If you are in your 50s plus…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. I wanted to add on the gender issue, we have always had transvestites so I get that some people like to dress up or act like the opposite sex however they seemed to understand what gender they originally were.

Today's gender issues are going beyond that and I don't understand this part of it all. Even people wanting to be called they/them and not identifying as any gender. I just can't get it.

Sexual perversions were never promoted so openly, let alone endorsed by schools to emotionally vulnerable children. That alone is a big difference

They aren't perversions.
They aren't "promoted."
Nothing is being "endorsed" by schools.

Sexualy diversity has ALWAYS existed. We just aren't lying about it anymore.

Difference of opinion, completely. In fact I disagree with every word you’ve written

So, this isn't an opinion. You are literally disagreeing with facts. You apparently are just way out there with some belief system. There have always been gay, non binary, transexual, and bisexual people. There are even gay animals. Nobody is selling it or creating it. You can say you don't like it, I guess, but you can't say it doesn't exist. The world has just come to meet it where it is. I had a male teacher in the sixth grade who was fired after someone tried to blackmail him with pictures of him at a gay bar. 1969.
Gay male first grade teacher in 1983. His being gay was never to be mentioned, his living arrangements never to be discussed. Every now and again, a parent complains that the man, as he's " effeminate" shouldn't be teaching students. Teacher is advised to never say anything, deny it, and he keeps his job.

Here we are, 2022, and the whole class has a party for their 8th grade lesbian social studies teacher who is having a baby with her wife. Moms of students organize this, food, decorations, etc. Two transexual teachers in our high school, a gay superintendent before this one, openly gay BOE members, elected officials in our legislature, and Rachel Levine and Pete Buttigieg in federal cabinet positions.

So, you are pretty sure everyone is being indoctrinated? Really?

The facts that I stated are that these things are perversions, which is true, and that they are being promoted in the schools, which is also true. Never once did I say they don't exist; that is your reading comprehension failure.

I stand by what I wrote. OP asked for the "differences" from a 50+ perspective. That is my opinion and yes, it is based on facts. I don't know how much clearer I can make that for you.

Yeah, you are about 30 years too late with the perversion thing. No, they are not perversions, never were. That's where reading comprehension comes in. I think you don't understand any of this. This isn't a good thread for you, today, but I'm sure OP was expecting some trolls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here. I wanted to add on the gender issue, we have always had transvestites so I get that some people like to dress up or act like the opposite sex however they seemed to understand what gender they originally were.

Today's gender issues are going beyond that and I don't understand this part of it all. Even people wanting to be called they/them and not identifying as any gender. I just can't get it.

Sexual perversions were never promoted so openly, let alone endorsed by schools to emotionally vulnerable children. That alone is a big difference

They aren't perversions.
They aren't "promoted."
Nothing is being "endorsed" by schools.

Sexualy diversity has ALWAYS existed. We just aren't lying about it anymore.

Difference of opinion, completely. In fact I disagree with every word you’ve written

So, this isn't an opinion. You are literally disagreeing with facts. You apparently are just way out there with some belief system. There have always been gay, non binary, transexual, and bisexual people. There are even gay animals. Nobody is selling it or creating it. You can say you don't like it, I guess, but you can't say it doesn't exist. The world has just come to meet it where it is. I had a male teacher in the sixth grade who was fired after someone tried to blackmail him with pictures of him at a gay bar. 1969.
Gay male first grade teacher in 1983. His being gay was never to be mentioned, his living arrangements never to be discussed. Every now and again, a parent complains that the man, as he's " effeminate" shouldn't be teaching students. Teacher is advised to never say anything, deny it, and he keeps his job.

Here we are, 2022, and the whole class has a party for their 8th grade lesbian social studies teacher who is having a baby with her wife. Moms of students organize this, food, decorations, etc. Two transexual teachers in our high school, a gay superintendent before this one, openly gay BOE members, elected officials in our legislature, and Rachel Levine and Pete Buttigieg in federal cabinet positions.

So, you are pretty sure everyone is being indoctrinated? Really?

The facts that I stated are that these things are perversions, which is true, and that they are being promoted in the schools, which is also true. Never once did I say they don't exist; that is your reading comprehension failure.

I stand by what I wrote. OP asked for the "differences" from a 50+ perspective. That is my opinion and yes, it is based on facts. I don't know how much clearer I can make that for you.

Yeah, you are about 30 years too late with the perversion thing. No, they are not perversions, never were. That's where reading comprehension comes in. I think you don't understand any of this. This isn't a good thread for you, today, but I'm sure OP was expecting some trolls.

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Sounds like the illiterate, delusional bigot from earlier. Just ignore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here. I wanted to add on the gender issue, we have always had transvestites so I get that some people like to dress up or act like the opposite sex however they seemed to understand what gender they originally were.

Today's gender issues are going beyond that and I don't understand this part of it all. Even people wanting to be called they/them and not identifying as any gender. I just can't get it.

Sexual perversions were never promoted so openly, let alone endorsed by schools to emotionally vulnerable children. That alone is a big difference

They aren't perversions.
They aren't "promoted."
Nothing is being "endorsed" by schools.

Sexualy diversity has ALWAYS existed. We just aren't lying about it anymore.

Difference of opinion, completely. In fact I disagree with every word you’ve written

So, this isn't an opinion. You are literally disagreeing with facts. You apparently are just way out there with some belief system. There have always been gay, non binary, transexual, and bisexual people. There are even gay animals. Nobody is selling it or creating it. You can say you don't like it, I guess, but you can't say it doesn't exist. The world has just come to meet it where it is. I had a male teacher in the sixth grade who was fired after someone tried to blackmail him with pictures of him at a gay bar. 1969.
Gay male first grade teacher in 1983. His being gay was never to be mentioned, his living arrangements never to be discussed. Every now and again, a parent complains that the man, as he's " effeminate" shouldn't be teaching students. Teacher is advised to never say anything, deny it, and he keeps his job.

Here we are, 2022, and the whole class has a party for their 8th grade lesbian social studies teacher who is having a baby with her wife. Moms of students organize this, food, decorations, etc. Two transexual teachers in our high school, a gay superintendent before this one, openly gay BOE members, elected officials in our legislature, and Rachel Levine and Pete Buttigieg in federal cabinet positions.

So, you are pretty sure everyone is being indoctrinated? Really?

The facts that I stated are that these things are perversions, which is true, and that they are being promoted in the schools, which is also true. Never once did I say they don't exist; that is your reading comprehension failure.

I stand by what I wrote. OP asked for the "differences" from a 50+ perspective. That is my opinion and yes, it is based on facts. I don't know how much clearer I can make that for you.

So, jumping in here .. I think a PP tried to explain that these were not, indeed, facts. They are your opinions which are based in non factual information. They are your opinions based upon, well, more opinions. So, in terms of being clearer, probably no one here can help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. I wanted to add on the gender issue, we have always had transvestites so I get that some people like to dress up or act like the opposite sex however they seemed to understand what gender they originally were.

Today's gender issues are going beyond that and I don't understand this part of it all. Even people wanting to be called they/them and not identifying as any gender. I just can't get it.

Sexual perversions were never promoted so openly, let alone endorsed by schools to emotionally vulnerable children. That alone is a big difference

Sexuality and gender are two separate things. I do not see it as sexual perversions and understand that gays, bisexuals, asexuals and all the rest have been around since the start of time. That's why I said I understand sexual fluidity. Gender issues is new to me however a PP gave a link to read which I intend to read, it might make it clearer to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. I wanted to add on the gender issue, we have always had transvestites so I get that some people like to dress up or act like the opposite sex however they seemed to understand what gender they originally were.

Today's gender issues are going beyond that and I don't understand this part of it all. Even people wanting to be called they/them and not identifying as any gender. I just can't get it.

It's fine that you don't understand it. The reason you don't is because of socioreligious norms that have been in place here in our culture. There are other cultures that have long the embraced gender fluid aspect for centuries. Sociological mandates are powerful and the white western world dictates much of how we think, even if we don't realize it. https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/11/181624/gender-fluid-examples-history

What you do need to do is make an effort to leave the comfort zone in your head and go from there.

Wow I did read it and had no idea, that was very interesting. I had no idea there was so much history with it. I am really happy to see people moving into a world where they can live how they want to. I still feel we have a long way to go.

Thank you for reminding me to leave my comfort zone, you are right, it is simply a comfort zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mid 50s, and I worry more about the destruction we've done to our planet and wonder if it can be salvaged.

+100

I also think the pollution--hormones in the water supply and plastics that disrupt endocrines are part of the reason for the statistically improbable number of gender fluid teens and reduced fertility and testosterone levels and increase in cancers that used to effect the older population in young adults. The fish in the Potomac are now intersex.

Intersex conditions in male smallmouth bass are widespread in the Potomac River basin: 50 to 75 percent of male smallmouth bass collected in the South Branch Potomac River exhibited signs of feminization, as did 100 percent of those collected at sites in the Shenandoah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mid 50s, and I worry more about the destruction we've done to our planet and wonder if it can be salvaged.

+100

I also think the pollution--hormones in the water supply and plastics that disrupt endocrines are part of the reason for the statistically improbable number of gender fluid teens and reduced fertility and testosterone levels and increase in cancers that used to effect the older population in young adults. The fish in the Potomac are now intersex.

Intersex conditions in male smallmouth bass are widespread in the Potomac River basin: 50 to 75 percent of male smallmouth bass collected in the South Branch Potomac River exhibited signs of feminization, as did 100 percent of those collected at sites in the Shenandoah.

This is interesting and makes a lot of sense as to why so many teens are gender fluid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mid 50s, and I worry more about the destruction we've done to our planet and wonder if it can be salvaged.

+100

I also think the pollution--hormones in the water supply and plastics that disrupt endocrines are part of the reason for the statistically improbable number of gender fluid teens and reduced fertility and testosterone levels and increase in cancers that used to effect the older population in young adults. The fish in the Potomac are now intersex.

Intersex conditions in male smallmouth bass are widespread in the Potomac River basin: 50 to 75 percent of male smallmouth bass collected in the South Branch Potomac River exhibited signs of feminization, as did 100 percent of those collected at sites in the Shenandoah.

Citation on this please? And not just "google it; you'll find it on the internet."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mid 50s, and I worry more about the destruction we've done to our planet and wonder if it can be salvaged.

+100

I also think the pollution--hormones in the water supply and plastics that disrupt endocrines are part of the reason for the statistically improbable number of gender fluid teens and reduced fertility and testosterone levels and increase in cancers that used to effect the older population in young adults. The fish in the Potomac are now intersex.

Intersex conditions in male smallmouth bass are widespread in the Potomac River basin: 50 to 75 percent of male smallmouth bass collected in the South Branch Potomac River exhibited signs of feminization, as did 100 percent of those collected at sites in the Shenandoah.

I also believe that environmental xenohormones are affecting our health in undetermined ways - possibly even gender development.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12456297/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4303243/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mid 50s, and I worry more about the destruction we've done to our planet and wonder if it can be salvaged.

+100

I also think the pollution--hormones in the water supply and plastics that disrupt endocrines are part of the reason for the statistically improbable number of gender fluid teens and reduced fertility and testosterone levels and increase in cancers that used to effect the older population in young adults. The fish in the Potomac are now intersex.

Intersex conditions in male smallmouth bass are widespread in the Potomac River basin: 50 to 75 percent of male smallmouth bass collected in the South Branch Potomac River exhibited signs of feminization, as did 100 percent of those collected at sites in the Shenandoah.

I also believe that environmental xenohormones are affecting our health in undetermined ways - possibly even gender development.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12456297/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4303243/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/

This is such a right wing trope. Very stupid. Intersex, gender fluid issues have been around since recorded history. There are many cultures in South Asia where this is just a normal part of life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mid 50s, and I worry more about the destruction we've done to our planet and wonder if it can be salvaged.

+100

I also think the pollution--hormones in the water supply and plastics that disrupt endocrines are part of the reason for the statistically improbable number of gender fluid teens and reduced fertility and testosterone levels and increase in cancers that used to effect the older population in young adults. The fish in the Potomac are now intersex.

Intersex conditions in male smallmouth bass are widespread in the Potomac River basin: 50 to 75 percent of male smallmouth bass collected in the South Branch Potomac River exhibited signs of feminization, as did 100 percent of those collected at sites in the Shenandoah.

This is interesting and makes a lot of sense as to why so many teens are gender fluid.

I think you are the original troll here sock puppeting your own flawed crap.

And no, fish have zero to do with teens and gender fluidity. Poor try.

[Anonymous]

Looks like there are some folks who need to evolve:

https://www.healthline.com/health/different-genders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like there are some folks who need to evolve:

https://www.healthline.com/health/different-genders

And adding to this for those of you who try to create false narratives to suit your religious understandings, may I offer you some reading. And while I am here, consider the reason you might need to stay out of school board and curriculum erasures, because education is key:

https://listverse.com/2015/10/21/10-examples-of-nonbinary-genders-throughout-history/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/30/third-gender-a-short-history/

https://historicengland.org.uk/research/inclusive-heritage/lgbtq-heritage-project/trans-and-gender-nonconforming-histories/


https://www.britannica.com/story/forgotten-figures-who-challenged-gender-expression-and-identity-centuries-ago

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like there are some folks who need to evolve:

https://www.healthline.com/health/different-genders

And adding to this for those of you who try to create false narratives to suit your religious understandings, may I offer you some reading. And while I am here, consider the reason you might need to stay out of school board and curriculum erasures, because education is key:

https://listverse.com/2015/10/21/10-examples-of-nonbinary-genders-throughout-history/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/30/third-gender-a-short-history/

https://historicengland.org.uk/research/inclusive-heritage/lgbtq-heritage-project/trans-and-gender-nonconforming-histories/


https://www.britannica.com/story/forgotten-figures-who-challenged-gender-expression-and-identity-centuries-ago

Oh, sure. It's "always existed," so that makes it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like there are some folks who need to evolve:

https://www.healthline.com/health/different-genders

And adding to this for those of you who try to create false narratives to suit your religious understandings, may I offer you some reading. And while I am here, consider the reason you might need to stay out of school board and curriculum erasures, because education is key:

https://listverse.com/2015/10/21/10-examples-of-nonbinary-genders-throughout-history/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/30/third-gender-a-short-history/

https://historicengland.org.uk/research/inclusive-heritage/lgbtq-heritage-project/trans-and-gender-nonconforming-histories/


https://www.britannica.com/story/forgotten-figures-who-challenged-gender-expression-and-identity-centuries-ago

Oh, sure. It's "always existed," so that makes it right.

What does that even mean?

Yeah, it means it has always been relevant, and it's not invented, promoted, mandated or taught. It's biological, not sociological.

When you make a judgement about right or wrong, then it's sociological and cultural. Religion is cultural.