Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote

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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that

Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.

You got that right.

Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.

You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.

Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.

I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.

US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.

And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!

The court has lost any legitimacy it once had at this point so kind of hard to take its decisions seriously. Half the members are on the record lying to congress even and one is supporter of the insurrection even so not like they have any credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.

The colleges are calling discrimination diversity, because that's what the Supreme Court said was the only way they could get away with it.

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Most have families who shell out $20k for prep classes so by my definition they're wealthy.

Curie costs $6250 for a rising 7th grader for classes until they complete 8th grade.
$4050 if they skip summer and 2nd semester of 8th grade.

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Most have families who shell out $20k for prep classes so by my definition they're wealthy.

Curie costs $6250 for a rising 7th grader for classes until they complete 8th grade.
$4050 if they skip summer and 2nd semester of 8th grade.

So if most start training in 6th, roughly $16k for the usual 2.5 years of prep?

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Most have families who shell out $20k for prep classes so by my definition they're wealthy.

Curie costs $6250 for a rising 7th grader for classes until they complete 8th grade.
$4050 if they skip summer and 2nd semester of 8th grade.

So if most start training in 6th, roughly $16k for the usual 2.5 years of prep?[/quote

It starts even earlier in the elementary grades Khan academy mathesium etc

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Most have families who shell out $20k for prep classes so by my definition they're wealthy.

Curie costs $6250 for a rising 7th grader for classes until they complete 8th grade.
$4050 if they skip summer and 2nd semester of 8th grade.

So if most start training in 6th, roughly $16k for the usual 2.5 years of prep?[/quote

It starts even earlier in the elementary grades Khan academy mathesium etc

Ya, mine started at mathnasium at 8 and moved on to AoPS at 9 for grades 4, 5 and 6.

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Anonymous wrote:Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.

The colleges are calling discrimination diversity, because that's what the Supreme Court said was the only way they could get away with it.

The opposite appears to be true since some argue that diversity is discrimination when it's the opposite. They don't seem to value diversity.

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Diversity is fine as long as Asians are not collateral damage.

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Anonymous wrote:The admissions process at TJ may not have been fool proof in the past but it functioned reasonably well. Now it’s just a hash. Imagine a process whose goal isn’t to admit the best qualified kids but just to keep low-brow politicians like Karen Keys Gamarra and Karen Corbett Sanders off your backs.

Sure, if you are okay with allowing the wealthy to game admission and excluding the poor.

There aren't many wealthy students at TJ - most are middle class except some wealthy white students.

This is COMPLETELY false. Among the Asian population at TJ under the old admissions process you had two primary groups - about 40% of them are East Asian, who are predominantly middle class with a smattering of high-income and low-income students coming from all over the area; while the other 60% are South Asian, and overwhelmingly VERY well off and coming from a few high-income enclaves in Herndon, Chantilly, Ashburn, Brambleton, and South Riding.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that

Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.

You got that right.

Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.

You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.

Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.

I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.

US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.

And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!

If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.

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Anonymous wrote:Diversity is fine as long as Asians are not collateral damage.

No reasonable person would consider 50%+ of all seats collateral damage for a group that makes up less than 20% of the county's population. In fact, as a group they're doing better than everyone else so not sure what the problem is.

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Anonymous wrote:Diversity is fine as long as Asians are not collateral damage.

No reasonable person would consider 50%+ of all seats collateral damage for a group that makes up less than 20% of the county's population. In fact, as a group they're doing better than everyone else so not sure what the problem is.

One problem is that you're lumping all Asians into one demographic pot. If you were to break down the stats further, you'd almost certainly find that South Asians are extremely over-represented, and East Asians are not especially overrepresented at all. Another problem is that you're comparing TJ demographics to Fairfax County demographics, when pretty much all 90-ish LCPS seats are going to South Asians. If you take that into account, the Asians actually from FCPS are not as disproportionate as you think. Yet another problem is that if you look at the kids with very impressive STEM achievements, they're almost all Asian. Equally and often more privileged white people are not achieving much of anything of note, and thus should lose out to higher achieving Asian kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that

Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.

You got that right.

Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.

You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.

Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.

I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.

US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.

And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!

If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.

If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Diversity is fine as long as Asians are not collateral damage.

No reasonable person would consider 50%+ of all seats collateral damage for a group that makes up less than 20% of the county's population. In fact, as a group they're doing better than everyone else so not sure what the problem is.

One problem is that you're lumping all Asians into one demographic pot. If you were to break down the stats further, you'd almost certainly find that South Asians are extremely over-represented, and East Asians are not especially overrepresented at all. Another problem is that you're comparing TJ demographics to Fairfax County demographics, when pretty much all 90-ish LCPS seats are going to South Asians. If you take that into account, the Asians actually from FCPS are not as disproportionate as you think. Yet another problem is that if you look at the kids with very impressive STEM achievements, they're almost all Asian. Equally and often more privileged white people are not achieving much of anything of note, and thus should lose out to higher achieving Asian kids.

*yawn*

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be a wonderful year next year - incompetent racist fairfax school board members will be thrown out on their asses and the SCOTUS will rule and announce to end affirmative action case soon after that

Right - the Supreme Court do not need Robert's vote to end AA with Harvard case.

You got that right.

Don't think they will try to tell a private University who they should admit. It's perfectly reasonable that they value diversity. I know I do.

You are misinformed and should brush up on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which conditions federal assistance to private universities on their non-discrimination. Harvard gets lots of federal research grants.

There's really no doubt on that point; the issue is what constitutes discrimination on the basis of "race, color, or national origin."

The current Supreme Court isn't going to put up with Ibram Kendi-style "the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination" justifications for discrimination against Asian and White students.

Trying to label diversity as discrimination is like calling up down or left right . Your purposefully misleading people with this juvenile sophistry.

Asians are discriminated in the college admissions process.

I don't know about that but since we do know that the county is roughly 15% Asian and that Asians make up over 50% of TJ there is no discrimination going on there.

US District Court Judge ruled otherwise.

And the SCOTUS will affirm district court ruling and reverse 4th Circuit ruling next term! Roberts will be a non-factor again!

If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to?

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. The Class of 2027 process will look the same as the 2025 and 2026.

If they were going to do this, then why didn't they stop the Class of 2026 process from going forward when they had the chance to? Read the post again. It says Roberts will be a non-factor as in Roberts who decided to let the injunctive relief stand for now will be of no consequence even if he votes in favor of Harvard.

4th Circuit has not weighed in on this and will not until at least September. Read the post again. It says "reverse 4th circuit ruling NEXT TERM meaning of course 4th circuit will reverse the District Court's ruling and SCOTUS will reverse 4th circuit next term once they grant cert.

So they are going to dictate admission criteria to a private college? Why stop there? Why not tell business how they should hire too! As much as I have little faith in this court, even they are unlikely to go there.