and everything else are illegal. And there will be no place for those of us in the middle.

ROE WAS THE MIDDLE GROUND.

Oh my god people. This is all breaking my heart. How could you be this ignorant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am against abortion. Banning them is not the way to go about it.

+1

The rich will still get them.

The poor will try them with coat hangers.

This is why I am pro choice. But I am conflicted that it is something that is viewed as simply birth control by many. And there are states today that have legalized it until birth for any reason (not health of the mother). Colorado is one. And I do have a problem with that. The only thing that this does is force people to focus on the local rules where they live. In some places, the laws are too restrictive for my taste (banned outright, or even after 6 weeks) and in others it’s too easy (Colorado, NY). And since most people just took it for granted that the right would always be there, I think a lot of people have tuned out the rules in their local jurisdictions. So if there is a silver lining, people will now need to focus on it again where they live.

This is your own bigoted belief. No woman sees abortion as simply birth control. Those women that you think are “promiscuous” or poor (because let’s be honest this is who you mean) do not see something as invasive and life altering as abortion, birth control. Abortion is a last resort measure in the rare case of an unplanned pregnancy. No woman is having 2-3 abortions a year because hey it’s birth control. Seriously, you need to go to an abortion clinic and talk to women.

I don't understance this stance. Abortion is a form of birth control.

A woman is simply taking control of what she wants or refuses to give birth to. What is the problem?

Yes there is a problem. It implies that many women are careless and stupid and do not use other forms of birth control that prevent an unwanted pregnancy in earlier stages. Basically abortion of a fetus is their birth control of choice.

[Anonymous]

How do you feel about women who discard their extra embryos from ivf?

[Anonymous]

A lot of Americans agree with you, OP. Look at Pew Research’s polling on abortion. Lots of Americans feel conflicted with the technical parts of abortion legislation. Such as: Do I think a 15 week fetus is a baby? Do I think a 22 week fetus is a baby? What explains my thinking? If most abortions occur before 15 weeks, does it matter to have a 15 week ban? Is there any room for compromise on such a sensitive issue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am against abortion. Banning them is not the way to go about it.

+1

The rich will still get them.

The poor will try them with coat hangers.

This is why I am pro choice. But I am conflicted that it is something that is viewed as simply birth control by many. And there are states today that have legalized it until birth for any reason (not health of the mother). Colorado is one. And I do have a problem with that. The only thing that this does is force people to focus on the local rules where they live. In some places, the laws are too restrictive for my taste (banned outright, or even after 6 weeks) and in others it’s too easy (Colorado, NY). And since most people just took it for granted that the right would always be there, I think a lot of people have tuned out the rules in their local jurisdictions. So if there is a silver lining, people will now need to focus on it again where they live.

This is your own bigoted belief. No woman sees abortion as simply birth control. Those women that you think are “promiscuous” or poor (because let’s be honest this is who you mean) do not see something as invasive and life altering as abortion, birth control. Abortion is a last resort measure in the rare case of an unplanned pregnancy. No woman is having 2-3 abortions a year because hey it’s birth control. Seriously, you need to go to an abortion clinic and talk to women.

+1000. Do people think abortion is just a walk in the park procedure that people are nonchalant about? Get your abortions everyone! Abortion on every street corner! Tired of carrying that 8 month old baby? Changed your mind and decided, nah, I’m good? Run out and get your abortion! NO BIGGIE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I have mixed emotions. I bet most people do, OP.

My issue is there's never middle ground on this issue. And now Im envisioning all the pro choice folks moving to states where abortion will be legal (including already born children like the Philip K Dick short story) up until the age assisted suicide is legal. Meanwhile, the other people will move to states where abortion, contraception, IVF and everything else are illegal. And there will be no place for those of us in the middle.

ROE WAS THE MIDDLE GROUND.

Oh my god people. This is all breaking my heart. How could you be this ignorant?

This. I’m honestly not sure how to go from here. I had not realized how self-centered and incurious people had become. Some of the comments I have read are truly astonishing and heartbreaking in that people truly don’t understand what this opinion means.

[Anonymous]

OP. Other people’s lives aren’t your business. I haven’t had an abortion in my life because I always had birth control that worked and that I could afford. My college roommates all did not. Many of my female friends have had abortions. I firmly believe it is their right to choose when to have a child. Today, I have no need for an abortion but that’s my choice and life. My life isn’t universal! Women need to make their own decisions in life, regardless of what anyone thinks because in many cases, they’re the only person who must live (and raise) that choice.

[Anonymous]

Not mixed about it AT ALL. Been pregnant 5 times. Miscarried 3 of them. Gave birth to 2. Adopted 1. Women get to make the call on their bodies. PERIOD.