Anyone know what the Middle School Magnet Process will be like this year?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rest in Peace Middle School Magnets. What you once were you will be no longer. I think MCPS should change the description on the website now so it stops claiming it is for the highly able academic learners. If they want to change it and keep it like this - with no COGAT and an 85th percentile cutoff for MAP scores- then they need to change their claims of the magnet existing to meet the needs of MCPS highly gifted students who need more challenge and rigor.


Yeah. Least they can do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rest in Peace Middle School Magnets. What you once were you will be no longer. I think MCPS should change the description on the website now so it stops claiming it is for the highly able academic learners. If they want to change it and keep it like this - with no COGAT and an 85th percentile cutoff for MAP scores- then they need to change their claims of the magnet existing to meet the needs of MCPS highly gifted students who need more challenge and rigor.


Yeah. Least they can do.

Totally agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just announced:
https://connectdocs.blackboard.com/broadcasts/Docs/caf1a3dfb505ffed0d024130f58c5cfa/36ad00e6-f1e8-4cdf-87c1-d993c7f5ea4d.pdf?ticket=t_VvtAf85J&xythos-download=true

Lottery pool again this year.


Yes it is. Wondering why no CoGAt inspite of schools functioning in person


Easier to manipulate the data without a pesky test to get in the way.


OMG OMG OMG The sky is falling! You realize they scheduled the CogAT this year and the only reason it was suspended was the test owners wouldn't let them administer it online.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just announced:
https://connectdocs.blackboard.com/broadcasts/Docs/caf1a3dfb505ffed0d024130f58c5cfa/36ad00e6-f1e8-4cdf-87c1-d993c7f5ea4d.pdf?ticket=t_VvtAf85J&xythos-download=true

Lottery pool again this year.


Yes it is. Wondering why no CoGAt inspite of schools functioning in person


Easier to manipulate the data without a pesky test to get in the way.


OMG OMG OMG The sky is falling! You realize they scheduled the CogAT this year and the only reason it was suspended was the test owners wouldn't let them administer it online.

And what's keeping them from administering it this year? During in-person classes?
Exactly. The pesky test does get in the way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rest in Peace Middle School Magnets. What you once were you will be no longer. I think MCPS should change the description on the website now so it stops claiming it is for the highly able academic learners. If they want to change it and keep it like this - with no COGAT and an 85th percentile cutoff for MAP scores- then they need to change their claims of the magnet existing to meet the needs of MCPS highly gifted students who need more challenge and rigor.


Yeah. People on here have been saying that this was the goal for years and I thought it was a bit of an exaggeration. But, looks like those posters were correct. MCPS wanted to get rid of the Magnets. They were doing nothing to support the primary MCPS goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

They will eventually have to change the description. The magnets are most certainly, no longer meant to be for the ‘best and brightest’ of all students. Just some randomly chosen (but not really quite random) students based on location and school FARMS rates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just announced:
https://connectdocs.blackboard.com/broadcasts/Docs/caf1a3dfb505ffed0d024130f58c5cfa/36ad00e6-f1e8-4cdf-87c1-d993c7f5ea4d.pdf?ticket=t_VvtAf85J&xythos-download=true

Lottery pool again this year.


Yes it is. Wondering why no CoGAt inspite of schools functioning in person


Easier to manipulate the data without a pesky test to get in the way.


Exactly.

I am pretty amazed by the caliber of students in my DS’ CES this year. Way, way below what it has been in the past. Nice kids, but definitely not the super high-achieving, highly motivated students from the past. Some may argue that this will be a good thing (and maybe it will be) because it will be lower pressure.

But it is definitely clear that these centers are not meant to cater to the very, very top percentile of students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rest in Peace Middle School Magnets. What you once were you will be no longer. I think MCPS should change the description on the website now so it stops claiming it is for the highly able academic learners. If they want to change it and keep it like this - with no COGAT and an 85th percentile cutoff for MAP scores- then they need to change their claims of the magnet existing to meet the needs of MCPS highly gifted students who need more challenge and rigor.


Yeah. People on here have been saying that this was the goal for years and I thought it was a bit of an exaggeration. But, looks like those posters were correct. MCPS wanted to get rid of the Magnets. They were doing nothing to support the primary MCPS goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

They will eventually have to change the description. The magnets are most certainly, no longer meant to be for the ‘best and brightest’ of all students. Just some randomly chosen (but not really quite random) students based on location and school FARMS rates.


It is over. Slippery slope leading to the bottom. Enjoy your magnet schools progressive white parents. You did it!
Anonymous
Yeah, right. Four weeks in and you're already making judgements? I've had exactly the opposite experience but at least I know well enough realize it's still early in the year. I doubt your child is even in CES.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just announced:
https://connectdocs.blackboard.com/broadcasts/Docs/caf1a3dfb505ffed0d024130f58c5cfa/36ad00e6-f1e8-4cdf-87c1-d993c7f5ea4d.pdf?ticket=t_VvtAf85J&xythos-download=true

Lottery pool again this year.


Yes it is. Wondering why no CoGAt inspite of schools functioning in person


Easier to manipulate the data without a pesky test to get in the way.


OMG OMG OMG The sky is falling! You realize they scheduled the CogAT this year and the only reason it was suspended was the test owners wouldn't let them administer it online.


After two years of lottery, you think they will go back to a test next year? No chance. It is over unless there is a legal challenge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, right. Four weeks in and you're already making judgements? I've had exactly the opposite experience but at least I know well enough realize it's still early in the year. I doubt your child is even in CES.


Which CES is your child in? Some CES programs have been hit differently than others, depending on which schools they pull from.

My neighbor is a CES teacher. She has taught in the CES for over a decade. She and I talk all the time and she has admitted that the students in the CES 10 years ago were truly phenomenally talented kids. She has seen such a difference in the past 3 years especially.

This year, at the Virtual Open House, about 1/3 of the parents showed up. A decade ago? Pretty much every parent showed up.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rest in Peace Middle School Magnets. What you once were you will be no longer. I think MCPS should change the description on the website now so it stops claiming it is for the highly able academic learners. If they want to change it and keep it like this - with no COGAT and an 85th percentile cutoff for MAP scores- then they need to change their claims of the magnet existing to meet the needs of MCPS highly gifted students who need more challenge and rigor.


Yeah. People on here have been saying that this was the goal for years and I thought it was a bit of an exaggeration. But, looks like those posters were correct. MCPS wanted to get rid of the Magnets. They were doing nothing to support the primary MCPS goal of closing the Achievement Gap.

They will eventually have to change the description. The magnets are most certainly, no longer meant to be for the ‘best and brightest’ of all students. Just some randomly chosen (but not really quite random) students based on location and school FARMS rates.


It is over. Slippery slope leading to the bottom. Enjoy your magnet schools progressive white parents. You did it!


The ‘progressive white parents’ don’t care one bit. They were some of the first to pull their kids out last year for private school when they saw that MCPS was a lost cause.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just announced:
https://connectdocs.blackboard.com/broadcasts/Docs/caf1a3dfb505ffed0d024130f58c5cfa/36ad00e6-f1e8-4cdf-87c1-d993c7f5ea4d.pdf?ticket=t_VvtAf85J&xythos-download=true

Lottery pool again this year.


Yes it is. Wondering why no CoGAt inspite of schools functioning in person


Easier to manipulate the data without a pesky test to get in the way.


Exactly.

I am pretty amazed by the caliber of students in my DS’ CES this year. Way, way below what it has been in the past. Nice kids, but definitely not the super high-achieving, highly motivated students from the past. Some may argue that this will be a good thing (and maybe it will be) because it will be lower pressure.

But it is definitely clear that these centers are not meant to cater to the very, very top percentile of students.


Is the very top percentile of students the same as the highly motivated high-achieving students? My son was at CES, and had 99% MAPs, but wasn't particularly highly motivated. He liked to chit-chat, play soccer, and read. If school work interested him, he got into it. But if it wasn't interesting, he'd just read a book instead. I think he read more books than any of the other kids at CES, but he definitely wasn't the most highly motivated or the highest achieving.
Anonymous
85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.


Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:85% doesn't seem to make much sense. That's just like okay smart. They should use at least 90%, or maybe something like 90% or above for last two years, plus at least one score about 95%. And then lottery from there. That would probably create a pretty good pool of kids.


Are you dense? above 95% will lead to same old asian contingent. the purpose is to purge the asians.


Exactly! mcps is following the 85% so that they can also get some minority groups into the lottery and then they can “randomly” select a higher number of AA and Latinos then previous years. While in the process removing a good chunk of Asians from the mix.
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