Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote

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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


Yes, they doubled the number of Hispanic and AA students as well as the big increase in FARMs students, but overall the changes seem minor.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


Yes, they doubled the number of Hispanic and AA students as well as the big increase in FARMs students, but overall the changes seem minor.


Only if you are applauding discrimination against Asians.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


The problem is some of the AAP centers pull from multiple school zones and FCPS was too dumb to take that into account. They need to be using the base attendance area.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.


It wasn't just that, it was the whole application process including adding substantial weight to

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English Language Learners
Special Education

They went way overboard where most of the application had nothing to do with STEM

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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.


It wasn't just that, it was the whole application process including adding substantial weight to

Experience Factors

Economically Disadvantaged
English Language Learners
Special Education

They went way overboard where most of the application had nothing to do with STEM

Complete the Student Portrait Sheet
Students will demonstrate Portrait of a Graduate attributes and 21st Century Skills

Collaborator
Communicator
Creative and Critical Thinker
Ethical/Global Citizen
Goal-Directed & Resilient Individual
Innovator
Leader
Problem Solver
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Seems very reasonable. You can not admit everyone who applies.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.


It wasn't just that, it was the whole application process including adding substantial weight to

Experience Factors

Economically Disadvantaged
English Language Learners
Special Education

They went way overboard where most of the application had nothing to do with STEM

Complete the Student Portrait Sheet
Students will demonstrate Portrait of a Graduate attributes and 21st Century Skills

Collaborator
Communicator
Creative and Critical Thinker
Ethical/Global Citizen
Goal-Directed & Resilient Individual
Innovator
Leader
Problem Solver
Complete the Problem-Solving Essay
Math and/or Science content
Topic will include multiple variables/steps
Applicant response will include solution along with explanation of process to solve problem.
Written in essay format
GPA (Core)
Experience Factors
Economically Disadvantaged
English Language Learners
Special Education



Seems very reasonable. You can not admit everyone who applies.


Of course you can't but these aren't factors to identify who the best STEM students are.

Here's the reality and a compromise. They should drop Science and Technology out of the name, remove the advanced STEM focus/courses and have it be a general application school.

Most students from the top 1/3 of high schools won't apply and it can serve folks from the bottom 2/3 of high schools to get them on a better path for overall success vs their base school.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.


If by discriminate you mean reduce the impact that buying advance copies of the entrance exam had on selection, sure.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.


If by discriminate you mean reduce the impact that buying advance copies of the entrance exam had on selection, sure.


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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.


If by discriminate you mean reduce the impact that buying advance copies of the entrance exam had on selection, sure.


Source?


There are dozens of threads covering this here. Many claimed to have seen the questions prior to the test. The speculation here was they prep centers had developed question banks by interviewing those who had taken the exam in prior years.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that


Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.


You got that right.


Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.


You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.


Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.


I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.


US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.


And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!


If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.



If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.


So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.


It was Congress that decided that private schools accepting federal money are subject to anti-discrimination laws. That’s already been determined; it’s just up to the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes discrimination.

In TJ’s case it doesn’t matter if there are two or three years where the kids are admitted pursuant to the new process. The opponents are playing long ball and will do everything they can to get the case before the current Supreme Court.


The TJ admission changes seem kind of minor and pretty reasonable for a publicly funded school that uses a race-blind process. Harvard and many private Universities engage in racial balancing in an effort to engineer diversity. Even if the crazies on the current SCOTUS case continue to toss precedent to reverse 100 years of social progress, how would this case impact TJ?

I mean sure if they decide in favor of Harvard maybe FCPS could engage in racial balancing too, but I find that outcome unlikley.


Changes are not minor and Federal Court has ruled FCPS discriminated against Asian students.


I'm skeptical that a race-blind selection process where Asian students received the lion's share of acceptance discriminates against them. The issue is using geographic norms in ranking which is considered a best practice in G&T education circles to account SES differences.


DP, but the issue will be whether a facially race-neutral policy adopted with a discriminatory intent is a violation. If they’d just switched over to allocating seats by middle school without creating the record that their intent was to reduce the percentage of Asian kids it would be a non-issue. In this case, the decision to switch over to middle school quotas was because they thought it would pump up the % of Black and Hispanic kids and reduce the % of Asian kids.


If by discriminate you mean reduce the impact that buying advance copies of the entrance exam had on selection, sure.


Source?


There are dozens of threads covering this here. Many claimed to have seen the questions prior to the test. The speculation here was they prep centers had developed question banks by interviewing those who had taken the exam in prior years.


Did you prep Hutchinson? You sound like her.
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