Teacher slaps student

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not condoning what the teacher did, but teachers (and I am not one) have paid the price for parents not parenting their kids during the pandemic.

I have empathy for the teacher, empathy for the teen, but likely very little for the teen's parents/guardians.

Or maybe you are seeing kids suffering the mental health impacts of the pandemic. Please stop blaming parents for all ‘bad behavior.’

Um, no. It's parents.

As a 6th grade middle school teacher, I see the direct results of lazy parenting each year. ES parents don't make their kids do any homework and are used to being able to strongarm the teachers into good grades. It doesn't work in middle school. I don't give a bunch of homework but when I give it, I expect it to be completed. Even though this is expressed to parents and students in a variety of different ways, after the first midterm grades come out, I always have some students and parents who are dumbfounded at how their kid has a bad grade.

Also, the way kids speak to teachers these days is insane. And why? Because they know there are no consequences.

The pandemic showed the US that 99.9% of parents view teachers as babysitters and nothing more.

This is my last year of teaching and I can't wait to never have to deal with a shitty parent again.

I am not a lazy parent but my child wont be doing elementary school homework. Especially not in K-2nd grade, around age 8 Ill start enforcing. If he wants to do it because its fun so be it but there is no reason he needs to spend 30-45 min doing homework at age 6. None. We can play word games, license plate games while driving for state capitals, cook/bake to work with fractions, read multiple books at night, etc.

It is engagement not homework that matters.

These items aside there is nothing my child could say to a teacher for me to accept that they were struck. Nothing. Teachers are adults. They can control themselves. Children are children and impulsive and testing boundaries and he would be punished at home (a LOT) but physical battery on behalf of the teacher is not acceptable.

Are you serious? You need to make sure your child does the required work. You are just what the teachers encounter - LAZY- and clueless.
Yes homework also matters!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not condoning what the teacher did, but teachers (and I am not one) have paid the price for parents not parenting their kids during the pandemic.

I have empathy for the teacher, empathy for the teen, but likely very little for the teen's parents/guardians.

Or maybe you are seeing kids suffering the mental health impacts of the pandemic. Please stop blaming parents for all ‘bad behavior.’

Um, no. It's parents.

As a 6th grade middle school teacher, I see the direct results of lazy parenting each year. ES parents don't make their kids do any homework and are used to being able to strongarm the teachers into good grades. It doesn't work in middle school. I don't give a bunch of homework but when I give it, I expect it to be completed. Even though this is expressed to parents and students in a variety of different ways, after the first midterm grades come out, I always have some students and parents who are dumbfounded at how their kid has a bad grade.

Also, the way kids speak to teachers these days is insane. And why? Because they know there are no consequences.

The pandemic showed the US that 99.9% of parents view teachers as babysitters and nothing more.

This is my last year of teaching and I can't wait to never have to deal with a shitty parent again.

Yes. Look at the idiotic post above of that shitty parent. Many out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not condoning what the teacher did, but teachers (and I am not one) have paid the price for parents not parenting their kids during the pandemic.

I have empathy for the teacher, empathy for the teen, but likely very little for the teen's parents/guardians.

Or maybe you are seeing kids suffering the mental health impacts of the pandemic. Please stop blaming parents for all ‘bad behavior.’

Um, no. It's parents.

As a 6th grade middle school teacher, I see the direct results of lazy parenting each year. ES parents don't make their kids do any homework and are used to being able to strongarm the teachers into good grades. It doesn't work in middle school. I don't give a bunch of homework but when I give it, I expect it to be completed. Even though this is expressed to parents and students in a variety of different ways, after the first midterm grades come out, I always have some students and parents who are dumbfounded at how their kid has a bad grade.

Also, the way kids speak to teachers these days is insane. And why? Because they know there are no consequences.

The pandemic showed the US that 99.9% of parents view teachers as babysitters and nothing more.

This is my last year of teaching and I can't wait to never have to deal with a shitty parent again.

I am not a lazy parent but my child wont be doing elementary school homework. Especially not in K-2nd grade, around age 8 Ill start enforcing. If he wants to do it because its fun so be it but there is no reason he needs to spend 30-45 min doing homework at age 6. None. We can play word games, license plate games while driving for state capitals, cook/bake to work with fractions, read multiple books at night, etc.

It is engagement not homework that matters.

These items aside there is nothing my child could say to a teacher for me to accept that they were struck. Nothing. Teachers are adults. They can control themselves. Children are children and impulsive and testing boundaries and he would be punished at home (a LOT) but physical battery on behalf of the teacher is not acceptable.

Are you serious? You need to make sure your child does the required work. You are just what the teachers encounter - LAZY- and clueless.
Yes homework also matters!!!

No I wont enforce homework in elementary school that has not shown to directly correlate with improved outcomes in areas without deficits. You seem to think that you are the only individuals in charge of children's education but that isn't the case with engaged parents. Teachers are responsible for educating students inside school. Parents are responsible for educating outside of school with items like how to cook, chores and responsibilities, exploring nature (learning about seasons/plants/wildlife), engaging in coordinated and non-coordinated physical activity, playing with friends, riding bikes, swimming, etc. If there are deficits we will address them but I will not enforce 30-min of homework for a 2nd grader when they are in school from 8-3 5 days a week. The rest of the time they can focus on their interests whether it be airplanes, legos, robotics, reading sci-fi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It look like the kid said something bad to the teacher. While he shouldn't have slapped the brat it was obvious he purposely fell to the ground to stop him from taking him to the principals office. And to invoke drama and sympathy, lol There is probably a bigger problem with this kid, and the parents. Glad he's retiring with full benefits.

I hope the violoent piece of sh*t enjoys his jail cell. You people blaming the kid suck.

The kid sucks. There is just so long before you get your due-right or wrong.

You are vile and disgusting you uneducated cretin. No child deserves that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not condoning what the teacher did, but teachers (and I am not one) have paid the price for parents not parenting their kids during the pandemic.

I have empathy for the teacher, empathy for the teen, but likely very little for the teen's parents/guardians.

Or maybe you are seeing kids suffering the mental health impacts of the pandemic. Please stop blaming parents for all ‘bad behavior.’

Um, no. It's parents.

As a 6th grade middle school teacher, I see the direct results of lazy parenting each year. ES parents don't make their kids do any homework and are used to being able to strongarm the teachers into good grades. It doesn't work in middle school. I don't give a bunch of homework but when I give it, I expect it to be completed. Even though this is expressed to parents and students in a variety of different ways, after the first midterm grades come out, I always have some students and parents who are dumbfounded at how their kid has a bad grade.

Also, the way kids speak to teachers these days is insane. And why? Because they know there are no consequences.

The pandemic showed the US that 99.9% of parents view teachers as babysitters and nothing more.

This is my last year of teaching and I can't wait to never have to deal with a shitty parent again.

I am not a lazy parent but my child wont be doing elementary school homework. Especially not in K-2nd grade, around age 8 Ill start enforcing. If he wants to do it because its fun so be it but there is no reason he needs to spend 30-45 min doing homework at age 6. None. We can play word games, license plate games while driving for state capitals, cook/bake to work with fractions, read multiple books at night, etc.

It is engagement not homework that matters.

These items aside there is nothing my child could say to a teacher for me to accept that they were struck. Nothing. Teachers are adults. They can control themselves. Children are children and impulsive and testing boundaries and he would be punished at home (a LOT) but physical battery on behalf of the teacher is not acceptable.

Are you serious? You need to make sure your child does the required work. You are just what the teachers encounter - LAZY- and clueless.
Yes homework also matters!!!

Fool. Most schools aren't pushing homework in the early grades. You are unknowledgeable and ignorant. Other, better achieving countries do the same. You brain is in a very tight box.

The ease and quickness with which that man hit that child indicates he has done this before. He is a violent person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no circumstance where I would support this teacher after seeing this video. And I support many teachers/principals etc in my family and friend group; times are tough for them. I still can't see any way this is ok.

For all we know this kid just assaulted another student. If that were the case I really wouldn't feel bad for what happened to him.

The hoodie that was the crime wearing a hoodie

From other articles the kid was a problem student and continuously caused issues with that teacher. Why he had a lot of support after that incident. The administration should be held liable for not backing up their teacher before it led to this. Talk to any teacher and they will tell you this is the biggest problem with teaching.

Still not an excuse for assault. I have a lot of problems with stuff I see posted on DCUM--doesn't mean I can haul off and punch the people posting it.

No one said it was. Merely they are reporting the student was a problem one.

It's not ok why the teacher is leaving which I think we all established.

Who is reporting the kid was a problem? I would sue whatever source to the ends of the earth and back if that was my child. We have school systems in this area that will slur the family and child if THEY, the school system, have abused a them. It's an old republcan tactic. The best defense is to lie and create a false offense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was more than just a slap. The force of the slap pushed his head back causing his head to strike the wall behind him. He immediately grabbed the back of his head and crumpled down to the floor.

The force of the slap or the act of jerking his head back to avoid the slap?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It look like the kid said something bad to the teacher. While he shouldn't have slapped the brat it was obvious he purposely fell to the ground to stop him from taking him to the principals office. And to invoke drama and sympathy, lol There is probably a bigger problem with this kid, and the parents. Glad he's retiring with full benefits.

I hope the violoent piece of sh*t enjoys his jail cell. You people blaming the kid suck.

The kid sucks. There is just so long before you get your due-right or wrong.

You are vile and disgusting you uneducated cretin. No child deserves that.

You're acting like he's a toddler. This is why the US has such a high rate of incarceration. The parents let the bad behavior slide and their teens are treated like babies instead of preparing them for adulthood.

[Anonymous]

Teacher obviously had time to think about what he wanted to do. Kid was walking to the principal's office when he was attacked. I do not care what happened before this on this day or any other day or year. Kid was walking away. Teach processed, left his classroom to run him down and then assaulted him.
How is this different say, if both were adults? Does the one "deserve" the beating? How about if one was a cop? Does the one deserve the assault depending on other factors? So say you as an adult have done something wrong yesterday, your neighbor finds you and slaps the crap out of you. I guess that is ok? Or is it just ok b/c the one is a child?
Yes, we do have a school to jail problem. This kid needs help probalby, maybe a bad home, no support whatever. Even so, if that is true, this does not help. Or maybe we can get a cop or 2 to slap the shi*t out of him to scare him silly.
100% support anything that happens to this teacher. I can go through a list of dozens of teachers and administrators that have been pushed over the edge by kids by much worse...not one would ever lower themselves to this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It look like the kid said something bad to the teacher. While he shouldn't have slapped the brat it was obvious he purposely fell to the ground to stop him from taking him to the principals office. And to invoke drama and sympathy, lol There is probably a bigger problem with this kid, and the parents. Glad he's retiring with full benefits.

I hope the violoent piece of sh*t enjoys his jail cell. You people blaming the kid suck.

The kid sucks. There is just so long before you get your due-right or wrong.

Both can be wrong. The kid could be a problem child, but that still does not excuse the teacher's behavior. There are many forms of control and discipline that are acceptable. Physically assaulting the child is not one of them unless the child is violent against the teacher (the teacher is allowed self-defense). In this case, the teacher was 100% in the wrong. The child may have been disagreeable, disrespectful and ignoring the school dress policy, but that still does not excuse the teacher laying hands on the child.

Those of you trying to blame the victim here are disgusting. I'm not trying to call the kid a model student or anything, but just saying that nothing justifies the violent response from the teacher. You people are like the ones who say that women are asking to be raped by dressing sexy. Or that hazing of freshman athletes is just "being boys". All disgusting behavior that should not be condoned or excused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It look like the kid said something bad to the teacher. While he shouldn't have slapped the brat it was obvious he purposely fell to the ground to stop him from taking him to the principals office. And to invoke drama and sympathy, lol There is probably a bigger problem with this kid, and the parents. Glad he's retiring with full benefits.

If you read the comments on the change.org petition for the teacher they claim the kid "fainted" on purpose.

I saw it on the video. It was more than obvious. His parents will say he was a model student no doubt.

He didn't "faint" on purpose. He was struck so hard his head cracked against a concrete wall, so he fell and cradled his head. It's a pretty normal defense mechanism if you are hit in the head. You curl up to protect your head.

Some of you trying to excuse this abuser are terrible.

[Anonymous]

Parents who don't enforce homework are pathetic.

Homework has a purpose! It's to help gauge where kids may still need help on a topic or skill.

When I get homework papers back and see that 9 out of 18-22 kids all missed the same problem, I know that it's a topic we need to cover again. Guess when it's too late to cover that topic again? After they've taken a test and gotten a bad grade.

Parents don't want to enforce homework because they don't want to deal with whiny kids who don't want to do it. However, had you started a good routine from the beginning in K, you'd have no whiny kids. I have plenty of parents who send me emails that say exactly this. "Brandon isn't receptive to hw afterschool so we will not be participating."

[Anonymous]

I was always told as a kid that somebody will put you in your place one way or another. This kid learned what that meant. Kid or not there are many people in this world who believe they have the right of way to do and act however they please and then they want to be upset when someone finally teaches them a lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents who don't enforce homework are pathetic.

Homework has a purpose! It's to help gauge where kids may still need help on a topic or skill.

When I get homework papers back and see that 9 out of 18-22 kids all missed the same problem, I know that it's a topic we need to cover again. Guess when it's too late to cover that topic again? After they've taken a test and gotten a bad grade.

Parents don't want to enforce homework because they don't want to deal with whiny kids who don't want to do it. However, had you started a good routine from the beginning in K, you'd have no whiny kids. I have plenty of parents who send me emails that say exactly this. "Brandon isn't receptive to hw afterschool so we will not be participating."

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents who don't enforce homework are pathetic.

Homework has a purpose! It's to help gauge where kids may still need help on a topic or skill.

When I get homework papers back and see that 9 out of 18-22 kids all missed the same problem, I know that it's a topic we need to cover again. Guess when it's too late to cover that topic again? After they've taken a test and gotten a bad grade.

Parents don't want to enforce homework because they don't want to deal with whiny kids who don't want to do it. However, had you started a good routine from the beginning in K, you'd have no whiny kids. I have plenty of parents who send me emails that say exactly this. "Brandon isn't receptive to hw afterschool so we will not be participating."

So if roughly half the class fails the same area of a test, you keep pushing forward even when you know you haven’t effectively taught the material, then blame the parents? Why is that too late to fix? It sounds like a teacher issue or a structural issue with testing and scoring to me. It’s ridiculous to think the only way you can gauge progress is with homework and your hands are tied with no way to fix it if children don’t do lots of homework every night.