Where's Swami? We need a chances-of-getting-off-the-waitlist thread

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And even if she had, what would be bad about wanting a PK3 spot at your IB school? How about we have better expectations? We spend a tremendous amount of money on our school system - we should expect it to meet the needs of everyone it serves.
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Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.


If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.


This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.


NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.


I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!


This freaking board, I swear.

No one said you aren't entitled to universal PK in DC. But you are not entitled to universal PK at your IB school. No one is. You don't hear people whining about stuff like this in working class and poor neighborhoods in this city because people recognize that "free" pretty much never means "ideal, convenient, and exactly what you were expecting." Sorry not sorry. If you even knew people who lived in the parts of this city where it is hard to find a functional ES at all, you might realize how entitled you sound.

Oh, and the amount of taxes you pay has ZERO relevance to your entitlement to a public PK, the fact that you think so is indicative of how entitled you are. You could be a lifelong Washingtonian whose family had paid millions in taxes to the city and donated half your estate to DCPS and you would still be no more entitled to a convenient public PK than anyone else. If you want to swing your wallet around and see people jump, you are MORE than welcome go to private school or decamp for Virginia where taxes are lower but there's no universal PK. Best of luck to you.


Wow, I’m really enjoying my time living in your head rent-free.

I merely said I was disappointed that our local ended PK3 the very year we needed it. I absolutely knew it was a crap shoot in the lottery, as H-A has had a waitlist for inbound kids without siblings for PK3. We are eager to join the H-A community, so it was a big let down to get the email in December that H-A was nixing PK3 for another class at a higher level.

Anonymous
Despite these good numbers, I think our chances are pretty slim for a 4th grade spot. Right?

Hearst #7
Shepherd #3
Murch #6
Lafayette #4
Janney #9
Eaton #3
Mann #2
Stoddert #6
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Despite these good numbers, I think our chances are pretty slim for a 4th grade spot. Right?

Hearst #7
Shepherd #3
Murch #6
Lafayette #4
Janney #9
Eaton #3
Mann #2
Stoddert #6


Eaton or Shepherd are possible. Others probably not.
Anonymous
What about #4 for Shepherd - Kindergarten
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Despite these good numbers, I think our chances are pretty slim for a 4th grade spot. Right?

Hearst #7
Shepherd #3
Murch #6
Lafayette #4
Janney #9
Eaton #3
Mann #2
Stoddert #6


Eaton or Shepherd are possible. Others probably not.


Mann’s waiting list is flying. I assume she’s already in there by now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Despite these good numbers, I think our chances are pretty slim for a 4th grade spot. Right?

Hearst #7
Shepherd #3
Murch #6
Lafayette #4
Janney #9
Eaton #3
Mann #2
Stoddert #6


Eaton or Shepherd are possible. Others probably not.


Mann’s waiting list is flying. I assume she’s already in there by now.


I know a number of families leaving Mann for private. Sounds like Janney upper grades too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PK3

Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.


If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.


This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.


NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.


I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!


This freaking board, I swear.

No one said you aren't entitled to universal PK in DC. But you are not entitled to universal PK at your IB school. No one is. You don't hear people whining about stuff like this in working class and poor neighborhoods in this city because people recognize that "free" pretty much never means "ideal, convenient, and exactly what you were expecting." Sorry not sorry. If you even knew people who lived in the parts of this city where it is hard to find a functional ES at all, you might realize how entitled you sound.

Oh, and the amount of taxes you pay has ZERO relevance to your entitlement to a public PK, the fact that you think so is indicative of how entitled you are. You could be a lifelong Washingtonian whose family had paid millions in taxes to the city and donated half your estate to DCPS and you would still be no more entitled to a convenient public PK than anyone else. If you want to swing your wallet around and see people jump, you are MORE than welcome go to private school or decamp for Virginia where taxes are lower but there's no universal PK. Best of luck to you.


Wow, I’m really enjoying my time living in your head rent-free.

I merely said I was disappointed that our local ended PK3 the very year we needed it. I absolutely knew it was a crap shoot in the lottery, as H-A has had a waitlist for inbound kids without siblings for PK3. We are eager to join the H-A community, so it was a big let down to get the email in December that H-A was nixing PK3 for another class at a higher level.



That is disappointing, but once you join H-A, you can be thankful to have smaller class sizes. Lucky you!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Despite these good numbers, I think our chances are pretty slim for a 4th grade spot. Right?

Hearst #7
Shepherd #3
Murch #6
Lafayette #4
Janney #9
Eaton #3
Mann #2
Stoddert #6


Eaton or Shepherd are possible. Others probably not.


Mann’s waiting list is flying. I assume she’s already in there by now.


I know a number of families leaving Mann for private. Sounds like Janney upper grades too.


Why wouldn't these people chose Deal? Isn't that the crown jewel of middle schools?
Anonymous
H-A makes me think of Hay Adams. Or Holton Arms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PK3

Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.


If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.


This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.


NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.


I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!


People like you should stop trying to "help". Your arguments are weak and you come off like an entitled d-bag. And that's coming from someone who in part agrees with you!

*The amount of money you pay in taxes has nothing to do with the quality of city services you personally receive. That line is straight out of the "HOw to be a d-bag book, Chapter 1"

*Your analogs are nonsense and red herrings. No one said don't use sanitation, they said you get what the city provides. If you want garbage picked up daily that's something you have to pay for. You get the fire department when you call 911, but you don't have a right to a firehouse next door and you don't get to prioritize your access over your neighbors. You get to call 911 and ask for the police. But if you want 24/7/365 security on your own terms that's going to be on your dime. You can of course use the public pool, but you wait in line on busy days just like everyone else and you don't have a right to a public pool on your block. I could go on and on tearing apart your silly analogs but you get the point, I think.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PK3

Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.


If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.


This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.


NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.


I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!


People like you should stop trying to "help". Your arguments are weak and you come off like an entitled d-bag. And that's coming from someone who in part agrees with you!

*The amount of money you pay in taxes has nothing to do with the quality of city services you personally receive. That line is straight out of the "HOw to be a d-bag book, Chapter 1"

*Your analogs are nonsense and red herrings. No one said don't use sanitation, they said you get what the city provides. If you want garbage picked up daily that's something you have to pay for. You get the fire department when you call 911, but you don't have a right to a firehouse next door and you don't get to prioritize your access over your neighbors. You get to call 911 and ask for the police. But if you want 24/7/365 security on your own terms that's going to be on your dime. You can of course use the public pool, but you wait in line on busy days just like everyone else and you don't have a right to a public pool on your block. I could go on and on tearing apart your silly analogs but you get the point, I think.


Very well said. Absolutely no one is saying you aren't entitled to PK in DC, simply that if you want to take advantage of the universal PK program, you need to be willing to have some flexibility as to where your child goes.

We did PK in DCPS and went to our IB for PK3. We are in one of the handful of school boundaries where this is actually guaranteed (Title 1 school), but since this school never has a waitlist, the guarantee is not actually necessary.

Well our child's teacher quit one month into the school year and even subs were scarce so our kid wound up in a combined classroom with the other PK class for a time (they had two aides to deal with the overflow, but it was a mess).

We lotteried into a nearby DCPS the following year (also a Title 1) and have been there since. It's a much more stable school and still allows us to walk there, which helps a lot since my DH has a long commute which means pick up/drop off is mostly on me and I don't have access to a car most days.

We are not poor, for the record. Middle class (HHI of 100-120k depending on the year). We've paid taxes in the district for 20+ years.

The idea that someone in NW is angry about not getting a spot at in PK at their nearby elementary, which I am certain has a very well-funded PTO and high test scores, when they no doubt have access to a half dozen other public PKs near their home or work (and live in an area dense with public transportation options), because they PAY TAXES is revolting. Crazy how many people acting like petulant children are trying to raise children in this city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PK3

Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.


If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.


This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.


NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.


I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!


People like you should stop trying to "help". Your arguments are weak and you come off like an entitled d-bag. And that's coming from someone who in part agrees with you!

*The amount of money you pay in taxes has nothing to do with the quality of city services you personally receive. That line is straight out of the "HOw to be a d-bag book, Chapter 1"

*Your analogs are nonsense and red herrings. No one said don't use sanitation, they said you get what the city provides. If you want garbage picked up daily that's something you have to pay for. You get the fire department when you call 911, but you don't have a right to a firehouse next door and you don't get to prioritize your access over your neighbors. You get to call 911 and ask for the police. But if you want 24/7/365 security on your own terms that's going to be on your dime. You can of course use the public pool, but you wait in line on busy days just like everyone else and you don't have a right to a public pool on your block. I could go on and on tearing apart your silly analogs but you get the point, I think.


Very well said. Absolutely no one is saying you aren't entitled to PK in DC, simply that if you want to take advantage of the universal PK program, you need to be willing to have some flexibility as to where your child goes.

We did PK in DCPS and went to our IB for PK3. We are in one of the handful of school boundaries where this is actually guaranteed (Title 1 school), but since this school never has a waitlist, the guarantee is not actually necessary.

Well our child's teacher quit one month into the school year and even subs were scarce so our kid wound up in a combined classroom with the other PK class for a time (they had two aides to deal with the overflow, but it was a mess).

We lotteried into a nearby DCPS the following year (also a Title 1) and have been there since. It's a much more stable school and still allows us to walk there, which helps a lot since my DH has a long commute which means pick up/drop off is mostly on me and I don't have access to a car most days.

We are not poor, for the record. Middle class (HHI of 100-120k depending on the year). We've paid taxes in the district for 20+ years.

The idea that someone in NW is angry about not getting a spot at in PK at their nearby elementary, which I am certain has a very well-funded PTO and high test scores, when they no doubt have access to a half dozen other public PKs near their home or work (and live in an area dense with public transportation options), because they PAY TAXES is revolting. Crazy how many people acting like petulant children are trying to raise children in this city.


I don't understand these posts. The OP doesn't seem angry at all about not getting a spot. Disappointed maybe, but she clearly just expressed that it was frustrating that her IB had PK3 until recently and now doesn't and is asking her chances of getting off the WL. Someone basically said she shouldn't even be taking up spots on the WL because the spots should not go to someone who can afford to live IB for HA. Which is just bull and not how it works- PK3 is not means tested in this city. She didn't come on and put in her initial post that she paid X amount in taxes over the years so she should get a spot. It was in response to someone saying she shouldn't even be on the WL because of her income.

Also it is true that the amount paid in taxes doesn't directly correlate to what you get back in services but people absolutely stay in DC and pay taxes partly because they want to get PK3 spots. This is a benefit that DC gets- would be hard to measure if it is a net benefit to DC or not but there are certainly people who might have otherwise moved when their kids were 1 who stay a few extra years to get the pK3 so DC gets that much more tax revenue before the kid is PK 3 eligible.

People who think that someone who is eligible for a non means-tested city service shouldn't take advantage of that service are the real DBs here.
Anonymous
And of course H-A now has PK3 again, so there's that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PK3

Stevens Early Learning Center - #60
Thomson Elementary School - #16

These are near our offices, so that's why we like them. We live in-bounds for Hyde-Addison, majorly annoyed they removed PK3 right when we needed it

Matched at Meridian PCS. Still waiting to hear back from Communikids, Rosemount, and Kiddie Academy on their separate lotteries.


If you live IB for Hyde-Addison you don't need free PK (you want it), meanwhile you have matched for preK in a neighborhood where more kids actually need it.


This isn't a thread for being judgey-judys.


NP. Perhaps not but this is such a permanent pet peeve of mine in these lottery threads that I personally support the call out. No one feels sorry for people like this and they need to learn to stop trying to seek sympathy on these boards for this situation. It's so tiresome. Universal PK was not adopted in DC in order to make sure families IB for Hyde-Addison would have an easy commute for free PK. This is not a real problem, just an inconvenience for people who can afford to pay to make inconveniences go away.


I've paid $120K+ in city taxes over the past 12 years to the District. GTFOOH for trying to shame any of us from using a very valuable service - pre-K - offered by our city government. Should I not use municipal sanitation? Should I not call the police or fire department? What about speech therapy offered by the District to my toddler? Should we be forced to avoid the public parks and programming? Can I not use the public pool if I can afford a private pool club in the suburbs?

Please list out the services and income thresholds for various services offered by the District, to ensure I don't run afoul of your views. Thx!


People like you should stop trying to "help". Your arguments are weak and you come off like an entitled d-bag. And that's coming from someone who in part agrees with you!

*The amount of money you pay in taxes has nothing to do with the quality of city services you personally receive. That line is straight out of the "HOw to be a d-bag book, Chapter 1"

*Your analogs are nonsense and red herrings. No one said don't use sanitation, they said you get what the city provides. If you want garbage picked up daily that's something you have to pay for. You get the fire department when you call 911, but you don't have a right to a firehouse next door and you don't get to prioritize your access over your neighbors. You get to call 911 and ask for the police. But if you want 24/7/365 security on your own terms that's going to be on your dime. You can of course use the public pool, but you wait in line on busy days just like everyone else and you don't have a right to a public pool on your block. I could go on and on tearing apart your silly analogs but you get the point, I think.


Very well said. Absolutely no one is saying you aren't entitled to PK in DC, simply that if you want to take advantage of the universal PK program, you need to be willing to have some flexibility as to where your child goes.

We did PK in DCPS and went to our IB for PK3. We are in one of the handful of school boundaries where this is actually guaranteed (Title 1 school), but since this school never has a waitlist, the guarantee is not actually necessary.

Well our child's teacher quit one month into the school year and even subs were scarce so our kid wound up in a combined classroom with the other PK class for a time (they had two aides to deal with the overflow, but it was a mess).

We lotteried into a nearby DCPS the following year (also a Title 1) and have been there since. It's a much more stable school and still allows us to walk there, which helps a lot since my DH has a long commute which means pick up/drop off is mostly on me and I don't have access to a car most days.

We are not poor, for the record. Middle class (HHI of 100-120k depending on the year). We've paid taxes in the district for 20+ years.

The idea that someone in NW is angry about not getting a spot at in PK at their nearby elementary, which I am certain has a very well-funded PTO and high test scores, when they no doubt have access to a half dozen other public PKs near their home or work (and live in an area dense with public transportation options), because they PAY TAXES is revolting. Crazy how many people acting like petulant children are trying to raise children in this city.


I don't understand these posts. The OP doesn't seem angry at all about not getting a spot. Disappointed maybe, but she clearly just expressed that it was frustrating that her IB had PK3 until recently and now doesn't and is asking her chances of getting off the WL. Someone basically said she shouldn't even be taking up spots on the WL because the spots should not go to someone who can afford to live IB for HA. Which is just bull and not how it works- PK3 is not means tested in this city. She didn't come on and put in her initial post that she paid X amount in taxes over the years so she should get a spot. It was in response to someone saying she shouldn't even be on the WL because of her income.

Also it is true that the amount paid in taxes doesn't directly correlate to what you get back in services but people absolutely stay in DC and pay taxes partly because they want to get PK3 spots. This is a benefit that DC gets- would be hard to measure if it is a net benefit to DC or not but there are certainly people who might have otherwise moved when their kids were 1 who stay a few extra years to get the pK3 so DC gets that much more tax revenue before the kid is PK 3 eligible.

People who think that someone who is eligible for a non means-tested city service shouldn't take advantage of that service are the real DBs here.


Disagree with your characterization. The OP absolutely was complaining -- she said she was "majorly annoyed" that H-A ended PK3 "when we need it." That's whining. And the criticism was mild and did not in any way say she shouldn't be taking up a WL spot -- just pointing out that many of the kids on the WL for the same schools likely have very limited options for PK and much fewer resources. No one said OP shouldn't get a spot at those other PKs, only pointing out that many, many families are in tougher circumstances than she is and don't even have access to a strong IB elementary after PK. A little perspective.

Her decision to go straight to "I've paid X amount of taxes in this city!" in response to having this pointed out to her reflects and extremely entitled attitude and the pile on is absolutely merited. In a few months the OP's kid will be happily enrolled either at one of these public options or attending a private PK and this will all be a non-issue. Absolutely no reason to throw around her income like it's even remotely relevant to this conversation. It's not.
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