Let’s cut to the chase and furlough teachers.

Anonymous
DL in Maryland is a joke. Let’s face it and save our money for a real education when public health permits it. The school can keep posting the random worksheets it doesn’t grade and the YouTube videos of other teachers. One teacher can do that for each grade in that state while we furlough the others. Then those teachers won’t need to whine about how hard it is to teach with their child care responsibilities.

We can treat these teachers equally to school nurses, bus drivers, custodians and paraeducators who have been struggling. And we can balance our budget this year and save the $ for real improvement in the future. I would much rather return to regular school but until that can be done let’s treat all our education professionals equally. Or if teachers want to actually teach live and grade like they really want to educate I am all for paying them. But paying them to sit at home and whine about how online is hard while they each post the same videos as the other 200 teachers in the district without follow up is not ok.

Flame away but we don’t have the extra money for fluff anymore. There are lots of virtual teaching jobs out there for those who actually teach that could be had by teachers who , as they say, actually want to teach.

Anonymous
ok, but what happens when you need them again and they have fled to other districts?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: DL in Maryland is a joke. Let’s face it and save our money for a real education when public health permits it. The school can keep posting the random worksheets it doesn’t grade and the YouTube videos of other teachers. One teacher can do that for each grade in that state while we furlough the others. Then those teachers won’t need to whine about how hard it is to teach with their child care responsibilities.

We can treat these teachers equally to school nurses, bus drivers, custodians and paraeducators who have been struggling. And we can balance our budget this year and save the $ for real improvement in the future. I would much rather return to regular school but until that can be done let’s treat all our education professionals equally. Or if teachers want to actually teach live and grade like they really want to educate I am all for paying them. But paying them to sit at home and whine about how online is hard while they each post the same videos as the other 200 teachers in the district without follow up is not ok.

Flame away but we don’t have the extra money for fluff anymore. There are lots of virtual teaching jobs out there for those who actually teach that could be had by teachers who , as they say, actually want to teach.



Where do you teach that those employees were furloughed? I live across from an ES. The building service staff have been reporting.
Anonymous

You're not going to get a tax reduction, OP.

You pay taxes to the state, and the state allocates the money where it pleases. Some of it goes to education. This year any extra will be for the pandemic.

Knowing this, does it change your opinion on furloughing teachers? If it doesn't, can we conclude you're just a spiteful, petty little person?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: DL in Maryland is a joke. Let’s face it and save our money for a real education when public health permits it. The school can keep posting the random worksheets it doesn’t grade and the YouTube videos of other teachers. One teacher can do that for each grade in that state while we furlough the others. Then those teachers won’t need to whine about how hard it is to teach with their child care responsibilities.

We can treat these teachers equally to school nurses, bus drivers, custodians and paraeducators who have been struggling. And we can balance our budget this year and save the $ for real improvement in the future. I would much rather return to regular school but until that can be done let’s treat all our education professionals equally. Or if teachers want to actually teach live and grade like they really want to educate I am all for paying them. But paying them to sit at home and whine about how online is hard while they each post the same videos as the other 200 teachers in the district without follow up is not ok.

Flame away but we don’t have the extra money for fluff anymore. There are lots of virtual teaching jobs out there for those who actually teach that could be had by teachers who , as they say, actually want to teach.



Baltimore. Where do you live that bus driver and paraeducators are working? Now that you mention it we may have had building services but not at full time during the pandemic.

Where do you teach that those employees were furloughed? I live across from an ES. The building service staff have been reporting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
You're not going to get a tax reduction, OP.

You pay taxes to the state, and the state allocates the money where it pleases. Some of it goes to education. This year any extra will be for the pandemic.

Knowing this, does it change your opinion on furloughing teachers? If it doesn't, can we conclude you're just a spiteful, petty little person?



No. I don’t change my mind. And no you can’t conclude that. We have a yawning budget deficit. Businesses that shut, including mine, stopped paying people who don’t work. Are my bosses spiteful and petty for having to make that tough decision? We would all like to be working. But if we cannot we also can’t afford to be paid to do so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:ok, but what happens when you need them again and they have fled to other districts?


What districts are hiring teachers right now? Is this like saying restaurants should pay chefs while they have no customers so that a competing restaurant doesn’t scoop them up ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ok, but what happens when you need them again and they have fled to other districts?


What districts are hiring teachers right now? Is this like saying restaurants should pay chefs while they have no customers so that a competing restaurant doesn’t scoop them up ?

I know a whole bunch of folks in Bethesda are willing to pay a pretty penny for a nanny/teacher. It’s pretty good income.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ok, but what happens when you need them again and they have fled to other districts?


What districts are hiring teachers right now? Is this like saying restaurants should pay chefs while they have no customers so that a competing restaurant doesn’t scoop them up ?

DCPS, APS, FCPS
Anonymous
“Then those teachers won’t need to whine about how hard it is to teach with their child care responsibilities.”

I’m not sure how you’re collecting this data, but I know well over 100 teachers in the county and none are whining about childcare. Yes, those with younger children want time to plan, but they are not complaining about it.


Seriously, who pissed on your Cheerios this morning?

Anonymous
OP, you are clearly a kind, understanding person, calling for people to lose their livelihood in these unprecedented times.
Anonymous
I don’t understand why people think that distance learning this fall will be the same as distance learning last spring. In the spring, there was zero time to plan for DL, and the districts and teachers did the best they could. I expect a lot more learning in my kids’ distance learning this fall because 1) there is more time to prepare and 2) they have this spring’s experience to learn from.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: DL in Maryland is a joke. Let’s face it and save our money for a real education when public health permits it. The school can keep posting the random worksheets it doesn’t grade and the YouTube videos of other teachers. One teacher can do that for each grade in that state while we furlough the others. Then those teachers won’t need to whine about how hard it is to teach with their child care responsibilities.

We can treat these teachers equally to school nurses, bus drivers, custodians and paraeducators who have been struggling. And we can balance our budget this year and save the $ for real improvement in the future. I would much rather return to regular school but until that can be done let’s treat all our education professionals equally. Or if teachers want to actually teach live and grade like they really want to educate I am all for paying them. But paying them to sit at home and whine about how online is hard while they each post the same videos as the other 200 teachers in the district without follow up is not ok.

Flame away but we don’t have the extra money for fluff anymore. There are lots of virtual teaching jobs out there for those who actually teach that could be had by teachers who , as they say, actually want to teach.



How old are your kids? What school cluster do they attend?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people think that distance learning this fall will be the same as distance learning last spring. In the spring, there was zero time to plan for DL, and the districts and teachers did the best they could. I expect a lot more learning in my kids’ distance learning this fall because 1) there is more time to prepare and 2) they have this spring’s experience to learn from.


While it’s true that teachers learned from the spring and will have more tricks up their sleeve for fall, they do not get paid for summer work and are likely to do only so much to prepare to do better for fall, especially since they don’t know what exactly they’re supposed to be preparing for. The district isn’t giving them much to go on. Also, the district isn’t making it easier by changing up the tech and putting restrictions on how much synchronous teaching time they can offer. So I wouldn’t hang your hopes on summer prep, in a nutshell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people think that distance learning this fall will be the same as distance learning last spring. In the spring, there was zero time to plan for DL, and the districts and teachers did the best they could. I expect a lot more learning in my kids’ distance learning this fall because 1) there is more time to prepare and 2) they have this spring’s experience to learn from.


While it’s true that teachers learned from the spring and will have more tricks up their sleeve for fall, they do not get paid for summer work and are likely to do only so much to prepare to do better for fall, especially since they don’t know what exactly they’re supposed to be preparing for. The district isn’t giving them much to go on. Also, the district isn’t making it easier by changing up the tech and putting restrictions on how much synchronous teaching time they can offer. So I wouldn’t hang your hopes on summer prep, in a nutshell.


I 100% agree with these two posters. MCPS is not good at planning and rolling things out. Going back decades: curriculum 2.0, the new ES grading system, edline to parent portal, change to CES centers.

They have not had much time to plan, a few weeks in the summer,awith reduced budgets, and while teachers can take classes about on line education, what is shoveled out to HS students came from central office and was not good. It won't be good in Fall either.
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