Ethics of MCPS

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Except for the quantity of open investigations against MCPS from this past summer with the Department of Education Office of Civil Rights? MCPS was in the top-20 of # open investigations with the DoE OCR, so does that count?

Ranked #5 in # Disability Discrimination Open Investigations
Ranked #6 in # Sex Discrimination Open Investigations
Ranked #5 in # Race Discrimination Open Investigations

I found it so ironic that MCPS conducted discrimination surveys when all the had to do was look in the board's inbox.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

PR post?

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

+1 We filed state complaints because we understood the process. MSDE found multiple violations but gave the school a whole calendar year to provide compensatory services. How many hours thus far have been provided? 0. Luckily for my child, we started paying for private services. Since MCPS is having difficulty finding a provider for compensatory services we asked for reimbursement of private services. Thus far, $0 has been reimbursed.

MCPS is failing students with special needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

PR post?

Yep. MCPS PR is working overtime. Children don’t quickly recover from being denied services and accommodations for over a year. No parent in MCPS would praise the school system for watching students fall off a cliff during online learning then do nothing to help students recover.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

PR post?

Yep. MCPS PR is working overtime. Children don’t quickly recover from being denied services and accommodations for over a year. No parent in MCPS would praise the school system for watching students fall off a cliff during online learning then do nothing to help students recover.

This has nothing to do with Covid. It was happening long before.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

You were very lucky. We got told no and our smart kid was basically put in a special Ed class with kids with academic and behavioral issues and then ignored as they had very different needs. We had to fight to get out of that classroom and they refused any input from us or the private therapists and evaluators and refused to follow even the iep they wrote. So, we spent a fortune that we could not afford on private services. No, money to sue. You were very very lucky.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

MCPS needs new PR people. They constantly get the tone wrong. Anyone who has kids with special needs would not respond this way. Shows a gross lack of knowledge about what it means to need services. Insensitive, defensive, ignorant response.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

MCPS needs new PR people. They constantly get the tone wrong. Anyone who has kids with special needs would not respond this way. Shows a gross lack of knowledge about what it means to need services. Insensitive, defensive, ignorant response.

The fact that they have PR people posing as parents of students with special needs shows how untrustworthy MCPS is.

Special Education has never been great during the time my children have been MCPS students. However, since March 2020, there’s been an increase in unethical tactics by MCPS staff to deny students services and accommodations during online learning and deny compensatory services when students returned to in person learning. Students needed extra support to catch up to where they would have been. MCPS received ESSR funding to help with the task.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

MCPS needs new PR people. They constantly get the tone wrong. Anyone who has kids with special needs would not respond this way. Shows a gross lack of knowledge about what it means to need services. Insensitive, defensive, ignorant response.

I don't think it's fair to dismiss another persons experience when it diferes from yours. Personally, I suspect those making these negative posts are right-wing astroturfers. I don't know anyone in real life who says anything like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

+1 Public school families do not have unlimited financial resources. To legally fight MCPS, an entity with unlimited funds for legal fights, parents weigh the cost with the benefits. Often, the best course of action is paying for private services for our children.

It’s disgusting that MCPS doesn’t focus on the needs of the child. They fight to deny services and then when families prevail, MCPS struggles systemwide to implement IEPs.

Free routes for recourse is filing a state complaint or an OCR complaint. It doesn’t take a lawyer.

THe problem is with the massive 3X proliferation in private diagnosis that has plagued the upper-middle-class schools this past decade MCPS just doesn't have the resources to do this even if they wanted to. Something like 80% of my child's W feeder now has a 504 or IEP. They just can't keep up. Their budget is from the days when there were maybe 1 in30 kids not 25/30.

Please site your source because I believe you are spreading a false claim based on your personal implicit biases.

There’s no justification for a public school system to break the law and discriminate children with disabilities. That’s why there are Civil Rights Laws to protect students with disabilities.

There was an article in the NYT about this which was posted here a week or two agon.

Yes, the article documented the massive increase in private diagnosis at upper middle class schools over the past decade and their impact on student services.

The article did not have specific reference to MCPS or a specific school in MCPS. PP claimed 80% of child’s W feeder school has a 504 plan or an IEP. That’s not from the NYT article so I asked for the source. If none can be given then there’s no support for the false claim.

The NYT article did cite data showing a 300% increase in diagnosis in upper middle class schools over the past decade. I don't know anything about the PP's numbers. I figured it was hyperbole.

This is a MCPS thread. PP has no evidence of any percentage of students with disabilities who have 504 Plan and IEPs or any justification for the specific actions MCPS takes to deny students access to services and accommodations.

Students with disabilities deserve the accommodations and services they need for equal access to educational opportunities. The number of students who qualify for a 504 Plan or IEP is irrelevant.

Clearly you have a child with SN who very much needs services. Ours did. What MCPS provided was a joke. Our recourse was either to sue, which we couldn't afford to do or pay for private services. The only reason our child is doing as well they are is because of private services not MCPS. MCPS failed our child. Just because we didn't make a stink doesn't mean MCPS is good with kids like mine. It means we couldn't afford to sue so we quietly went away like they wanted.

MCPS rolled out the red carpet for us when we needed help. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience but for us they were awesome. They got our child back on track in no time.

MCPS needs new PR people. They constantly get the tone wrong. Anyone who has kids with special needs would not respond this way. Shows a gross lack of knowledge about what it means to need services. Insensitive, defensive, ignorant response.

The fact that they have PR people posing as parents of students with special needs shows how untrustworthy MCPS is.

Special Education has never been great during the time my children have been MCPS students. However, since March 2020, there’s been an increase in unethical tactics by MCPS staff to deny students services and accommodations during online learning and deny compensatory services when students returned to in person learning. Students needed extra support to catch up to where they would have been. MCPS received ESSR funding to help with the task.

Agree with the PP the PR people working for CATO are despicable since they're posting these fictions as parents to stir up trouble and resentment.

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Anonymous wrote:Because as the parent of a young special needs child we are not only exhausted all the time, we have spent nearly every penny and then some on private services to help our child. There is nothing left to give, not the time, energy or money.

Not to mention many special Ed students end up as single family households. Not all, so please don't jump down my throat. But the reality is, if you have money, you go private and get what your child needs. And if you don't have money, many of cannot add even one more thing to our plate. So we get what we get and try not to get to upset

Private schools require parents to pay for private evaluation and plenty of private services(tutoring, OG, specialists, etc.). Private school can be helpful because of the smaller size so there may be time & flexibility to focus on a student more individually. But, please understand they not change their class setup, curriculums, or go above the services they already have in place. They expect parents to pay privately for those extra needs/services. And if you don’t and your kid continues to struggle and its obvious they need more, you will kindly be counseled out.