Not sure if this should be in the policy forum instead... Anyone here voting for Youngkin because of

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Anonymous wrote:Governors don’t control school districts.

They can set state policy for the entire state. And look at the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative. It will affect all districts. It needs to be stopped.

Why? Because you believe some RWNJ lies?

NP. Math teacher here. Not a RWNJ. Please do anything you can to stop the VPMI. I will retire early before it hits schools if it stays as planned. It’s not good.

You are so stuck in your ways that you don’t want to blend algebra and geometry concepts?

Sounds like you should retire.

To say nothing of the fact that my 8th grader is in Honors Geometry now and they stay blending algebra into the class. Please retire "math teacher"

In other words they are dumbing down the curriculum so that more students qualify for so-called honors math.

There is no way that geometry and algebra should be taught together. They are merely simplifying both to make it easier

No, it’s blending them together, just like they do in other countries with better math programs.

Definitely time to retire.

No. You have no idea what you’re talking about on multiple levels. I promise you that Chinese kids are not getting this watered down math that you now call “honors” level. What a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahaha OP....

You really think a guy who attended swanky private schools and became a private equity partner gives a hoot about public schools?

Actually I'm sure he does, as far as defunding them and getting into gratuitous fights with school boards over public health measures just to own the libs and pave his way to a presidential run.

This is correct. No way would I ever vote for him. He is-pro Trump and anti-women.

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I’m a nurse in NoVa. The thought of anything like the FL or TX Covid response is enough for me to not even consider voting for him even if I’m not super excited about the Dem option. He will try to appease the GOP base, which outside of NoVa means Trumpism.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin will not fix problems in FCPS. It’s a false dichotomy. Look at the platforms of the people who actually control the school board and county government.

This. I’m not happy with the status quo but I don’t think this guy gives a crap about public schools and in fact, might do things to undermine public education. I think people are absolutely going to pay attention to the next SB election and I hope there is an overhaul. But Youngkin for Families? He’s capitalizing on the current dissatisfaction to convince parents to vote for him. I don’t trust him.

Well put.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin will not fix problems in FCPS. It’s a false dichotomy. Look at the platforms of the people who actually control the school board and county government.

This. I’m not happy with the status quo but I don’t think this guy gives a crap about public schools and in fact, might do things to undermine public education. I think people are absolutely going to pay attention to the next SB election and I hope there is an overhaul. But Youngkin for Families? He’s capitalizing on the current dissatisfaction to convince parents to vote for him. I don’t trust him.

Well put.

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Anonymous wrote:I would vote for Mickey Mouse before I'd ever vote for Youngkin.

He latched onto TM's comment about parents controlling what schools teach, but he doesn't actually have any plans to fix any of the issues with schools. He would probably instead pull a move similar to Trump, putting people who have ZERO experience in education (like Betsy DeVos) in charge of educational decisions at the state level. Bad move.

And he’ll probably spend a year or so banning CRT, which isn’t even being taught, instead of addressing REAL issues.

I agree. There are real issues that need to be addressed, but he has no clue what they are.

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Math teacher back again. The other replies were not me. Algebra and geometry can and should be taught together with applications. This is true. I have spent many, many hours in meetings about how they plan to implement the VMPI and it is lowering standards. Ask real questions about the implementation. This is not the integrated math you are talking about that is taught in other states or countries. This is lowering standards, as they have been doing and continue to do in VA. And don’t worry, I will retire and then all of you will be emailing asking if I’m available to tutor for enrichment. I won’t be.

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The problem with Youngkin is that he will be leaving local school boards at the mercy of disgruntled parents.

McAuliffe will take a more hands on approach and for one thing, will be fixing segregation in our schools with a Chief Integration Officer and an equity council ( I forget the exact name but it’s on his website) that will force the issue. Schools won’t be accredited without the right amount of diversity, funding will be withheld and there will be state led efforts to diversify housing.

No one has to fear losing an election because of boundaries or any other issue. With the state directing it all, a loud obnoxious parents won’t make any difference at all.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with Youngkin is that he will be leaving local school boards at the mercy of disgruntled parents.

McAuliffe will take a more hands on approach and for one thing, will be fixing segregation in our schools with a Chief Integration Officer and an equity council ( I forget the exact name but it’s on his website) that will force the issue. Schools won’t be accredited without the right amount of diversity, funding will be withheld and there will be state led efforts to diversify housing.

No one has to fear losing an election because of boundaries or any other issue. With the state directing it all, a loud obnoxious parents won’t make any difference at all.

This is a troll post, right?

Please say this is a troll post. Please?

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Anonymous wrote:Math teacher back again. The other replies were not me. Algebra and geometry can and should be taught together with applications. This is true. I have spent many, many hours in meetings about how they plan to implement the VMPI and it is lowering standards. Ask real questions about the implementation. This is not the integrated math you are talking about that is taught in other states or countries. This is lowering standards, as they have been doing and continue to do in VA. And don’t worry, I will retire and then all of you will be emailing asking if I’m available to tutor for enrichment. I won’t be.

Please don't retire. We don't need lower math standards, we need good math teachers. We need to advocate for excellence in education.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin will not fix problems in FCPS. It’s a false dichotomy. Look at the platforms of the people who actually control the school board and county government.

This. I’m not happy with the status quo but I don’t think this guy gives a crap about public schools and in fact, might do things to undermine public education. I think people are absolutely going to pay attention to the next SB election and I hope there is an overhaul. But Youngkin for Families? He’s capitalizing on the current dissatisfaction to convince parents to vote for him. I don’t trust him.

Well put.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Governors don’t control school districts.

They can set state policy for the entire state. And look at the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative. It will affect all districts. It needs to be stopped.

Why? Because you believe some RWNJ lies?

NP. Math teacher here. Not a RWNJ. Please do anything you can to stop the VPMI. I will retire early before it hits schools if it stays as planned. It’s not good.

You are so stuck in your ways that you don’t want to blend algebra and geometry concepts?

Sounds like you should retire.

To say nothing of the fact that my 8th grader is in Honors Geometry now and they stay blending algebra into the class. Please retire "math teacher"

In other words they are dumbing down the curriculum so that more students qualify for so-called honors math.

There is no way that geometry and algebra should be taught together. They are merely simplifying both to make it easier

Not debating the merits of VMPI, but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The 36 or so countries that are ahead of us in PISA rankings teach Algebra, Geometry and data analysis together throughout secondary school, moving on to Trig/Calc/Stats in the later years. One reason they may do better is that concepts are continuously revisited and extended over several years.

Gosh. That sounds terrible. Why would VA want to do that?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Governors don’t control school districts.

They can set state policy for the entire state. And look at the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative. It will affect all districts. It needs to be stopped.

Why? Because you believe some RWNJ lies?

NP. Math teacher here. Not a RWNJ. Please do anything you can to stop the VPMI. I will retire early before it hits schools if it stays as planned. It’s not good.

They are not being taught together. She took Algebra I HN last year in 7th BUT you need to know and re-apply Algebra concepts to geometry. Is this line parallel to that line? Let's look at slope in addition to alt interior angles, etc...

You are so stuck in your ways that you don’t want to blend algebra and geometry concepts?

Sounds like you should retire.

To say nothing of the fact that my 8th grader is in Honors Geometry now and they stay blending algebra into the class. Please retire "math teacher"

In other words they are dumbing down the curriculum so that more students qualify for so-called honors math.

There is no way that geometry and algebra should be taught together. They are merely simplifying both to make it easier

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They are not being taught together. She took Algebra I HN last year in 7th BUT you need to know and re-apply Algebra concepts to geometry. Is this line parallel to that line? Let's look at slope in addition to alt interior angles, etc...

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin seems like a stand up candidate. Not a career politician, values family, schools and proposed tax cuts in a way that benefit poorer individuals more than an income tax cut which benefits the wealthy more. Reducing the food tax where a disproportionate amount of poorer individuals income goes. It’s a refreshing approach.

Vmpi is a wreck. If you value mathematics and/or have mathematically inclined children you should really be aware of the underpinnings of this movement and the ultimate policy goal and what the state is willing to sacrifice to meet this goal. I am amazed so many people are so interested in AAP or advanced schools/good colleges etc but would support this initiative. It’s shooting our students in the foot. Look up what the VA Tech professor had to say. Colleges are not going to find these pathways competitive for programs looking for advanced students. Education should work to meet the needs of all students, the failure to help bridge that gap should not be reached by lowering our educational options/pursuits and standards. It’s insane. Spend less of the money to lower math through VMPI and get more specialist to work with struggling students in a smaller setting.

I think we all know Terry is sleazy. Some will vote for him because he is Dem. VA is better than this. Served up a re-do candidate who is associated with the Clinton era and expects to win because he reiterates the tired campaign line of trying to say a candidate is Trump. Facts Terry, provide us some facts. We have brains and can see that we deserve better than some entitled campaign that expects us to believe some line and think that line is enough for us to give you are vote. What do you Terry bring to the table? How is your tax plan better for the average VA citizen. We are VA we deserve more than being told what to do by lifelong politicians. Elected officials work for the people. That is often forgotten with the entitled political lifers.

I would be excited for some fresh candidates to represent us.

VMPI doesn’t “lower math”. Stop spreading RWNJ lies.


Have you read the actual program and supporting document texts? I have. And when you limit when a student can take certain advanced classes to 11 grade or above you do indeed cap mathematics. The students cannot take the level of classes during the time constraints left in high school. Look into the different pathways and how many semesters are available for higher level math. I can presume you and your family are not familiar with advanced mathematics and also higher level educational pursuits beyond curriculum dictates. If you were you would likely be much more attuned to the impact these restrictions impose from a practical standpoint. Not to mention the actual curriculum being taught. I implore you to read the supporting documents and the social goals of VMPI and it will be quite clear improving the mathematical prowess and higher level thinking of students is NOT the goal. The state failed to bridge the gap and this program is to bridge the gap by lowering the range of math available/Ie capping more advanced students. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml#resources

This is absolutely false. I have read it and you clearly have not. VMPI *in no way* limits or caps classes. From the link that you did not read:

The implementation of VMPI would still allow for student acceleration in mathematics content according to ability and achievement. It does not dictate how and when students take specific courses. Those decisions remain with students and school divisions based on individualized learning needs.

The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.

Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses.

Stop spreading misinformation. Retract or I’ll report to Jeff to remove.

-STEM major/career (including several college-level math courses)