Anyone know what the Middle School Magnet Process will be like this year?

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Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.

Exactly! mcps is following the 85% so that they can also get some minority groups into the lottery and then they can “randomly” select a higher number of AA and Latinos then previous years. While in the process removing a good chunk of Asians from the mix.

while also increasing the number of whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

That is what they used to do. As recently as about 5 years ago.

I went to the MCPS meeting where they first started saying they would be accepting 85%ile kids from some schools and 90%ile kids from other schools. They made it clear that there would be a shift from accepting the ‘highest’ performing kids, to higher performing kids from lower-performing schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Just announced:
https://connectdocs.blackboard.com/broadcasts/Docs/caf1a3dfb505ffed0d024130f58c5cfa/36ad00e6-f1e8-4cdf-87c1-d993c7f5ea4d.pdf?ticket=t_VvtAf85J&xythos-download=true

Lottery pool again this year.

Yes it is. Wondering why no CoGAt inspite of schools functioning in person

Easier to manipulate the data without a pesky test to get in the way.

Exactly.

I am pretty amazed by the caliber of students in my DS’ CES this year. Way, way below what it has been in the past. Nice kids, but definitely not the super high-achieving, highly motivated students from the past. Some may argue that this will be a good thing (and maybe it will be) because it will be lower pressure.

But it is definitely clear that these centers are not meant to cater to the very, very top percentile of students.

Is the very top percentile of students the same as the highly motivated high-achieving students? My son was at CES, and had 99% MAPs, but wasn't particularly highly motivated. He liked to chit-chat, play soccer, and read. If school work interested him, he got into it. But if it wasn't interesting, he'd just read a book instead. I think he read more books than any of the other kids at CES, but he definitely wasn't the most highly motivated or the highest achieving.

Was he White? What year was he in the CES.

White kids are still allowed and welcomed in the CES. It’s the Asians that MCPS wants to get rid of.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.

They will 100% get their wish.

I went to college with a good number of Asians and have many Asian friends. I would not encourage them to move to MoCo. Or really, this area in general. It is clear that the school system isn’t looking to support and enrich and encourage Asian students to reach their potential. That would go directly against the goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

I remember, before Covid, there was a big push for the hashtag #blackgirlmagic. I have had kids in MCPS for 6 years and never once have seen them hashtag #asiangirlmagic.

There is this strange underlying assumption that if an AA or Latino student achieves something, it is somehow worth more than if an Asian students achieves something.

I think that stems from the hyperfocus on race that comes from the top down. Highlight kids achievements and quit focusing on skin color.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.

They will 100% get their wish.

I went to college with a good number of Asians and have many Asian friends. I would not encourage them to move to MoCo. Or really, this area in general. It is clear that the school system isn’t looking to support and enrich and encourage Asian students to reach their potential. That would go directly against the goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

I remember, before Covid, there was a big push for the hashtag #blackgirlmagic. I have had kids in MCPS for 6 years and never once have seen them hashtag #asiangirlmagic.

There is this strange underlying assumption that if an AA or Latino student achieves something, it is somehow worth more than if an Asian students achieves something.

I think that stems from the hyperfocus on race that comes from the top down. Highlight kids achievements and quit focusing on skin color.

Well said!

[Anonymous]

Remember the Metis Report?

MCPS spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a consultant to develop the Metis Report, held several public meetings attended by hundreds, and then spent hundreds of staff hours to develop the previous admissions method using peer groups and local norms.

They were sued.

They quickly and quietly threw away the whole program, without any public discussion whatsoever.

Your tax dollars at work!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember the Metis Report?

MCPS spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a consultant to develop the Metis Report, held several public meetings attended by hundreds, and then spent hundreds of staff hours to develop the previous admissions method using peer groups and local norms.

They were sued.

They quickly and quietly threw away the whole program, without any public discussion whatsoever.

Your tax dollars at work!

Are you mentioning this to show why mcps cancelled the cohort grouping for magnetschool admission and changed it to the lottery system? Just trying to understand better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.

They will 100% get their wish.

I went to college with a good number of Asians and have many Asian friends. I would not encourage them to move to MoCo. Or really, this area in general. It is clear that the school system isn’t looking to support and enrich and encourage Asian students to reach their potential. That would go directly against the goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

I remember, before Covid, there was a big push for the hashtag #blackgirlmagic. I have had kids in MCPS for 6 years and never once have seen them hashtag #asiangirlmagic.

There is this strange underlying assumption that if an AA or Latino student achieves something, it is somehow worth more than if an Asian students achieves something.

I think that stems from the hyperfocus on race that comes from the top down. Highlight kids achievements and quit focusing on skin color.

How many times have you seen #whitegirlmagic?
Honest question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember the Metis Report?

MCPS spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a consultant to develop the Metis Report, held several public meetings attended by hundreds, and then spent hundreds of staff hours to develop the previous admissions method using peer groups and local norms.

They were sued.

They quickly and quietly threw away the whole program, without any public discussion whatsoever.

Your tax dollars at work!

Are you mentioning this to show why mcps cancelled the cohort grouping for magnetschool admission and changed it to the lottery system? Just trying to understand better.

By the last line it seems they are try to criticize MCPS, instead of seeing that MCPS tried to do the correct thing. They hired an independent firm to consult and document. Held public meetings so the community would be advised and have opportunity to comment/provide feedback. Spent time developing criteria. Then we’re sued for their efforts. It’s why MCPS can’t win and keeps outside lawyers on retainer.

If they had compiled the info themselves folks would have claimed bias and poor understanding/research by MCPS staff. If they hadn’t held meetings, folks would have claimed lack of transparency and dishonesty. If they hadn’t taken time, they would have been accused of rushing it and being careless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember the Metis Report?

MCPS spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a consultant to develop the Metis Report, held several public meetings attended by hundreds, and then spent hundreds of staff hours to develop the previous admissions method using peer groups and local norms.

They were sued.

They quickly and quietly threw away the whole program, without any public discussion whatsoever.

Your tax dollars at work!

Are you mentioning this to show why mcps cancelled the cohort grouping for magnetschool admission and changed it to the lottery system? Just trying to understand better.

By the last line it seems they are try to criticize MCPS, instead of seeing that MCPS tried to do the correct thing. They hired an independent firm to consult and document. Held public meetings so the community would be advised and have opportunity to comment/provide feedback. Spent time developing criteria. Then we’re sued for their efforts. It’s why MCPS can’t win and keeps outside lawyers on retainer.

If they had compiled the info themselves folks would have claimed bias and poor understanding/research by MCPS staff. If they hadn’t held meetings, folks would have claimed lack of transparency and dishonesty. If they hadn’t taken time, they would have been accused of rushing it and being careless.

DP

I get the impression that the PP was trying to highlight how MCPS consistently wastes millions of taxpayer dollars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.

They will 100% get their wish.

I went to college with a good number of Asians and have many Asian friends. I would not encourage them to move to MoCo. Or really, this area in general. It is clear that the school system isn’t looking to support and enrich and encourage Asian students to reach their potential. That would go directly against the goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

I remember, before Covid, there was a big push for the hashtag #blackgirlmagic. I have had kids in MCPS for 6 years and never once have seen them hashtag #asiangirlmagic.

There is this strange underlying assumption that if an AA or Latino student achieves something, it is somehow worth more than if an Asian students achieves something.

I think that stems from the hyperfocus on race that comes from the top down. Highlight kids achievements and quit focusing on skin color.

How many times have you seen #whitegirlmagic?
Honest question.

Never. And that’s why it’s all ridiculous. Yet, the #blackgirlmagic hashtag was staunchly defended and celebrated on this site.

This crazy, racist idea that we need to highlight a kids’ race to acknowledge achievement? I don’t think there should be an #asiangirlmagic hashtag either. It’s all part of ‘othering’.

If the principal at Richard Montgomery wants to highlight #rocketgirlmagic, that is totally appropriate. Helps bring the school community together and fosters a feeling of being part of one school. Instead, MCPS wants to focus on how students are ‘different’.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.

They will 100% get their wish.

I went to college with a good number of Asians and have many Asian friends. I would not encourage them to move to MoCo. Or really, this area in general. It is clear that the school system isn’t looking to support and enrich and encourage Asian students to reach their potential. That would go directly against the goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

I remember, before Covid, there was a big push for the hashtag #blackgirlmagic. I have had kids in MCPS for 6 years and never once have seen them hashtag #asiangirlmagic.

There is this strange underlying assumption that if an AA or Latino student achieves something, it is somehow worth more than if an Asian students achieves something.

I think that stems from the hyperfocus on race that comes from the top down. Highlight kids achievements and quit focusing on skin color.

How many times have you seen #whitegirlmagic?
Honest question.

Never. And that’s why it’s all ridiculous. Yet, the #blackgirlmagic hashtag was staunchly defended and celebrated on this site.

This crazy, racist idea that we need to highlight a kids’ race to acknowledge achievement? I don’t think there should be an #asiangirlmagic hashtag either. It’s all part of ‘othering’.

If the principal at Richard Montgomery wants to highlight #rocketgirlmagic, that is totally appropriate. Helps bring the school community together and fosters a feeling of being part of one school. Instead, MCPS wants to focus on how students are ‘different’.

It is crazy. What is black girl? Someone with Nigerian, Jamaican, Ethiopian, Haitian immigrant parents? What is Latino girl? Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Guatemalan? What is Asian girl? Chinese, Korean, Indian. Stop this nonsense of dividing kids for political purposes - I am looking at you - self serving progressives. Don't make MCPS a playground for your unthinking savior BS. Work hard like the kids who are trying to Excel. Don't promote lotteries for social engineering so you guys can get brownie points and keep people down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.

They will 100% get their wish.

I went to college with a good number of Asians and have many Asian friends. I would not encourage them to move to MoCo. Or really, this area in general. It is clear that the school system isn’t looking to support and enrich and encourage Asian students to reach their potential. That would go directly against the goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

I remember, before Covid, there was a big push for the hashtag #blackgirlmagic. I have had kids in MCPS for 6 years and never once have seen them hashtag #asiangirlmagic.

There is this strange underlying assumption that if an AA or Latino student achieves something, it is somehow worth more than if an Asian students achieves something.

I think that stems from the hyperfocus on race that comes from the top down. Highlight kids achievements and quit focusing on skin color.

How many times have you seen #whitegirlmagic?
Honest question.

Never. And that’s why it’s all ridiculous. Yet, the #blackgirlmagic hashtag was staunchly defended and celebrated on this site.

This crazy, racist idea that we need to highlight a kids’ race to acknowledge achievement? I don’t think there should be an #asiangirlmagic hashtag either. It’s all part of ‘othering’.

If the principal at Richard Montgomery wants to highlight #rocketgirlmagic, that is totally appropriate. Helps bring the school community together and fosters a feeling of being part of one school. Instead, MCPS wants to focus on how students are ‘different’.

It is crazy. What is black girl? Someone with Nigerian, Jamaican, Ethiopian, Haitian immigrant parents? What is Latino girl? Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Guatemalan? What is Asian girl? Chinese, Korean, Indian. Stop this nonsense of dividing kids for political purposes - I am looking at you - self serving progressives. Don't make MCPS a playground for your unthinking savior BS. Work hard like the kids who are trying to Excel. Don't promote lotteries for social engineering so you guys can get brownie points and keep people down.

But why not? It is easy to destroy. And we can claim a quick victory.

[Anonymous]

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But why not? It is easy to destroy. And we can claim a quick victory.

The 4 middle school magnet programs enroll 400 students. That's top 400/12000=3.3% of the students.

Now they have a lottery for the top 15%. With local norming, some in the top 20% or 25% are included in the lottery.

Instead of programs for the top 3.3%, they now have programs for the top 20% or 25%.

These are not the same programs, and I don't see how they can keep the same rigor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.

Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.

Exactly! mcps is following the 85% so that they can also get some minority groups into the lottery and then they can “randomly” select a higher number of AA and Latinos then previous years. While in the process removing a good chunk of Asians from the mix.

while also increasing the number of whites.

It's shameful and I don't think history is going to look too kindly on this blatant pretextual discrimination.