How likely for save act to pass senate?

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Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
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If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”
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The GOP uses the filibuster to shield themselves from Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
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If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Some work is necessary to protect our nation. (NP here and woman)
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
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If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Some work is necessary to protect our nation. (NP here and woman)


Agreed. That works starts in 2026 when the destructive Republicans lose control of Congress and in 2028 the Presidency. But it’s not “some”…it’s an extraordinary amount of work that’ll need to be done to clean up the extensive messes across virtually every domain.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end


If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Some work is necessary to protect our nation. (NP here and woman)

Protect it from what? There is no evidence of any election where the outcome was changed because of people voting when they weren’t supposed to. None.
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Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end


If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Some work is necessary to protect our nation. (NP here and woman)


Agreed. That works starts in 2026 when the destructive Republicans lose control of Congress and in 2028 the Presidency. But it’s not “some”…it’s an extraordinary amount of work that’ll need to be done to clean up the extensive messes across virtually every domain.


This. My thoughts exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
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If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Yes, what extra hoops can we add for men to have jump through to get to vote?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end


If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Some work is necessary to protect our nation. (NP here and woman)


From what? Married women?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end


If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Yes, what extra hoops can we add for men to have jump through to get to vote?


I just got one. Not that hard. And, yes, I go by my married name. I guess I proved that when I got my drivers' license and Social Security card change many years ago.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end


If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Some work is necessary to protect our nation. (NP here and woman)


Agreed. That works starts in 2026 when the destructive Republicans lose control of Congress and in 2028 the Presidency. But it’s not “some”…it’s an extraordinary amount of work that’ll need to be done to clean up the extensive messes across virtually every domain.


It will take 8-12 years to clean up the domestic mess and another 20-50 for the international.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end


If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Some work is necessary to protect our nation. (NP here and woman)


Agreed. That works starts in 2026 when the destructive Republicans lose control of Congress and in 2028 the Presidency. But it’s not “some”…it’s an extraordinary amount of work that’ll need to be done to clean up the extensive messes across virtually every domain.


This. My thoughts exactly.


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end


If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.


Are you a man? It IS an issue. I just f’ing did this nonsense when I got a REAL ID. I had to find all my documents (because I didn’t have a current passport), even though my then current drivers license had my married name on it. I made an appointment at DMV, took off from work, waited for a long time, paid for it, and finally got it. And it adds salt to the wound that Real ID isn’t going “to count.”


Some work is necessary to protect our nation. (NP here and woman)

Protect it from what? There is no evidence of any election where the outcome was changed because of people voting when they weren’t supposed to. None.


Doesn’t matter if it was changed in the past. Keeping those doors open is just stupid
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Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.


Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected
the outcome, please share it.


Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, be
lieve it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.


Basically this. PP is running the same playbook at Trump. A prosecutor with tears in his eyes came up to PP and said "Sir, I successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but there's just so many more. Nobody's ever seen anything like it."


No. You can deny if you wish, but you are wrong. And, the two I mentioned by the prosecutor I know are included here.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Which of those two cases led to a change in the outcome of an election?


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