8th grader who is 15?

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Anonymous wrote:The redshirting has got to stop. Thankfully the state of NY has banned it.

no they haven't New York City has banned it.

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Anonymous wrote:This year was interesting - there were two kids that turned 7 in my daughter's kindergarten class before winter break. Both of them were redshirted in 2020 and then did private JK in 2021 because mommy wanted them to be in school in person, then instead of starting them in 1st like they should have, put them in public school K. Not very smart ladies.

I did exactly this with mine but years ago - private K and then public K, late July birthday. He's first year at MIT now. Best decision ever and I'd highly recommended for anyone who can afford an extra year of private school.

Sounds completely unnecessary if he has a good preschool and was properly prepared.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

My child turns 13 during 8th grade so that’s a two year age difference. It’s a big difference.

Your child was 12 in 8th grade? That is not the norm at all! Most are 13 and turn 14 that year. My 14.5 year old just finished 8th and my 12 year old is now going into 7th. And we sent them on time. Your math seems off!

Your math is off, my child was 13 the entire 8th grade year.

PP said “most”. Which is true. Most kids don’t have summer birthdays.

PP here. Reading comprehension skills are not in evidence in a lot of this thread. I was a summer birthday and was 13 all through 8th, and I was always the youngest kid. It sucked, and it was not the norm.

August is the month with the most births followed by July, so there are a ton of summer babies. April and February have the least.

Ok. But it’s true that most 8th graders are 13 turning 14.

- turned 13 in 8th and remember that most kids were turning a year older. It was even more painfully obvious when other kids began to drive and when they turned 21.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

My child turns 13 during 8th grade so that’s a two year age difference. It’s a big difference.

Your child was 12 in 8th grade? That is not the norm at all! Most are 13 and turn 14 that year. My 14.5 year old just finished 8th and my 12 year old is now going into 7th. And we sent them on time. Your math seems off!

Your math is off, my child was 13 the entire 8th grade year.

All the birthdays my child attended in 8th grade were for kids turning 14. Nobody was 12, turning 13.

My child will be 12 turning 13 in 8th.

What month? If this is true, then your kid started kindergarten when they were 4. So they had to turn 5 fairly early in the year (depending on your state’s cutoff), or they wouldn’t have been allowed to go. So you’re being disingenuous at best. Your kid was 13 most of the year in 8th grade.

Yes, they technically were four for a few weeks but they were five the majority of the year. My child will e 12 turning 13 for 8th.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

12-14 is a two year difference.

12-15 is a three year difference.

That is huge.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

My child turns 13 during 8th grade so that’s a two year age difference. It’s a big difference.

Your child was 12 in 8th grade? That is not the norm at all! Most are 13 and turn 14 that year. My 14.5 year old just finished 8th and my 12 year old is now going into 7th. And we sent them on time. Your math seems off!

Your math is off, my child was 13 the entire 8th grade year.

PP said “most”. Which is true. Most kids don’t have summer birthdays.

PP here. Reading comprehension skills are not in evidence in a lot of this thread. I was a summer birthday and was 13 all through 8th, and I was always the youngest kid. It sucked, and it was not the norm.

August is the month with the most births followed by July, so there are a ton of summer babies. April and February have the least.

Ok. But it’s true that most 8th graders are 13 turning 14.

- turned 13 in 8th and remember that most kids were turning a year older. It was even more painfully obvious when other kids began to drive and when they turned 21.

Well, if you had dropped out of college due to anxiety like I did, gone back later and finished later, you wouldn't have had that "painful" experience, now would you have? Is that what you would rather have had happen to you? I know that I would've much rather been the last of my classmates to turn 21 if it meant I could've had a straight clean path as opposed to the crooked messy path I had; a path that being the first to turn 21 wasn't worth.

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Anonymous wrote:My 1st grader had two 8 year olds in her class in the spring. She's still only 6. It's weird. And those kids were the worst behaved too.

In fairness, that is probably why they were held back.

And then it's unfair because they're also bigger and can more easily bully and hit the younger kids. It shouldn't be allowed.

I actually don't think bullying would be a problem with redshirted kids. As one grows bigger physically, so one grows bigger morally. Kids who are old enough to physically hurt their classmates are also going to be old enough to know better.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

12-14 is a two year difference.

12-15 is a three year difference.

That is huge.

Psst… the difference between someone who is 14 years and 11 months old and someone who is 15 years and 1 month old isn’t a year. It’s 2 months. The more you know!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

12-14 is a two year difference.

12-15 is a three year difference.

That is huge.

Psst… the difference between someone who is 14 years and 11 months old and someone who is 15 years and 1 month old isn’t a year. It’s 2 months. The more you know!

Huge difference. Huge.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

12-14 is a two year difference.

12-15 is a three year difference.

That is huge.

These are kids in 8th grade: someone may be 12 when school starts in august but (if in NOVA where cut off is sept 1) they will turn 13 a couple weeks into school. Majority of 8th graders (anyone born between September 1-March/April and probably even through June/July in most schools) will be 13 turning 14 at some point in the school year or shortly after the school year finishes. There will be some outliers (kids with spring bdays who were held back/redshirted and will be 14 for most of 8th grade and then turn 15 at the end of the school year.)

So let’s look at the #s…

The few kids who started 8th in 2021 at age 12 and shortly after 8th began turned 13: were born in September 2008
Majority of the kids who were 13 when 2021-22 school year began and turned 14 during school: born between September 2007-May 2008
A few kids who started 8th in 2021 at age 14 and turned 15 in spring of 2022: were born between April-June 2007

What is the age range? Oldest kids were born April 2007 (currently age 15), youngest in September 2008 (currently age 13). Are they 2 years apart in age? No. They are at most 17 months apart in age. Slight chance they could be 18 months apart (I’ve never heard of someone redshirting a March bday or even April but I’m being generous here).

Are there any kids who are 12 for more than a few weeks of 8th grade? No. Are there kids who are 15 for more than a few weeks of 8th? No.

The age range at any typical school is not 12-15. It’s a span of kids within about 16-18 months of age and they will be almost all be 13-14 for majority of 8th grade.

Stop exaggerating.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

12-14 is a two year difference.

12-15 is a three year difference.

That is huge.

These are kids in 8th grade: someone may be 12 when school starts in august but (if in NOVA where cut off is sept 1) they will turn 13 a couple weeks into school. Majority of 8th graders (anyone born between September 1-March/April and probably even through June/July in most schools) will be 13 turning 14 at some point in the school year or shortly after the school year finishes. There will be some outliers (kids with spring bdays who were held back/redshirted and will be 14 for most of 8th grade and then turn 15 at the end of the school year.)

So let’s look at the #s…

The few kids who started 8th in 2021 at age 12 and shortly after 8th began turned 13: were born in September 2008
Majority of the kids who were 13 when 2021-22 school year began and turned 14 during school: born between September 2007-May 2008
A few kids who started 8th in 2021 at age 14 and turned 15 in spring of 2022: were born between April-June 2007

What is the age range? Oldest kids were born April 2007 (currently age 15), youngest in September 2008 (currently age 13). Are they 2 years apart in age? No. They are at most 17 months apart in age. Slight chance they could be 18 months apart (I’ve never heard of someone redshirting a March bday or even April but I’m being generous here).

Are there any kids who are 12 for more than a few weeks of 8th grade? No. Are there kids who are 15 for more than a few weeks of 8th? No.

The age range at any typical school is not 12-15. It’s a span of kids within about 16-18 months of age and they will be almost all be 13-14 for majority of 8th grade.

Stop exaggerating.

That's a two year age range. That is huge. It should be 12-14 months, 16 max.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

12-14 is a two year difference.

12-15 is a three year difference.

That is huge.

Wrong. At no point in time is there a three year difference.

It’s an 18 month MAX difference in age between the oldest spring redshirted kid and the very youngest September birthdays. The vast majority of kids are much closer in age than that.

Plus, spring redshirting is not common.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

12-14 is a two year difference.

12-15 is a three year difference.

That is huge.

These are kids in 8th grade: someone may be 12 when school starts in august but (if in NOVA where cut off is sept 1) they will turn 13 a couple weeks into school. Majority of 8th graders (anyone born between September 1-March/April and probably even through June/July in most schools) will be 13 turning 14 at some point in the school year or shortly after the school year finishes. There will be some outliers (kids with spring bdays who were held back/redshirted and will be 14 for most of 8th grade and then turn 15 at the end of the school year.)

So let’s look at the #s…

The few kids who started 8th in 2021 at age 12 and shortly after 8th began turned 13: were born in September 2008
Majority of the kids who were 13 when 2021-22 school year began and turned 14 during school: born between September 2007-May 2008
A few kids who started 8th in 2021 at age 14 and turned 15 in spring of 2022: were born between April-June 2007

What is the age range? Oldest kids were born April 2007 (currently age 15), youngest in September 2008 (currently age 13). Are they 2 years apart in age? No. They are at most 17 months apart in age. Slight chance they could be 18 months apart (I’ve never heard of someone redshirting a March bday or even April but I’m being generous here).

Are there any kids who are 12 for more than a few weeks of 8th grade? No. Are there kids who are 15 for more than a few weeks of 8th? No.

The age range at any typical school is not 12-15. It’s a span of kids within about 16-18 months of age and they will be almost all be 13-14 for majority of 8th grade.

Stop exaggerating.

That's a two year age range. That is huge. It should be 12-14 months, 16 max.

No, it’s not a “two year age range”. It’s a 17-18 month age range at the very most and that is very uncommon.

Sit TF down until you can do math or read.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Most 8th graders will turn 14 at some point during the year, and many will be almost 15 at the end of the school year. So it's not that big a difference. 14.5 is probably the norm.

It’s not a big deal at all. Anti-redshirters are just bad at math.

12-14 = age range with no redshirting (12 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-14 = age range with summer redshirting (15 months max age difference, most not that much)

12-15 = age range with spring redshirting (18 months max, most not that much — very uncommon)

Just to recap the numbers for the people who suck at math

It’s not a big deal.

12-14 is a two year difference.

12-15 is a three year difference.

That is huge.

Wrong. At no point in time is there a three year difference.

It’s an 18 month MAX difference in age between the oldest spring redshirted kid and the very youngest September birthdays. The vast majority of kids are much closer in age than that.

Plus, spring redshirting is not common.

Aprilon is common. Sometimes march.