Let’s cut to the chase and furlough teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Have you heard of Kahn Academy? It's really great.

It's Khan Academy, actually. Also, if you think that Khan Academy is functionally equivalent to school, then I really don't know what to say.

Actually, it's better. If the student misses a question it asks them to keep trying and points them to extra help.
Far more than public school teachers do today.
Did you know teachers don't grade individual homework? They stand in front of the class, tell the correct answers and its up to your child to grade their own work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Have you heard of Kahn Academy? It's really great.

It's Khan Academy, actually. Also, if you think that Khan Academy is functionally equivalent to school, then I really don't know what to say.

Actually, it's better. If the student misses a question it asks them to keep trying and points them to extra help.
Far more than public school teachers do today.
Did you know teachers don't grade individual homework? They stand in front of the class, tell the correct answers and its up to your child to grade their own work.

We don't grade homework in ES because we don't know WHO did the homework. I wouldn't give homework to my students other than to study basic facts and read if I had my choice. I do give a lot of feedback on assignments done in class. Those help me better understand my students' individual needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Have you heard of Kahn Academy? It's really great.

It's Khan Academy, actually. Also, if you think that Khan Academy is functionally equivalent to school, then I really don't know what to say.

Actually, it's better. If the student misses a question it asks them to keep trying and points them to extra help.
Far more than public school teachers do today.
Did you know teachers don't grade individual homework? They stand in front of the class, tell the correct answers and its up to your child to grade their own work.

We don't grade homework in ES because we don't know WHO did the homework. I wouldn't give homework to my students other than to study basic facts and read if I had my choice. I do give a lot of feedback on assignments done in class. Those help me better understand my students' individual needs.

I get a lot of homework that's done in perfect cursive. My students don't know cursive-I self contained teach special education and many struggle to write letters even in isolation. But sure! The child did it. I give everyone who attempts the homework a 100 for completion because I'm not going to give one child a B or a C for working hard, independently, and one child an A because their mother has mastered double digit addition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Have you heard of Kahn Academy? It's really great.

It's Khan Academy, actually. Also, if you think that Khan Academy is functionally equivalent to school, then I really don't know what to say.

Actually, it's better. If the student misses a question it asks them to keep trying and points them to extra help.
Far more than public school teachers do today.
Did you know teachers don't grade individual homework? They stand in front of the class, tell the correct answers and its up to your child to grade their own work.

We don't grade homework in ES because we don't know WHO did the homework. I wouldn't give homework to my students other than to study basic facts and read if I had my choice. I do give a lot of feedback on assignments done in class. Those help me better understand my students' individual needs.

Soooo because a fraction of parents are doing the homework and denying the children the opportunity to learn, you kick that up a notch and deny ALL the students the opportunity to learn?

If i pulled that sort of nonsense at my job I would be let go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Have you heard of Kahn Academy? It's really great.

It's Khan Academy, actually. Also, if you think that Khan Academy is functionally equivalent to school, then I really don't know what to say.

Actually, it's better. If the student misses a question it asks them to keep trying and points them to extra help.
Far more than public school teachers do today.
Did you know teachers don't grade individual homework? They stand in front of the class, tell the correct answers and its up to your child to grade their own work.

We don't grade homework in ES because we don't know WHO did the homework. I wouldn't give homework to my students other than to study basic facts and read if I had my choice. I do give a lot of feedback on assignments done in class. Those help me better understand my students' individual needs.

Soooo because a fraction of parents are doing the homework and denying the children the opportunity to learn, you kick that up a notch and deny ALL the students the opportunity to learn?

If i pulled that sort of nonsense at my job I would be let go.

DP. How is the teacher denying all students the opportunity to learn?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Have you heard of Kahn Academy? It's really great.

It's Khan Academy, actually. Also, if you think that Khan Academy is functionally equivalent to school, then I really don't know what to say.

Actually, it's better. If the student misses a question it asks them to keep trying and points them to extra help.
Far more than public school teachers do today.
Did you know teachers don't grade individual homework? They stand in front of the class, tell the correct answers and its up to your child to grade their own work.

We don't grade homework in ES because we don't know WHO did the homework. I wouldn't give homework to my students other than to study basic facts and read if I had my choice. I do give a lot of feedback on assignments done in class. Those help me better understand my students' individual needs.

Soooo because a fraction of parents are doing the homework and denying the children the opportunity to learn, you kick that up a notch and deny ALL the students the opportunity to learn?

If i pulled that sort of nonsense at my job I would be let go.

DP. How is the teacher denying all students the opportunity to learn?

PP here. We are not allowed to grade homework in MCPS elementary schools. I'm not a fan of giving kids work that doesn't receive feedback but our school community demands homework. Please check your facts before coming for someone as you come off like a real....treat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When did people start hating teachers? They do one of our most important jobs and take responsibility for the care and attention to the most valuable people in our lives. Are they all great? No but Jesus, they aren't the antichrist. I'd love to see most of you manage. Most teachers I talk to do it because they want to give and shape young lives. What on earth is wrong with you people? How the hell are YOU contributing to the betterment of society? Your stupid G8 job at the Department of Agriculture sure isn't meaningful.

I've had my children in public school. I've seen first hand the lack of work ethic. That doesn't mean the trump administration doesn't suck.
First I watched as public school teachers allow students to squeak by without mastering or even learning at all. Then I come here to see them moaning about their 5 hour a day, vacation laden jobs during normal times. Now I've witnessed them putting in 45 minutes of work for my children. Some even less.
If anyone with an actual job put in such abysmally weak performance we would be fired.

Teacher here— just want to make sure that you know that it is pressure FROM ADMIN AND CENTRAL OFFICE that make us pass kids who barely do anything. We HATE it. The “You just have to get a 58.5 2nd Q” to pass is absolutely ridiculous. I have kids who don’t show up for an entire quarter, show up for maybe 4 days the next quarter, and admin is all over me to pass them. We. Absolutely. Hate. It. I had a kid who was literally on a kindergarten reading level at the end of 8th grade and the principals passed him into HS. I’d had meetings w/ parents, worked my ass off to get him INto a reading Support class (that admin said he didn’t need). He failed English all four quarters and his uncle even begged the school not to promote him bc his uncle knew he was illiterate. Didn’t matter. The school sent him to HS, and it breaks my heart because this happens ALL THE TIME. They want their promotion and graduation numbers up so they keep lowering the bar, pressuring teachers, and promoting kids who have literally failed every single class.

Parents and teachers should work together to speak out against this, but again, teachers HATE IT.

[Anonymous]

Teacher: we hate how low the bar has become and how much our principal bully us into passing kids. I refuse to pass a child who can’t read and is in 9th grade, but the principals make clear that it is MY job on the line if I have another course failure. I work my butt off with my kids, but when the system and admin keeps shoving them along to the next grade level, it is impossible for me to get a kid on a 1st grade reading level to pass 10th grade English!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: DL in Maryland is a joke. Let’s face it and save our money for a real education when public health permits it. The school can keep posting the random worksheets it doesn’t grade and the YouTube videos of other teachers. One teacher can do that for each grade in that state while we furlough the others. Then those teachers won’t need to whine about how hard it is to teach with their child care responsibilities.

We can treat these teachers equally to school nurses, bus drivers, custodians and paraeducators who have been struggling. And we can balance our budget this year and save the $ for real improvement in the future. I would much rather return to regular school but until that can be done let’s treat all our education professionals equally. Or if teachers want to actually teach live and grade like they really want to educate I am all for paying them. But paying them to sit at home and whine about how online is hard while they each post the same videos as the other 200 teachers in the district without follow up is not ok.

Flame away but we don’t have the extra money for fluff anymore. There are lots of virtual teaching jobs out there for those who actually teach that could be had by teachers who , as they say, actually want to teach.

Who are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: DL in Maryland is a joke. Let’s face it and save our money for a real education when public health permits it. The school can keep posting the random worksheets it doesn’t grade and the YouTube videos of other teachers. One teacher can do that for each grade in that state while we furlough the others. Then those teachers won’t need to whine about how hard it is to teach with their child care responsibilities.

We can treat these teachers equally to school nurses, bus drivers, custodians and paraeducators who have been struggling. And we can balance our budget this year and save the $ for real improvement in the future. I would much rather return to regular school but until that can be done let’s treat all our education professionals equally. Or if teachers want to actually teach live and grade like they really want to educate I am all for paying them. But paying them to sit at home and whine about how online is hard while they each post the same videos as the other 200 teachers in the district without follow up is not ok.

Flame away but we don’t have the extra money for fluff anymore. There are lots of virtual teaching jobs out there for those who actually teach that could be had by teachers who , as they say, actually want to teach.

I'm 1000% with you, OP. I have been shocked to find out how little teaching teachers actually do. Growing up in remember teachers working on lesson plans, etc. Come to find out now that the schools buy a curriculum with handouts etx and the teachers just spit out the canned lessons that were paid for.
I have yet to hear of a teacher helping a student who had a particular struggle like we had when I was growing up. Now, with DL, I'm convinced the teachers are a total joke.

Teaching should be done with AI that meets kids where they are, automatically customizes to their learning style and prods for their weaknesses and reinforces them.

Teachers are a joke, but when you see what they cost tax payers, its not so funny.

It's funny how folks on dcum can simultaneously argue that teaching us this easy job that can be done by a robot but also you need schools reopen full time because you're too stressed out/overwhelmed by distance learning to do it yourself. Which one is it DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When did people start hating teachers? They do one of our most important jobs and take responsibility for the care and attention to the most valuable people in our lives. Are they all great? No but Jesus, they aren't the antichrist. I'd love to see most of you manage. Most teachers I talk to do it because they want to give and shape young lives. What on earth is wrong with you people? How the hell are YOU contributing to the betterment of society? Your stupid G8 job at the Department of Agriculture sure isn't meaningful.

I've had my children in public school. I've seen first hand the lack of work ethic. That doesn't mean the trump administration doesn't suck.
First I watched as public school teachers allow students to squeak by without mastering or even learning at all. Then I come here to see them moaning about their 5 hour a day, vacation laden jobs during normal times. Now I've witnessed them putting in 45 minutes of work for my children. Some even less.
If anyone with an actual job put in such abysmally weak performance we would be fired.

Teacher here— just want to make sure that you know that it is pressure FROM ADMIN AND CENTRAL OFFICE that make us pass kids who barely do anything. We HATE it. The “You just have to get a 58.5 2nd Q” to pass is absolutely ridiculous. I have kids who don’t show up for an entire quarter, show up for maybe 4 days the next quarter, and admin is all over me to pass them. We. Absolutely. Hate. It. I had a kid who was literally on a kindergarten reading level at the end of 8th grade and the principals passed him into HS. I’d had meetings w/ parents, worked my ass off to get him INto a reading Support class (that admin said he didn’t need). He failed English all four quarters and his uncle even begged the school not to promote him bc his uncle knew he was illiterate. Didn’t matter. The school sent him to HS, and it breaks my heart because this happens ALL THE TIME. They want their promotion and graduation numbers up so they keep lowering the bar, pressuring teachers, and promoting kids who have literally failed every single class.

Parents and teachers should work together to speak out against this, but again, teachers HATE IT.

This is a feature of MCPS not a bug. Passing and graduation rates down? Lower the bar. Achievement gap? Focus on the lack of diversity in the magnet programs that are meant for the top 3% of students. Terrible Algebra results? Add points to tests to increase the pass rate. Achievement gap? Everyone passes! Look no more achievement gap. The SAT scores are harder for them to manipulate.

[Anonymous]

When I was in MD public schools, we used to take nationally norms tests like the CAT and the ITBS. It was clear where we tested against the rest of the US. Why are the SATs/ACTs the first national tests our students take? They are a year away from graduation. It’s too late by then to see how far behind they are than the rest of the country. I guess states don’t want anyone to see data that shows their shortcomings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was in MD public schools, we used to take nationally norms tests like the CAT and the ITBS. It was clear where we tested against the rest of the US. Why are the SATs/ACTs the first national tests our students take? They are a year away from graduation. It’s too late by then to see how far behind they are than the rest of the country. I guess states don’t want anyone to see data that shows their shortcomings.

NCLB put it on states to improve schools and develop their own standardized tests. I took the CAT but also the MSPAP, and that was 30 years ago, so it didn't even start there. It's really more of an issue with the federal government than states wanting to hide their poor performing results.

[Anonymous]

The other is that NCLB set impossibly high standards like 100% passing eventually. Schools systems became desperate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: DL in Maryland is a joke. Let’s face it and save our money for a real education when public health permits it. The school can keep posting the random worksheets it doesn’t grade and the YouTube videos of other teachers. One teacher can do that for each grade in that state while we furlough the others. Then those teachers won’t need to whine about how hard it is to teach with their child care responsibilities.

We can treat these teachers equally to school nurses, bus drivers, custodians and paraeducators who have been struggling. And we can balance our budget this year and save the $ for real improvement in the future. I would much rather return to regular school but until that can be done let’s treat all our education professionals equally. Or if teachers want to actually teach live and grade like they really want to educate I am all for paying them. But paying them to sit at home and whine about how online is hard while they each post the same videos as the other 200 teachers in the district without follow up is not ok.

Flame away but we don’t have the extra money for fluff anymore. There are lots of virtual teaching jobs out there for those who actually teach that could be had by teachers who , as they say, actually want to teach.

Me, too.

I'm 1000% with you, OP. I have been shocked to find out how little teaching teachers actually do. Growing up in remember teachers working on lesson plans, etc. Come to find out now that the schools buy a curriculum with handouts etx and the teachers just spit out the canned lessons that were paid for.
I have yet to hear of a teacher helping a student who had a particular struggle like we had when I was growing up. Now, with DL, I'm convinced the teachers are a total joke.

Teaching should be done with AI that meets kids where they are, automatically customizes to their learning style and prods for their weaknesses and reinforces them.

Teachers are a joke, but when you see what they cost tax payers, its not so funny.

This post definitely makes me think that the quality of teachers will decline significantly in the future. More capable graduates will not be likely to choose teaching as a profession.

You're absolutely correct.

Yeah, probably not many well qualified people who want a job where people call you a "joke" and say that you just "spit out canned lessons that were paid for"-you need to get a life, honestly. Teaching should be done with AI? Okay, then why do you dislike distance learning? I would think that anything that brings teaching closer to automation would please you. Who will watch your children all day, since that seems to be the only function of teachers that you care for? Our robot replacements?

I have less and less concern for working parents as I see these threads ranting and raving about how teachers are lazy, dumb, whiners who you would like to lay off en masse. Okay, good luck with your children in the fall! Clearly, you don't need us. You're so angry that there is no school due to a global crisis that is completely out of our hands. You have zero respect for the people who run the schools and who raise YOUR children so you can work without feeling guilty about it. How about thanking the teachers who have made it possible for you and your partner to work for all these years? All these parents who say that schools are the economic engine of our country, yet who refuse to acknowledge that schools don't run themselves. You know what? Pay me for putting myself in harm's way and I'll consider it. Otherwise, I'm going to keep advocating to keep myself and MY family safe-you can do the same for yours.

Ugh! I can't believe someone wifh your iq is being paid to teach my children. You are replying to me. I am not a working parent. Assumptions are the antithesis of mental rigor.

The passive aggression is not something I want to see from someone in contact with my children.

And I dislike DL because its nothing at all like AI. You honestly are more clueless than I imagined a teached could be in 2020.

Really? I agree with the teacher.