| The Best Little Whore House in Texas |
| I think there is a difference between an entire movie that wouldn't get made today vs certain jokes within a movie that wouldn't make it past editing today. Not the same thing. Drop Dead Gorgeous could be made today it would just have a few lines changed. |
They made a teen movie about friends going on a road trip for an abortion called Unpregnant. They would make it today. |
DP. And I hate Bill Maher, but I am generally also like PP. VERY liberal, will never vote R. Think woke-ness has gone too far. Have a running joke with a group of politically active friends about wokeness actually. It feels a little self deprecating as we're all a little woke ourselves, but not woke enough according to some liberal groups I'm in! This all or nothing purity test is a real problem TBH. |
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I’m a huge classic movie buff and when I watch I really have to force myself to try to view it as a member of the audience in the time it was made or some of the greatest movies ever made are ruined- Gone With The Wind is a perfect example.
I also think/hope that if some class movies were made today the casting would be different. For example, Ben Kingsley is a fabulous actor, but Ghandi should absolutely have been played by an Indian actor. Baaically everyone besides Anna May Wong should never have been in the Good Earth etc. Some classics that I am glad were made and liked, but would never be made today. The Jazz Singer The General (one of the best silents ever and based on a true story, but it is uncomfortable that you root for Buster Keaton while he is helping the confederacy) Snow White Stage Coach Gone With The Wind The Searchers Some Like It Hot (one of my favorite movies, but absoulely would never be made today) |
Family guy is still going strong and so much more over the top in every way possible |
Ben Kingsley is half Indian. He just wasn’t born there. |
Decent amount of homophobia and slurs. |
| Risky Business |
I am a middle aged gen xer who has never voted for an R in my life, and I agree. We roll our eyes a fair amount at the strident kids. I guess overall better to swing too far toward wokeness than the other direction! But it feels quite oppressive - to them, to the world - sometimes. |
Yes, in context, I think the line is a send-up of all the discrimination and stereotypes that the kids face, and also of the human tendency to want to have someone that is lower on the power rung that you. So even if they are generally excluded from and despised by dominant male culture, at least they are not girls -- back in a time when throw like a girl was the worst insult you could give an ballplayer.. And of course they bring her in anyway, and she's fabulous, and makes them all stronger. It's really a beautiful story of society's downtrodden uniting to show the world that they are worth it, that they can compete, etc. But they are SUCH anti-heroes -- they are terrible winners, terrible losers, they sort of bully each other in that accepted 1970s way, and they low-key cheat in the game (vaseline on the cap). I love that they are not the "angels in the outfield" but I think that it does not fit neatly in the marketing categories that movie studios rely on today. Is it a movie for kids? Not really. Is it a movie for adults? Not really. I think that's what makes it really unmakeable today -- not so much the adult drinking beer with kids as the fact that we can't give kids a movie with such terrible role models. But Walter Matthau is chef's kiss perfect in this role -- it's maybe his best. And one of the best uses of classical music in a movie EVER. Can anyone in Gen-X hear Carmen and not think of the crack of a bat? I also think of this movie whenever people complain that a-hole parents at youth sports event are a recent phenomenon. We have cultural video that it was enough of a thing in the 70s that someone made a movie about it. |
I'll have to watch it again - I'm not remembering those at all. But that's not a first. |
This is PP. I didn't either when I watched it with my daughter, who is out. There were other moments of cringe when I said to her, "wow, I just didn't remember it being this cringeworthy" but it's still so damn funny. It honestly opened up good conversation of "not every joke is a slight." |
I mean, they did remake it in 2005. That's not "today" but it's not that long ago. |
| Blues Brothers. Would never get away with that today. |