Woodward HS boundary study - BCC, Blair, Einstein, WJ, Kennedy, Northwood, Wheaton, Whitman impacts

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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is a summary. People in bad school districts want to try and get their foot in the door at WJ Whitman and BCC. People in those districts have very valuable homes because of the school district. They paid a lot of $ to not send their kid to Blair Northwood Wheaton Kennedy Einstein. People at the bad schools would benefit academically and financially from being slotted into a Bethesda school district. This is the battle at hand. I would suggest mcps investing money in making the DCC better and not diluting the W schools. Don’t fix what isn’t broken


That is not the summary. The summary is that a new school is being built and we need to figure out which kids will go there. There is no battle for your rich neighborhood, lol.


Then it’s simple.
The kids that would have gone there when this school closed should now go there again. Tilden MS to Woodward, north bethesda ms to WJ. It’s worth noting north bethesda is a middle school and not a place.


If you think it's simple, you may be in for a shock once the boundary study process properly starts.

Also, North Bethesda is a place as well as a middle school: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/northbethesdacdpmaryland
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.

Considering the geography of the DCC, I am 100% confident that Woodard is more convenient to “most DCC schools” over BCC.


The issue is the DCC schools Woodward is closest to also happen to be within walking distance of their current HS: Viers Mill (Wheaton) and Rock View (Einstein). That leads to other options, such as sending some or all of Woodlin, for example, to BCC. And no, I am not zoned for Woodlin.

The walk zone for Westland MS go to Pyle. This doesn’t seem like an important issue.


But the Westland example is the opposite situation: kids who are currently bus riders who could become walkers to a closer school. In the Viers Mill and Rock View examples, there are kids who are currently walkers to their current HS who would become bus riders if reassigned to Woodward. And MCPS has said they are trying to maximize walkers.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.

But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.

Given that Woodward is being used as a holding school for Northwood, which is actually further from Woodward than Einstein and Wheaton, the DCC schools most likely to have feeders re-assigned to Woodward, the inconvenience argument doesn’t hold much water.


One has nothing to do with the other.

I mean, it makes it so you can’t credibly say it’s too inconvenient to zone some DCC feeders there.

Holding schools are always inconvenient because there are only a few of them. Potomac ES was/is? being bussed to Radnor which is in close-in Bethesda. Using something as a holding school has no bearing on whether the neighborhood that’s using it is convenient to it or not.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.

But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.



In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.

But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.



In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.

You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.

But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.



In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.

You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.


Not at all. Some Einstein walkers could certainly become Wheaton walkers. But no walker to any school should become a bus rider to another school.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.


Sure it will. I'm sure they're plenty close to Woodward too and that will free up room for other crowded schools.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.

But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.



In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.

You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.


Not at all. Some Einstein walkers could certainly become Wheaton walkers. But no walker to any school should become a bus rider to another school.

I think split articulation ESs is the way this is going to be handled. Not all of Highland and not all of OTES walks to Einstein (all of Rock View does and I do not see any way in which the feeder actually in Einstein’s neighborhood gets re-zoned). Highland is the only Einstein feeder that could also have walkers to Wheaton, no part of the OTES catchment is walkable to Wheaton. The other option is to take Woodlin or Singer and take their already existing bus ride and just make it a little longer to Woodward or maybe BCC.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


It made no sense they didn't make Wheaton bigger with all that land. They need to tear down Einstein and make it bigger. They should use Woodward as a holding facility after they are done with Northwood.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.

But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.



In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.

You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.


Not at all. Some Einstein walkers could certainly become Wheaton walkers. But no walker to any school should become a bus rider to another school.

I think split articulation ESs is the way this is going to be handled. Not all of Highland and not all of OTES walks to Einstein (all of Rock View does and I do not see any way in which the feeder actually in Einstein’s neighborhood gets re-zoned). Highland is the only Einstein feeder that could also have walkers to Wheaton, no part of the OTES catchment is walkable to Wheaton. The other option is to take Woodlin or Singer and take their already existing bus ride and just make it a little longer to Woodward or maybe BCC.


Wheaton is overcrowded.
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Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf

But until then, by all means, carry on

By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.

Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.


Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.


Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.


"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.

No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.


Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.

So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.

+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.


Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.


The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so


By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.


Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.

By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.


The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.

But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.



In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.

You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.


Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
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