Does Council bill just let people keep their kids home and not educate them?

[Anonymous]

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Because the 2-11 vaccines will have come out November-ish and this gives people enough time to get their kids vaccinated. Plus the end of term is in January. It’s a one semester exception based on the fact that WE’RE IN A F-ING PANDEMIC.

Does yelling and swearing work for you? Well, I guess you all did yell and swear at the Council long enough to get potential child neglect legalized.

You really need to get over yourself. Or don't and die mad. Either works for me.

I understand that you are good with creating legalized child abuse. And that makes you foul, and hurts the rest of your cause.

Honey, you don't even know what child abuse really is nor do you get the difference between child abuse and neglect. If you are not educating your child it is a form of neglect but really no one cares. Just like no one cares when parents refuse to help with the homework or education outside of the school and expect the schools to do everything and when the kids are failing, they don't hold the schools or parents accountable.

Vaccines will help stop symptoms. You can still get and transmit covid so stop acting like the vaccine is the cure. Its a huge help, but its far from a cure.

So you are arguing that it is ok that no one cares about educational neglect? Effing yikes. I mean, maybe they don’t but it isn’t a GOOD thing.

And…yeah you are still going to not send your kid in after they are vaccinated, aren’t you. Or you just aren’t going to vaccinate.

I really hope the rest of the people that argued for this legislation are paying attention to this poster, so you can see why a lot of us looked at all of this askance.

[Anonymous]

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Because the 2-11 vaccines will have come out November-ish and this gives people enough time to get their kids vaccinated. Plus the end of term is in January. It’s a one semester exception based on the fact that WE’RE IN A F-ING PANDEMIC.

Does yelling and swearing work for you? Well, I guess you all did yell and swear at the Council long enough to get potential child neglect legalized.

You really need to get over yourself. Or don't and die mad. Either works for me.

I understand that you are good with creating legalized child abuse. And that makes you foul, and hurts the rest of your cause.

Honey, you don't even know what child abuse really is nor do you get the difference between child abuse and neglect. If you are not educating your child it is a form of neglect but really no one cares. Just like no one cares when parents refuse to help with the homework or education outside of the school and expect the schools to do everything and when the kids are failing, they don't hold the schools or parents accountable.

Vaccines will help stop symptoms. You can still get and transmit covid so stop acting like the vaccine is the cure. Its a huge help, but its far from a cure.

So you are arguing that it is ok that no one cares about educational neglect? Effing yikes. I mean, maybe they don’t but it isn’t a GOOD thing.

And…yeah you are still going to not send your kid in after they are vaccinated, aren’t you. Or you just aren’t going to vaccinate.

I really hope the rest of the people that argued for this legislation are paying attention to this poster, so you can see why a lot of us looked at all of this askance.

But also CPS referred 30% of the families they were looking at for a more serious investigation. PP is wrong that they don't care about neglect. Maybe she didn't and that's why she doesn't work for CPS anymore (if she ever did).

[Anonymous]

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Because the 2-11 vaccines will have come out November-ish and this gives people enough time to get their kids vaccinated. Plus the end of term is in January. It’s a one semester exception based on the fact that WE’RE IN A F-ING PANDEMIC.

Does yelling and swearing work for you? Well, I guess you all did yell and swear at the Council long enough to get potential child neglect legalized.

You really need to get over yourself. Or don't and die mad. Either works for me.

I understand that you are good with creating legalized child abuse. And that makes you foul, and hurts the rest of your cause.

Honey, you don't even know what child abuse really is nor do you get the difference between child abuse and neglect. If you are not educating your child it is a form of neglect but really no one cares. Just like no one cares when parents refuse to help with the homework or education outside of the school and expect the schools to do everything and when the kids are failing, they don't hold the schools or parents accountable.

Vaccines will help stop symptoms. You can still get and transmit covid so stop acting like the vaccine is the cure. Its a huge help, but its far from a cure.

So uh, if a vaccine isn't the endgame for you, what is? You probably do need to let go of whatever charter or oob slot you have.

[Anonymous]

That PP is making the prior point that some people aren’t going to be satisfied after 3 months.

[Anonymous]

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Because the 2-11 vaccines will have come out November-ish and this gives people enough time to get their kids vaccinated. Plus the end of term is in January. It’s a one semester exception based on the fact that WE’RE IN A F-ING PANDEMIC.

Does yelling and swearing work for you? Well, I guess you all did yell and swear at the Council long enough to get potential child neglect legalized.

You really need to get over yourself. Or don't and die mad. Either works for me.

I understand that you are good with creating legalized child abuse. And that makes you foul, and hurts the rest of your cause.

Honey, you don't even know what child abuse really is nor do you get the difference between child abuse and neglect. If you are not educating your child it is a form of neglect but really no one cares. Just like no one cares when parents refuse to help with the homework or education outside of the school and expect the schools to do everything and when the kids are failing, they don't hold the schools or parents accountable.

Vaccines will help stop symptoms. You can still get and transmit covid so stop acting like the vaccine is the cure. Its a huge help, but its far from a cure.

So uh, if a vaccine isn't the endgame for you, what is? You probably do need to let go of whatever charter or oob slot you have.

I don't even know if this person is trying to hold onto a spot. If they are the same person as upthread, they also professed to think all but one teacher their kids have ever had were bad.

[Anonymous]

I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

I am a PP who thinks all of you drama queens are being totally ridiculous about this bill. My kids are in school. But I understand that I'm lucky that everyone in my household is low risk for COVID. I am not put in the position of having to choose to keep my kids home for a few months until they themselves can be vaccinated, because the stupid mayor doesn't think a high risk sibling or a high risk parent is a good enough reason to have virtual school. I don't have to choose between playing chicken with DCPS for a few months (and risk CPS getting called of all ridiculous-ass things) or sending them to school risking my own life or the life of my kid's grandma or the life of one of my children.

In other words, I have empathy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

I am a PP who thinks all of you drama queens are being totally ridiculous about this bill. My kids are in school. But I understand that I'm lucky that everyone in my household is low risk for COVID. I am not put in the position of having to choose to keep my kids home for a few months until they themselves can be vaccinated, because the stupid mayor doesn't think a high risk sibling or a high risk parent is a good enough reason to have virtual school. I don't have to choose between playing chicken with DCPS for a few months (and risk CPS getting called of all ridiculous-ass things) or sending them to school risking my own life or the life of my kid's grandma or the life of one of my children.

In other words, I have empathy.

You are talking to the wrong person (I have not posted on this thread before, so I am not one of the “drama queens”, although I do agree with their concerns, which aren’t about the part of the legislation that allows parents to seek a medical exemption due to a high-risk household member), and if your kids are in school, I am not talking about you. I am referring to the posters above who are saying that even for their low-risk kids, school is too dangerous, with one hinting that even after vaccination, it will still not be safe.

Maybe you should actually follow the discussion before accusing anyone of lacking empathy. Clearly many have empathy with kids who are unnecessarily deprived of school, and possibly being neglected as this legislation makes that awfully easy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

I am a PP who thinks all of you drama queens are being totally ridiculous about this bill. My kids are in school. But I understand that I'm lucky that everyone in my household is low risk for COVID. I am not put in the position of having to choose to keep my kids home for a few months until they themselves can be vaccinated, because the stupid mayor doesn't think a high risk sibling or a high risk parent is a good enough reason to have virtual school. I don't have to choose between playing chicken with DCPS for a few months (and risk CPS getting called of all ridiculous-ass things) or sending them to school risking my own life or the life of my kid's grandma or the life of one of my children.

In other words, I have empathy.

you never had to choose. you could have homeschooled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

I am a PP who thinks all of you drama queens are being totally ridiculous about this bill. My kids are in school. But I understand that I'm lucky that everyone in my household is low risk for COVID. I am not put in the position of having to choose to keep my kids home for a few months until they themselves can be vaccinated, because the stupid mayor doesn't think a high risk sibling or a high risk parent is a good enough reason to have virtual school. I don't have to choose between playing chicken with DCPS for a few months (and risk CPS getting called of all ridiculous-ass things) or sending them to school risking my own life or the life of my kid's grandma or the life of one of my children.

In other words, I have empathy.

you never had to choose. you could have homeschooled.

Reading comprehension. My kids are in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

I am a PP who thinks all of you drama queens are being totally ridiculous about this bill. My kids are in school. But I understand that I'm lucky that everyone in my household is low risk for COVID. I am not put in the position of having to choose to keep my kids home for a few months until they themselves can be vaccinated, because the stupid mayor doesn't think a high risk sibling or a high risk parent is a good enough reason to have virtual school. I don't have to choose between playing chicken with DCPS for a few months (and risk CPS getting called of all ridiculous-ass things) or sending them to school risking my own life or the life of my kid's grandma or the life of one of my children.

In other words, I have empathy.

you never had to choose. you could have homeschooled.

Reading comprehension. My kids are in school.

DP. But apparently you lack reading comprehension on what this ENTIRE thread is about, which is NOT about high risk kids, or kids in high risk families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

I am a PP who thinks all of you drama queens are being totally ridiculous about this bill. My kids are in school. But I understand that I'm lucky that everyone in my household is low risk for COVID. I am not put in the position of having to choose to keep my kids home for a few months until they themselves can be vaccinated, because the stupid mayor doesn't think a high risk sibling or a high risk parent is a good enough reason to have virtual school. I don't have to choose between playing chicken with DCPS for a few months (and risk CPS getting called of all ridiculous-ass things) or sending them to school risking my own life or the life of my kid's grandma or the life of one of my children.

In other words, I have empathy.

You are talking to the wrong person (I have not posted on this thread before, so I am not one of the “drama queens”, although I do agree with their concerns, which aren’t about the part of the legislation that allows parents to seek a medical exemption due to a high-risk household member), and if your kids are in school, I am not talking about you. I am referring to the posters above who are saying that even for their low-risk kids, school is too dangerous, with one hinting that even after vaccination, it will still not be safe.

Maybe you should actually follow the discussion before accusing anyone of lacking empathy. Clearly many have empathy with kids who are unnecessarily deprived of school, and possibly being neglected as this legislation makes that awfully easy.

And it's not just that they are keeping their kids away from school. It's that the Council bill doesn't require that they EDUCATE THIER CHILDREN if they keep them home. There is no requirement to file homeschool paperwork, for example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

I am a PP who thinks all of you drama queens are being totally ridiculous about this bill. My kids are in school. But I understand that I'm lucky that everyone in my household is low risk for COVID. I am not put in the position of having to choose to keep my kids home for a few months until they themselves can be vaccinated, because the stupid mayor doesn't think a high risk sibling or a high risk parent is a good enough reason to have virtual school. I don't have to choose between playing chicken with DCPS for a few months (and risk CPS getting called of all ridiculous-ass things) or sending them to school risking my own life or the life of my kid's grandma or the life of one of my children.

In other words, I have empathy.

you never had to choose. you could have homeschooled.

Reading comprehension. My kids are in school.

DP. But apparently you lack reading comprehension on what this ENTIRE thread is about, which is NOT about high risk kids, or kids in high risk families.

Actually, if you had been following this in the news for the months leading up to this legislation, that's exactly what it's about. The Council repeatedly tried to get the mayor to expand the virtual option so that people with legitimate concerns would be able to join, the mayor refused, and this is the consequence.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Anonymous]

Seriously all the Council would have to do to correct the problem is allow these people to do dual enrollment in their 'home' school and also homeschool. So that way you have some expression that these parents are going to educate their kids, and you could also discern them from the ones who really just aren't doing anything at all.

I'd imagine this still causes a problem for schools (I don't know the intricacies of that), but if the parents aren't asking schools for resources, and they aren't burdening CPS, then I don't see the problem.


(beyond, potentially, kids being traumatized by parents with potentially untreated anxiety disorders) (but it's not like the untreated anxiety disorders with repercussions on kids are confined to the parents keeping their kids home)

I wonder why the parent group pushing for this legislation didn't push for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really feel sorry for the kids of all these over anxious parents, who are depriving them of the experience of going to school and learning together with their peers.

I am a PP who thinks all of you drama queens are being totally ridiculous about this bill. My kids are in school. But I understand that I'm lucky that everyone in my household is low risk for COVID. I am not put in the position of having to choose to keep my kids home for a few months until they themselves can be vaccinated, because the stupid mayor doesn't think a high risk sibling or a high risk parent is a good enough reason to have virtual school. I don't have to choose between playing chicken with DCPS for a few months (and risk CPS getting called of all ridiculous-ass things) or sending them to school risking my own life or the life of my kid's grandma or the life of one of my children.

In other words, I have empathy.

you never had to choose. you could have homeschooled.

Reading comprehension. My kids are in school.

DP. But apparently you lack reading comprehension on what this ENTIRE thread is about, which is NOT about high risk kids, or kids in high risk families.

Actually, if you had been following this in the news for the months leading up to this legislation, that's exactly what it's about. The Council repeatedly tried to get the mayor to expand the virtual option so that people with legitimate concerns would be able to join, the mayor refused, and this is the consequence.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

No, this thread is not about the kids with medical needs or in families with medical needs. This thread is about a separate section of the legislation that could have easily been left out. Just because you said "actually" doesn't make you correct.

I thought all along that it was problematic to allow "just scared" parents to keep their kids home (without medical needs or without being in families with medical needs), without disenrolling them or requiring them to homeschool. For the exact reasons we are discussing in this thread (and which seem to be found among at least 30 cases that have CPS is looking into further).