How likely for save act to pass senate?

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Anonymous wrote:It happened again.

Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.

Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.

Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, believe it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Virginia and had to produce my birth certificate when I renewed my driver's licence to get the Real ID Compliant for TSA And what n I voted had to show my driver's license.

Don't we already have what the moron in the White House wants?

Not every state requires this. Also, not everyone has a Real ID. That is what would be required.

Currently, in Virginia, a regular drivers license does not indicate citizenship proof. You self-certify--it is a tiny box at the top of your application. You likely need some proof of age, etc, but no one checks citizenship except you.

And what's more, you don't have to be a citizen to get a Real ID - you can be a permanent resident. So plenty of people have Real ID but still can't vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It happened again.

Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.

Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.

Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, be
lieve it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.

Basically this. PP is running the same playbook at Trump. A prosecutor with tears in his eyes came up to PP and said "Sir, I successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but there's just so many more. Nobody's ever seen anything like it."

No. You can deny if you wish, but you are wrong. And, the two I mentioned by the prosecutor I know are included here.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It happened again.

Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.

Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.

Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, be
lieve it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.

Basically this. PP is running the same playbook at Trump. A prosecutor with tears in his eyes came up to PP and said "Sir, I successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but there's just so many more. Nobody's ever seen anything like it."

No. You can deny if you wish, but you are wrong. And, the two I mentioned by the prosecutor I know are included here.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Ahhh, a Heritage Foundation PDF posted by the Trump White House. I imagine the PDF had tears in its eyes and you read through it...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It happened again.

Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.

Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.

Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, be
lieve it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.

Basically this. PP is running the same playbook at Trump. A prosecutor with tears in his eyes came up to PP and said "Sir, I successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but there's just so many more. Nobody's ever seen anything like it."

No. You can deny if you wish, but you are wrong. And, the two I mentioned by the prosecutor I know are included here.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Which of those two cases led to a change in the outcome of an election?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It happened again.

Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.

Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.

Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, be
lieve it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.

Basically this. PP is running the same playbook at Trump. A prosecutor with tears in his eyes came up to PP and said "Sir, I successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but there's just so many more. Nobody's ever seen anything like it."

No. You can deny if you wish, but you are wrong. And, the two I mentioned by the prosecutor I know are included here.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Ahhh, a Heritage Foundation PDF posted by the Trump White House. I imagine the PDF had tears in its eyes and you read through it...

Actually, I skimmed this Heritage Foundation document and it seems legit. The thing is, it covers the entire country and goes all the way back to 1983. In all the elections in all the states since then there have only been 1071 proven instances of voter fraud. Yes, it happens, but it's exceedingly rare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It happened again.

Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.

Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.

Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, be
lieve it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.

Basically this. PP is running the same playbook at Trump. A prosecutor with tears in his eyes came up to PP and said "Sir, I successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but there's just so many more. Nobody's ever seen anything like it."

No. You can deny if you wish, but you are wrong. And, the two I mentioned by the prosecutor I know are included here.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Ahhh, a Heritage Foundation PDF posted by the Trump White House. I imagine the PDF had tears in its eyes and you read through it...

Actually, I skimmed this Heritage Foundation document and it seems legit. The thing is, it covers the entire country and goes all the way back to 1983. In all the elections in all the states since then there have only been 1071 proven instances of voter fraud. Yes, it happens, but it's exceedingly rare.

According to chatGPT, 1.5 billion ballots have been cast in federal elections since the year 2000.

1,071 / 1,500,000,000 = 0.0000714% ballots cast were fraudulent

To disenfranchise tens of millions of Americans to stop 0.0000714% of fraudulent ballots should be considered a crime against the Constitution and the States.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It happened again.

Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.

Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.

Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, be
lieve it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.

Basically this. PP is running the same playbook at Trump. A prosecutor with tears in his eyes came up to PP and said "Sir, I successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but there's just so many more. Nobody's ever seen anything like it."

No. You can deny if you wish, but you are wrong. And, the two I mentioned by the prosecutor I know are included here.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Ahhh, a Heritage Foundation PDF posted by the Trump White House. I imagine the PDF had tears in its eyes and you read through it...

Actually, I skimmed this Heritage Foundation document and it seems legit. The thing is, it covers the entire country and goes all the way back to 1983. In all the elections in all the states since then there have only been 1071 proven instances of voter fraud. Yes, it happens, but it's exceedingly rare.

This is the summary of the information I have seen (Heritage Foundation Database analysis, 1999-2023)

77 cases of Non-citizens who successfully cast a ballot
10 cases of Undocumented immigrants who voted
1 Billion + ballots cast
0.00000764% of all votes cast fraudulently

[Anonymous]

Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end

If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end

If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.

You must be young. Before 9/11 we didn’t have the surveillance state that we have today. You could do lots of things without id. And married women just used their husbands’ names with no formal documentation for all kinds of transactions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end

If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.

You must be young. Before 9/11 we didn’t have the surveillance state that we have today. You could do lots of things without id. And married women just used their husbands’ names with no formal documentation for all kinds of transactions.

And not to single out the elderly, but how many elderly still have tabs on their birth certificates. And what condition would those documents even be in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end

If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.

Ok, so you should offer to do it for her. Becuase yes it IS an issue. You have to find all the documents, take time off, go to wherever they will send you, wait for a million years and then finally be approved.

It IS an issue. But it is one you don’t have to deal with. I think I will change my name back to my maiden name AND make my boys change from their dad’s last name to mine. Just so they have to deal with the same no issue and they don’t develop a crappy attitude like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It happened again.

Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.

Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.

Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.

And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.

Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, believe it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.

Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.

So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.

Sure! "Feelings" have gone from being outcast by MAGA to being embraced! The Master Feeler (The Great Orange Pedo Feeler) attacked Iran based on his "feelings".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women should not have to clear a single obstacle more than a man at the ballot box.
The end

If she changed her name, she has documents to prove it. It's not an issue.

Ok, so you should offer to do it for her. Becuase yes it IS an issue. You have to find all the documents, take time off, go to wherever they will send you, wait for a million years and then finally be approved.

It IS an issue. But it is one you don’t have to deal with. I think I will change my name back to my maiden name AND make my boys change from their dad’s last name to mine. Just so they have to deal with the same no issue and they don’t develop a crappy attitude like you.

Actually, yes, I have changed my name.

BS. Did you change you SS name? Then you have documentation. You don't just tell the DMV you want to change your name without documents.
Do you expect to collect Social Security? better have documents.

Quit making up stories.

I changed my name when I got married. You need birth certificate to get Social Security. You need a marriage certificate or other legal documentation to change your name there.