Ethics of MCPS

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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.


That's crazy and my kids MCPS focus school there's only 16 kids in their class. You must go to one of the bad schools or something.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.


That's crazy and my kids MCPS focus school there's only 16 kids in their class. You must go to one of the bad schools or something.


No - 30+ students is a MCPS high school.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


The HVAC systems at many schools have always had this issue. This isn't anything new which is why many are upset that they spent the covid money on everything but school repairs.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.


That's crazy and my kids MCPS focus school there's only 16 kids in their class. You must go to one of the bad schools or something.


For ES, 16-22 is normal at a focus school for K-3 and 4-5 it can go up slightly. For MS and HS, it goes back to regular numbers and 30-35 per class is normal. My child was at a focus school and now at the Title One MS it is generally 35 kids per class.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.


In order to reduce class sizes, they'd have to bring in more portables or build more schools. But, agree much more can be done.
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.


In order to reduce class sizes, they'd have to bring in more portables or build more schools. But, agree much more can be done.


So the PP who was claiming enrollment was declining has been dismissed as another kook?
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


The HVAC systems at many schools have always had this issue. This isn't anything new which is why many are upset that they spent the covid money on everything but school repairs.


Wow you mean some schools have AC even?
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The proof of declining enrollment has already been sited in this thread. The discussion moved on to MCPS unethical waste of funds.

The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.


In order to reduce class sizes, they'd have to bring in more portables or build more schools. But, agree much more can be done.


So the PP who was claiming enrollment was declining has been dismissed as another kook?
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.


In order to reduce class sizes, they'd have to bring in more portables or build more schools. But, agree much more can be done.


So the PP who was claiming enrollment was declining has been dismissed as another kook?


The proof of declining enrollment has already been sited in this thread. The discussion moved on to MCPS unethical waste of funds.
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So 12 pages of posts and not a single instance of MCPS being unethical just a few anonymous personal anecdotes...
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Anonymous wrote:Over the past decade our school is gone from capacity to 20 something percent over capacity. It's really overcrowded. I wish more people would on enroll. They're just not building all these new schools like Woodward fast enough to deal with all the growth. I saw an ad from Blair the other day saying he wanted to build 30,000 more affordable housing units. All I could think about was do we have schools for all those new students?


During the pandemic, our W school brought in a bunch of portables. I guess because of the projected enrollment. They have sat empty for two years.


W's get all the resources.


You do realize each portable costs about $80,000 plus the cost of installation? And you do realize that portables have a history of growing mold that affects the health of teachers and students?

Such a waste. The money would have been better used fixing the HVAC in the school.


The HVAC has nothing to do with portables. The portables are about space and $80K isn't bad for the price.


MCPS is wasting over $80K a unit that isn't even in use? I hope that's reported to the Maryland IG.



Did they use it at one point?


What point would that have been? No need during FY21 because of online learning then hybrid learning the last quarter. They are not being used this year. So no, they have not been used for the two years they have been in place.

BTW the HVAC system is notoriously breaking down. Some classrooms are saunas while others are freezing. The lack of air filtration isn’t great when COVID is a problem in the school. Classes have about 32 students per class so more teachers (including substitutes when teachers are in quarantine) are all things money would be better spent on.


Saying they weren't used as schools were virtual is silly. Come MS and HS, 30+ students is normal at every school. If you want lower numbers in K-3rd, you need to go to a title one or focus school.


30+ students maybe normal in MCPS, however it’s not a best practice in teaching. Teachers are burning out and it’s impossible to meet the individual needs of students at 30+ students. This is especially true given gaps in learning many students have from online learning. MCPS is wasting tons of money instead of focusing on decreasing class sizes and services for students.


Agreed. Just because MCPS is forcing such large class sizes, does not mean it’s best for students. It’s actually terrible.

And also agree that MCPS wastes an incredible amount of money on initiatives that have very little benefit for students.


In order to reduce class sizes, they'd have to bring in more portables or build more schools. But, agree much more can be done.


So the PP who was claiming enrollment was declining has been dismissed as another kook?


The proof of declining enrollment has already been sited in this thread. The discussion moved on to MCPS unethical waste of funds.


It's declining so much they can't build new schools fast enough to keep up with the rate of growth! Sorry but your crazy fictions don't line up with reality the rest of us are living.
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