Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

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Unless it is in China...do we know for sure it stayed west?

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Where are they? Debris from the Air France plane was found two days later. It's been a week! I want to believe the passengers and crew are alive.

They knew where the plane went down in the case of air France. For the Malaysia flight they have a search area of 19.6 million square miles.

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This was interesting

The cabin air system in today's jetliners is designed to provide a safe, comfortable cabin environment at cruising altitudes that can reach upwards of 40,000 feet.
At those altitudes, the cabin must be pressurized to enable passengers and crew to breathe normally. By government regulation, the cabin pressure cannot be less than the equivalent of outside air pressure at 8,000 feet.
Here's briefly how the system works:
Pressurized air for the cabin in today's jetliners comes from the compressor stages in the aircraft's jet engines. Moving through the compressor, the outside air gets very hot as it becomes pressurized. The portion drawn off for the passenger cabin is first cooled by heat exchangers in the engine struts and then, after flowing through ducting in the wing, is further cooled by the main air conditioning units.
The cooled air then flows to a chamber where it is mixed with an approximately equal amount of highly filtered air from the passenger cabin. The combined outside and filtered air is ducted to the cabin and distributed through overhead outlets.
Inside the cabin, the air flows in a generally circular patterns and exits through floor grilles on either side of the cabin and on airplanes with overhead recirculation, the air may exit through the overhead. The exiting air goes below the cabin floor into the lower lobe of the fuselage.
The airflow is continuous and is used for maintaining a comfortable cabin temperature, pressurization and overall air quality. About half of the air exiting the cabin is exhausted from the airplane through one or more outflow valves in the lower lobe, which also controls the cabin pressure. The other half is drawn by fans through High Efficiency Particulate Air (HEPA) filters under the cabin floor, and then is mixed with the outside air coming in from the engine compressors. (Some airplanes are equipped with an overhead recirculation system in combination with the under floor system).
The HEPA filters are very effective at trapping microscopic particles such as bacteria and viruses and can provide essentially particle free air in the recirculation system.

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/cabinair/index.page

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Anonymous wrote:Are there still idiots on DCUM that can't believe that the plane is hijacked? Even the Malaysian Prime Minister admitted to it.

"deliberate" isn't the same as hijacking. Someone really skilled needed to fly the plane, given all the maneuverings. All things considered, I think it was one of the pilots.

Pilots can hijack planes too no?

The NYT article pretty much said that one of the pilots was very likely involved, although whether willingly or through coercion who knows. Something about when they switch off the communications - between Malaysia and Vietnam. Malaysia would think they switched to Vietnamese air traffic control and Vietnam wouldn't know to be expecting them yet. Allowed them to go longer before arousing suspicion. Only someone very familiar with the route would know exactly when to do this.

Could you post a link? I couldn't find this.

Wouldn't Vietnam be expecting the plane, and when it didn't communicate with Vietnamese air traffic control, wouldn't this rouse suspicion immediately? How long after Malaysia signed off did someone (who?) notice the plane was missing?

These are regular flights -- someone must have noticed right away! But I agree that the timing is suspicious -- or perhaps a coincidence?

This grows curiouser and curiouser....

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. I was just checking on the depth of the Indian Ocean and some parts are deeper than 20,000 feet which is the deepest the FDR and CVRs are able to keep pinging. I wonder if this jackass was trying to go down in the deepest part of the Indian Ocean so the boxes wouldn't be located and how possible it would be to plan that.

What's the motive? Why would someone try to blow up a jet and then hide the work that they died for?

Maybe it was pilot suicide whereby the pilot just flew the plane until he was ready to enter deep water.

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OK PEOPLE. WAIT A MINUTE. THIS DOESNT FREAKING MAKE SENSE. Whether hijackers,terrorists, whatever, if someone just wants to hijack a plane, why on earth are they flying it for 7 hours??? why? why? why not just crash it? why shout down the transponder?? you can just crash, even if people know where u are, everybody will still die, You crashed the plane. Why on earth would someone just fly for 7 hours? why? why?? I just can't wrap my head around this part!!!!!! WHAT MOTIVATION does anyone have to fly for 7 hours with a transponder off if they are just going to crash the plane???

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Anonymous wrote:OK PEOPLE. WAIT A MINUTE. THIS DOESNT FREAKING MAKE SENSE. Whether hijackers,terrorists, whatever, if someone just wants to hijack a plane, why on earth are they flying it for 7 hours??? why? why? why not just crash it? why shout down the transponder?? you can just crash, even if people know where u are, everybody will still die, You crashed the plane. Why on earth would someone just fly for 7 hours? why? why?? I just can't wrap my head around this part!!!!!! WHAT MOTIVATION does anyone have to fly for 7 hours with a transponder off if they are just going to crash the plane???

Because the purpose was not to crash the plane, but to get it somewhere undetected, where it could then be used for a different (bad) purpose. (Just an explanation for you to consider).

You are right, if they wanted to crash the plane, they would've done it.

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Anonymous wrote:OK PEOPLE. WAIT A MINUTE. THIS DOESNT FREAKING MAKE SENSE. Whether hijackers,terrorists, whatever, if someone just wants to hijack a plane, why on earth are they flying it for 7 hours??? why? why? why not just crash it? why shout down the transponder?? you can just crash, even if people know where u are, everybody will still die, You crashed the plane. Why on earth would someone just fly for 7 hours? why? why?? I just can't wrap my head around this part!!!!!! WHAT MOTIVATION does anyone have to fly for 7 hours with a transponder off if they are just going to crash the plane???

BEACAUSE THEY WANTED EITHER THE PLANE OR THE CARGO ON BOARD. THEY HAD NO INTENT TO CRASH THE PLANE.

[Anonymous]

Maybe it's a diamond heist.

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Anonymous wrote:OK PEOPLE. WAIT A MINUTE. THIS DOESNT FREAKING MAKE SENSE. Whether hijackers,terrorists, whatever, if someone just wants to hijack a plane, why on earth are they flying it for 7 hours??? why? why? why not just crash it? why shout down the transponder?? you can just crash, even if people know where u are, everybody will still die, You crashed the plane. Why on earth would someone just fly for 7 hours? why? why?? I just can't wrap my head around this part!!!!!! WHAT MOTIVATION does anyone have to fly for 7 hours with a transponder off if they are just going to crash the plane???

BEACAUSE THEY WANTED EITHER THE PLANE OR THE CARGO ON BOARD. THEY HAD NO INTENT TO CRASH THE PLANE.

What are they going to do with the cargo??? You have over 200 people on a plane, how can u take control of 200 people??? if u want the plane, where on earth are you going to land it??? This is not a movie, you can't just land a 777 in some forrest and go on with your life

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Unfortunately the black box only records the last 2 hours of a flight so we'll most likely never find out what happened even if the black box is found.

Is this true? This is the most depressing point made today. Partly because if they were all unconcious/dead and it was on autopilot for over 2 hours, we'll never know if the pilot was in on it or trying to protect everyone.

Yes, it's a 2 hour loop. We'll never know.

WhY do you people lie so much? WTF is wrong with you???


A flight data recorder is required to store a minimum of 25 hours of flight information. A cockpit voice recorder is required to record a minimum of 2 hours of audio information

You are wrong. This just came up on CNN last night. The expert they interviewed specifically stated that only the last 2 hours of cockpit conversations would be recorded. I have no idea how much info is contained in the flight data recorder but the voice recorder is only 2 hours.

No, the poster is correct. 2 hours CVR, 25 hours FDR. The FDR will have a lot of useful information.

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Um, that's exactly what I've said (twice now). Two hours of cockpit voice recordings. As a result, it's unlikely that we'll ever know what transpired in the cockpit at the time the plane went off-course.

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What's in the cargo that is so valuable that someone would risk hijacking a plane?

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Anonymous wrote:What's in the cargo that is so valuable that someone would risk hijacking a plane?

That's the big secret. Waiting on them to publish the cargo manifest (if they ever do) so we can see what the plane was transporting.

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Anonymous wrote:What's in the cargo that is so valuable that someone would risk hijacking a plane?

That's the big secret. Waiting on them to publish the cargo manifest (if they ever do) so we can see what the plane was transporting.

It was a commercial flight. I doubt it would be authorized to transport anything of real value/threat to the security of a country/threat to human life like a nuclear or dangerous biological item. And if it were drugs, it would have to be tons of it to make it worth the risk. And diamonds would be easier to steal from a courier or safe on the ground.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are they? Debris from the Air France plane was found two days later. It's been a week! I want to believe the passengers and crew are alive.

It's possible the passengers are being held somewhere alive, but very very very unlikely. The passengers probably died when the plane went up to 45,000 feet, as pps pointed out. If not, then when the plane eventually ran out of fuel and went down. It's a big planet, and God knows where the plane is now. I hope we find it, and find out what happened.

But only if the cabin was depressurized.