Does Council bill just let people keep their kids home and not educate them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see the Mayor's PR folks are out in force today.

ha. do you really think that?

it's the old "shill" line!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and this portion of the bill was done to appease pumpkin mom and the upper SES people who are just scared. Not for people with kids with actual medical needs.

+1 She professes to care about low income children, but she truly only cares about her own. She and her husband have the ability to educate their kids.Kids whose parents are barely educated themselves and lack resources will gravely suffer.

Pumpkin mom has singlehandedly created so much many toxic situations. Yes I am personally acquainted with her. She is completely blind to her own biases and always will be.

I used to think the award for worst DCPS parent advocacy was Grocer Norquist complaining of lack of taxpayer funding for the school spelling be. Now it’s definitely Becky Reina.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:for people to keep their kids home without virtual school in the first place seems to require at least some check on the part of CPS. is that group saying that they should just be able to check a box somewhere and CPS won't come and check to see if they are actually educating their kids? seriously?

so you either burden CPS and your school or you say 'no oversight!' and have kids falling off the map.

I want to know what the "keeping my kids home" parents think is the appropriate response that ensures safety of all kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and this portion of the bill was done to appease pumpkin mom and the upper SES people who are just scared. Not for people with kids with actual medical needs.

+1 She professes to care about low income children, but she truly only cares about her own. She and her husband have the ability to educate their kids.Kids whose parents are barely educated themselves and lack resources will gravely suffer.

Pumpkin mom has singlehandedly created so much many toxic situations. Yes I am personally acquainted with her. She is completely blind to her own biases and always will be.

I used to think the award for worst DCPS parent advocacy was Grocer Norquist complaining of lack of taxpayer funding for the school spelling be. Now it’s definitely Becky Reina.

+1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and this portion of the bill was done to appease pumpkin mom and the upper SES people who are just scared. Not for people with kids with actual medical needs.

+1 She professes to care about low income children, but she truly only cares about her own. She and her husband have the ability to educate their kids.Kids whose parents are barely educated themselves and lack resources will gravely suffer.

Pumpkin mom has singlehandedly created so much many toxic situations. Yes I am personally acquainted with her. She is completely blind to her own biases and always will be.

I used to think the award for worst DCPS parent advocacy was Grocer Norquist complaining of lack of taxpayer funding for the school spelling be. Now it’s definitely Becky Reina.

+1.

This person has a "Amy Cooper"-esque reckoning coming for her at some point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

Or, realistically, even the people who THINK they are providing an education will really not be doing so, because they aren't educators and don't know what is supposed to be covered in school.

Unless, of course, they are doing some back-door virtual where they are demanding resources from the school. Which the school should not provide.

That does seem to be what's going on. These parents think they are burdening teachers and schools because they refuse to homeschool for some reason.

[Anonymous]

^^think it's ok to burden

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

Or, realistically, even the people who THINK they are providing an education will really not be doing so, because they aren't educators and don't know what is supposed to be covered in school.

Unless, of course, they are doing some back-door virtual where they are demanding resources from the school. Which the school should not provide.

That does seem to be what's going on. These parents think they are burdening teachers and schools because they refuse to homeschool for some reason.

They want to keep their charter or OOB lottery spots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

Or, realistically, even the people who THINK they are providing an education will really not be doing so, because they aren't educators and don't know what is supposed to be covered in school.

Unless, of course, they are doing some back-door virtual where they are demanding resources from the school. Which the school should not provide.

That does seem to be what's going on. These parents think they are burdening teachers and schools because they refuse to homeschool for some reason.

They want to keep their charter or OOB lottery spots.

Oh I see. Increasing the ease of educational neglect and child abuse (conceivably among others but who know it might be them) is worth that charter or OOB spot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't know how to tell you that you should care about other people, namely vulnerable children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the Council's emergency bill:

"Further, students whose families who have made the choice to keep them home due to concerns 72 around the safety of the school environment and school buildings should be able to receive an excused absence from their school. The bill grants the school the ability to provide this excused absence through January 15, 2022."

https://legiscan.com/DC/text/PR24-0375/2021

Does that mean anyone can keep their kid home, not do any virtual learning (since just being concerned doesn't qualify you for virtual), not homeschool, and just have a semester of excused absence?

How...how is that legal?

How is DC or a school supposed to document whether parents are just keeping kids home "due to concerns around the safety of the school environment"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

This is exactly it. 7 pages of people complaining about equity when they very obviously are just worried about being inconvenienced

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

This is exactly it. 7 pages of people complaining about equity when they very obviously are just worried about being inconvenienced

+1 it’s the schools open at all costs folks freaking out that this will affect them (it won’t) and doing it in the name of abused kids that they really don’t give an F about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

This is exactly it. 7 pages of people complaining about equity when they very obviously are just worried about being inconvenienced

Actually it is mostly people worried about how responding to the demands of the privileged, loud few means that there are going to be more children suffering educational neglect and potentially child abuse.