Where's Swami? We need a chances-of-getting-off-the-waitlist thread

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Anonymous wrote:PK3

Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.

If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.

This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.

NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.

I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!

People like you should stop trying to "help". Your arguments are weak and you come off like an entitled d-bag. And that's coming from someone who in part agrees with you!

*The amount of money you pay in taxes has nothing to do with the quality of city services you personally receive. That line is straight out of the "HOw to be a d-bag book, Chapter 1"

*Your analogs are nonsense and red herrings. No one said don't use sanitation, they said you get what the city provides. If you want garbage picked up daily that's something you have to pay for. You get the fire department when you call 911, but you don't have a right to a firehouse next door and you don't get to prioritize your access over your neighbors. You get to call 911 and ask for the police. But if you want 24/7/365 security on your own terms that's going to be on your dime. You can of course use the public pool, but you wait in line on busy days just like everyone else and you don't have a right to a public pool on your block. I could go on and on tearing apart your silly analogs but you get the point, I think.

Very well said. Absolutely no one is saying you aren't entitled to PK in DC, simply that if you want to take advantage of the universal PK program, you need to be willing to have some flexibility as to where your child goes.

We did PK in DCPS and went to our IB for PK3. We are in one of the handful of school boundaries where this is actually guaranteed (Title 1 school), but since this school never has a waitlist, the guarantee is not actually necessary.

Well our child's teacher quit one month into the school year and even subs were scarce so our kid wound up in a combined classroom with the other PK class for a time (they had two aides to deal with the overflow, but it was a mess).

We lotteried into a nearby DCPS the following year (also a Title 1) and have been there since. It's a much more stable school and still allows us to walk there, which helps a lot since my DH has a long commute which means pick up/drop off is mostly on me and I don't have access to a car most days.

We are not poor, for the record. Middle class (HHI of 100-120k depending on the year). We've paid taxes in the district for 20+ years.

The idea that someone in NW is angry about not getting a spot at in PK at their nearby elementary, which I am certain has a very well-funded PTO and high test scores, when they no doubt have access to a half dozen other public PKs near their home or work (and live in an area dense with public transportation options), because they PAY TAXES is revolting. Crazy how many people acting like petulant children are trying to raise children in this city.

I don't understand these posts. The OP doesn't seem angry at all about not getting a spot. Disappointed maybe, but she clearly just expressed that it was frustrating that her IB had PK3 until recently and now doesn't and is asking her chances of getting off the WL. Someone basically said she shouldn't even be taking up spots on the WL because the spots should not go to someone who can afford to live IB for HA. Which is just bull and not how it works- PK3 is not means tested in this city. She didn't come on and put in her initial post that she paid X amount in taxes over the years so she should get a spot. It was in response to someone saying she shouldn't even be on the WL because of her income.

Also it is true that the amount paid in taxes doesn't directly correlate to what you get back in services but people absolutely stay in DC and pay taxes partly because they want to get PK3 spots. This is a benefit that DC gets- would be hard to measure if it is a net benefit to DC or not but there are certainly people who might have otherwise moved when their kids were 1 who stay a few extra years to get the pK3 so DC gets that much more tax revenue before the kid is PK 3 eligible.

People who think that someone who is eligible for a non means-tested city service shouldn't take advantage of that service are the real DBs here.

You need to stop "helping" too! I disagree with people who believe that people who can afford private PS should not take available spots in the PS lottery. I understand their reasoning but I fundamentally disagree with it. Having different priorities or beliefs doesn't make them d-bags. It makes them someone who has different beliefs. That is not remotely the same as someone who goes straight to how much they pay in taxes to argue why they deserve something. I would also note your head fake towards acknowledging the absurdity of referencing income taxes paid as a measure of what one is "entitled to" but then turning right back around and arguing some version of a net benefit analysis that very much embraces the "I pay $X in taxes" argument. It's like a backdoor d-bag move - very advanced!

I will make this easy for you. The amount of money you pay in taxes (or don't) has no bearing on the allocation of public education. FULL STOP.

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Anonymous wrote:PK3

Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.

If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.

This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.

NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.

I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!

People like you should stop trying to "help". Your arguments are weak and you come off like an entitled d-bag. And that's coming from someone who in part agrees with you!

*The amount of money you pay in taxes has nothing to do with the quality of city services you personally receive. That line is straight out of the "HOw to be a d-bag book, Chapter 1"

*Your analogs are nonsense and red herrings. No one said don't use sanitation, they said you get what the city provides. If you want garbage picked up daily that's something you have to pay for. You get the fire department when you call 911, but you don't have a right to a firehouse next door and you don't get to prioritize your access over your neighbors. You get to call 911 and ask for the police. But if you want 24/7/365 security on your own terms that's going to be on your dime. You can of course use the public pool, but you wait in line on busy days just like everyone else and you don't have a right to a public pool on your block. I could go on and on tearing apart your silly analogs but you get the point, I think.

Very well said. Absolutely no one is saying you aren't entitled to PK in DC, simply that if you want to take advantage of the universal PK program, you need to be willing to have some flexibility as to where your child goes.

We did PK in DCPS and went to our IB for PK3. We are in one of the handful of school boundaries where this is actually guaranteed (Title 1 school), but since this school never has a waitlist, the guarantee is not actually necessary.

Well our child's teacher quit one month into the school year and even subs were scarce so our kid wound up in a combined classroom with the other PK class for a time (they had two aides to deal with the overflow, but it was a mess).

We lotteried into a nearby DCPS the following year (also a Title 1) and have been there since. It's a much more stable school and still allows us to walk there, which helps a lot since my DH has a long commute which means pick up/drop off is mostly on me and I don't have access to a car most days.

We are not poor, for the record. Middle class (HHI of 100-120k depending on the year). We've paid taxes in the district for 20+ years.

The idea that someone in NW is angry about not getting a spot at in PK at their nearby elementary, which I am certain has a very well-funded PTO and high test scores, when they no doubt have access to a half dozen other public PKs near their home or work (and live in an area dense with public transportation options), because they PAY TAXES is revolting. Crazy how many people acting like petulant children are trying to raise children in this city.

You have a chip on your shoulder.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PK3

Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.

If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.

This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.

NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.

I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!

People like you should stop trying to "help". Your arguments are weak and you come off like an entitled d-bag. And that's coming from someone who in part agrees with you!

*The amount of money you pay in taxes has nothing to do with the quality of city services you personally receive. That line is straight out of the "HOw to be a d-bag book, Chapter 1"

*Your analogs are nonsense and red herrings. No one said don't use sanitation, they said you get what the city provides. If you want garbage picked up daily that's something you have to pay for. You get the fire department when you call 911, but you don't have a right to a firehouse next door and you don't get to prioritize your access over your neighbors. You get to call 911 and ask for the police. But if you want 24/7/365 security on your own terms that's going to be on your dime. You can of course use the public pool, but you wait in line on busy days just like everyone else and you don't have a right to a public pool on your block. I could go on and on tearing apart your silly analogs but you get the point, I think.

Very well said. Absolutely no one is saying you aren't entitled to PK in DC, simply that if you want to take advantage of the universal PK program, you need to be willing to have some flexibility as to where your child goes.

We did PK in DCPS and went to our IB for PK3. We are in one of the handful of school boundaries where this is actually guaranteed (Title 1 school), but since this school never has a waitlist, the guarantee is not actually necessary.

Well our child's teacher quit one month into the school year and even subs were scarce so our kid wound up in a combined classroom with the other PK class for a time (they had two aides to deal with the overflow, but it was a mess).

We lotteried into a nearby DCPS the following year (also a Title 1) and have been there since. It's a much more stable school and still allows us to walk there, which helps a lot since my DH has a long commute which means pick up/drop off is mostly on me and I don't have access to a car most days.

We are not poor, for the record. Middle class (HHI of 100-120k depending on the year). We've paid taxes in the district for 20+ years.

The idea that someone in NW is angry about not getting a spot at in PK at their nearby elementary, which I am certain has a very well-funded PTO and high test scores, when they no doubt have access to a half dozen other public PKs near their home or work (and live in an area dense with public transportation options), because they PAY TAXES is revolting. Crazy how many people acting like petulant children are trying to raise children in this city.

I don't understand these posts. The OP doesn't seem angry at all about not getting a spot. Disappointed maybe, but she clearly just expressed that it was frustrating that her IB had PK3 until recently and now doesn't and is asking her chances of getting off the WL. Someone basically said she shouldn't even be taking up spots on the WL because the spots should not go to someone who can afford to live IB for HA. Which is just bull and not how it works- PK3 is not means tested in this city. She didn't come on and put in her initial post that she paid X amount in taxes over the years so she should get a spot. It was in response to someone saying she shouldn't even be on the WL because of her income.

Also it is true that the amount paid in taxes doesn't directly correlate to what you get back in services but people absolutely stay in DC and pay taxes partly because they want to get PK3 spots. This is a benefit that DC gets- would be hard to measure if it is a net benefit to DC or not but there are certainly people who might have otherwise moved when their kids were 1 who stay a few extra years to get the pK3 so DC gets that much more tax revenue before the kid is PK 3 eligible.

People who think that someone who is eligible for a non means-tested city service shouldn't take advantage of that service are the real DBs here.

You need to stop "helping" too! I disagree with people who believe that people who can afford private PS should not take available spots in the PS lottery. I understand their reasoning but I fundamentally disagree with it. Having different priorities or beliefs doesn't make them d-bags. It makes them someone who has different beliefs. That is not remotely the same as someone who goes straight to how much they pay in taxes to argue why they deserve something. I would also note your head fake towards acknowledging the absurdity of referencing income taxes paid as a measure of what one is "entitled to" but then turning right back around and arguing some version of a net benefit analysis that very much embraces the "I pay $X in taxes" argument. It's like a backdoor d-bag move - very advanced!

I will make this easy for you. The amount of money you pay in taxes (or don't) has no bearing on the allocation of public education. FULL STOP.

I am the PP you are responding to and you are correct, I should not have called people with different beliefs than me DBs and I apologize for that.

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We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

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Anonymous wrote:We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

Seems pretty likely! 5th is a big movement grade for ITDS, with families moving to Basis or Latin if they can to secure a HS path. No idea how many offers have already been made. If you get in, one of the most beloved elementary teachers is moving up to teach 5/6 math and he's awesome!

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Anonymous wrote:We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

Seems pretty likely! 5th is a big movement grade for ITDS, with families moving to Basis or Latin if they can to secure a HS path. No idea how many offers have already been made. If you get in, one of the most beloved elementary teachers is moving up to teach 5/6 math and he's awesome!

It seems extremely likely that you will get in. But ITS moves its list kind of late in the summer and I've never been sure why. Enjoy Mr. Excellent Math Teacher, he's so much fun and really makes the kids love math.

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Anonymous wrote:We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

Seems pretty likely! 5th is a big movement grade for ITDS, with families moving to Basis or Latin if they can to secure a HS path. No idea how many offers have already been made. If you get in, one of the most beloved elementary teachers is moving up to teach 5/6 math and he's awesome!

It seems extremely likely that you will get in. But ITS moves its list kind of late in the summer and I've never been sure why. Enjoy Mr. Excellent Math Teacher, he's so much fun and really makes the kids love math.

YES! We met him on a tour (though going elsewhere now), and he was wonderful. My DS was ready to register after talking to him and the ELA teacher (though she's promoted to admin next year).

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Anonymous wrote:We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

You'll definitely get in. Most the class is heading to Latin 1, 2 or BASIS

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Anonymous wrote:We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

You'll definitely get in. Most the class is heading to Latin 1, 2 or BASIS

Why are so many people leaving? I would totally leave for Latin I, but I don't think Latin 2 is anything so special.

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Anonymous wrote:We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

You'll definitely get in. Most the class is heading to Latin 1, 2 or BASIS

Why are so many people leaving? I would totally leave for Latin I, but I don't think Latin 2 is anything so special.

I'd say most is an overstatement. But there is always a big shift going to 5th largely because people want a HS track or a larger middle school experience.

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Anonymous wrote:We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

You'll definitely get in. Most the class is heading to Latin 1, 2 or BASIS

Why are so many people leaving? I would totally leave for Latin I, but I don't think Latin 2 is anything so special.

I'd say most is an overstatement. But there is always a big shift going to 5th largely because people want a HS track or a larger middle school experience.

I know, but it seems like an awful lot this year. And I'm surprised that many people are interested in Latin II, since their location isn't permanent.

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Anonymous wrote:We are now #3 on ITS for 5th - Will this really happen?

You'll definitely get in. Most the class is heading to Latin 1, 2 or BASIS

I adore posts like this. Between this and the Brent and Maury families who seem to think Latin and Basis are their birthright there would need to be 600 slots open in 5th at those schools.

Some ITS rising 5th graders will depart for Latin and Basis because some of rising 5th graders depart all schools for those places. Most will not. Were I someone hoping to get in I would actually hope that PP had either already left or was leaving for Latin/Basis; I wouldn't want them in the community when I arrived.

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OP with the ITS question - thank you for the very good vibes!!!