Does Council bill just let people keep their kids home and not educate them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

This is exactly it. 7 pages of people complaining about equity when they very obviously are just worried about being inconvenienced

+1 it’s the schools open at all costs folks freaking out that this will affect them (it won’t) and doing it in the name of abused kids that they really don’t give an F about.

no that's the other thread about charters.

I don't understand why you aren't concerned about child abuse or educational neglect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

This is exactly it. 7 pages of people complaining about equity when they very obviously are just worried about being inconvenienced

Actually it is mostly people worried about how responding to the demands of the privileged, loud few means that there are going to be more children suffering educational neglect and potentially child abuse.

I’m also concerned about the impact this will have on schools when these kids return after THREE years of no/barely any education and normal socialization, as well the burden on the schools if they are expecting some kind of support from them. I think keeping kids home will damage them in the long run, but that’s their parents’ unfortunate choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

here are the people "inconvenienced" by people just saying they can keep their kids home until January and not send them to any sort of school, or even homeschool:

1) the children who are receiving substandard or no education
2) school staff who have to report those kids to CPS or interact with those parents, possibly providing them educational materials or some sort of backdoor virtual option
3) CPS who has to investigate those parents because before the Council's bill they'd be doing something illegal.

I, another parent, am not inconvenienced. It is actually true that I care about the kids that are going to not receive any education at all because of this. It is actually true that by saying that CPS shouldn't be involved we let more kids who are being neglected or abused fall through the cracks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

This is exactly it. 7 pages of people complaining about equity when they very obviously are just worried about being inconvenienced

+1 it’s the schools open at all costs folks freaking out that this will affect them (it won’t) and doing it in the name of abused kids that they really don’t give an F about.

Admit you don't care about child safety or education of anyone but your own kids.

[Anonymous]

How hard is it to apply for homeschooling? I know someone who is keeping her kids home and I think they are doing home school but she hasn’t applied for reasons I don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

This is exactly it. 7 pages of people complaining about equity when they very obviously are just worried about being inconvenienced

+1 it’s the schools open at all costs folks freaking out that this will affect them (it won’t) and doing it in the name of abused kids that they really don’t give an F about.

Admit you don't care about child safety or education of anyone but your own kids.

it still amazes me even after all these months that “open schools at all costs” has somehow become an insult to some weird faction on the left. what a rabbit hole when your wokeness is in direct opposition to unicef.

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/statement-reopening-schools-cannot-wait

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How hard is it to apply for homeschooling? I know someone who is keeping her kids home and I think they are doing home school but she hasn’t applied for reasons I don’t understand.

narcissism plain and simple. it’s not hard at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.

I don't think anyone cares what you do personally but they do care about how what you're doing affects others given the lack of resources available to DCPS. If this is were just a case of being able to throw some additional money at virtual options, pretty sure no one would care that you want to stay home until it's "safe". But that is not the case, and people don't want their in-person experience ruined to accommodate a minority of parents, most of whom sound like they need health anxiety therapy instead of actually needing a virtual option.

This is exactly it. 7 pages of people complaining about equity when they very obviously are just worried about being inconvenienced

+1 it’s the schools open at all costs folks freaking out that this will affect them (it won’t) and doing it in the name of abused kids that they really don’t give an F about.

Admit you don't care about child safety or education of anyone but your own kids.

it still amazes me even after all these months that “open schools at all costs” has somehow become an insult to some weird faction on the left. what a rabbit hole when your wokeness is in direct opposition to unicef.

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/statement-reopening-schools-cannot-wait

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How hard is it to apply for homeschooling? I know someone who is keeping her kids home and I think they are doing home school but she hasn’t applied for reasons I don’t understand.

narcissism plain and simple. it’s not hard at all.

she wants to keep her charter/oob spot. that's it.

if she's supporting this bill, then she simultaneously doesn't care about the repercussions to other kids.

[Anonymous]

the Council could have recommended some structure whereby people homeschool AND keep their charter spot. But no. Just entitled parents and a pandering Council too trapped in their bubbles to understand the ramifications of their actions on others.

here's the Homeschool application for DC: https://osse.dc.gov/service/homeschooling-district-columbia

[Anonymous]

from that homeschool page: "Compulsory education requires that all children between the ages of five and seventeen who reside in the District of Columbia receive an education."

How does the Council's bill guarantee that children are receiving a compulsory education?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How hard is it to apply for homeschooling? I know someone who is keeping her kids home and I think they are doing home school but she hasn’t applied for reasons I don’t understand.

narcissism plain and simple. it’s not hard at all.

It’s narcissism and a belief that they are doing a civil disobedience in service of (I shit you not) protecting children from death and maiming due to COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How hard is it to apply for homeschooling? I know someone who is keeping her kids home and I think they are doing home school but she hasn’t applied for reasons I don’t understand.

narcissism plain and simple. it’s not hard at all.

It’s narcissism and a belief that they are doing a civil disobedience in service of (I shit you not) protecting children from death and maiming due to COVID.

Like, there are actual ways to do this -- homeschool would be one -- that didn't make it legal to just not have your kid receive any education at all for 3 months.

Even the structure of the bill could be written that homeschool is possible for 3 months without losing the charter/oob spot, but you have to apply for homeschool.

[Anonymous]

of pertinence:

https://responsiblehomeschooling.org/advocacy/policy/abuse-in-homeschooling-environments/

"While there are homeschooled children who experience a positive, child-centered learning environment at home, this is not always the case: some parents take advantage of states’ minimal homeschooling laws to isolate or abuse children.

There are several things to note:

Unlike children who attend public school, children who are homeschooled are not seen regularly by mandatory reporters such as teachers or school staff.

Isolation is a known risk factor for abuse. While many homeschooled children are not socially isolated, there are currently no protections in place for those who are.

Parents who homeschool have complete control over who their children have contact with; this may include isolating children from grandparents or other relatives.

Children who do not attend school often lack access to school district resources for health and wellness, such as medical and disability screenings, meal programs, and athletics opportunities.

In the vast majority of states, there are currently no protections in place for children who are homeschooled. This is the case despite a 2014 study finding that 47% of children who experience child torture were removed from school to be homeschooled (and another 29% were never enrolled in school), and a 2018 Connecticut study found that 36% of children removed from school to be homeschooled were subject to past child welfare reports."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is pumpkin mom???

Google "pumpkin thief mom DC". She's one of the major organizers of the 'virtual option' brigade. She's also on some educational advisory council (and therefore a public figure whose policies you can public disagree with).

Translation: my abhorrent mean girl behavior is totally fine!

disagreeing with a policy based on its problems = "mean girl behavior"

She’s truly got some major problems. Everyone laughs at her and feels bad for her kids.