Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

His family clearly said he had moved left. Not sure which of his friends said he was apolitical.

Do not know any right win conservatives who would kill a guy who praises the Bible and Jesus. Also, I do not know any trans MAGA supporters--except Caitlyn Jenner.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

Him murdering a conservative out of hatred is pretty damning evidence he wasn’t a conservative. There is zero evidence linking him to alt right organizations or Nick Fuentes.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

His family clearly said he had moved left. Not sure which of his friends said he was apolitical.

They equated supporting gay people with “being left”. Tells you more about their own personal rot than any political position.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

Him murdering a conservative out of hatred is pretty damning evidence he wasn’t a conservative. There is zero evidence linking him to alt right organizations or Nick Fuentes.

Except Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk and it is well accepted that he is extreme right.

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“I'm a lifelong Democrat and I have spent hours out of my life the past few days watching Charlie Kirk debates”

She’s having an awakening after seeing that all the clips the media used to villainize Charlie Kirk were ALL LIES, they were all clipped and out of context

“The example I want to use is that clip that was everywhere that went viral, everybody was quoting it where Charlie said, I don't like the word empathy. We've probably all seen the short and the long version at this point where he goes on to clarify that he prefers the word sympathy.

Agree with them or disagree with them, doesn't matter to me. The point is the real conversation never happened because the clip was cut in half. Why? To reinforce the idea that the right is full of these monsters who reject human feelings.

That that wasn't an accident. That omission was deliberate and strategic”

She talks about how her own Party has become a “mob mentality”

“It's not about Charlie Kirk. It's about us taking the time to reflect. Are we living up to our own standards and our own ideals? Are we leading with Integrity? Are we just falling into a different version of the same trap? Because from my viewpoint, I don't know, it feels like we're becoming a lot like the things we claim to stand against”

Sympathy is pity. It is a passive emotion. It is also usually for people or situations that you can see yourself experiencing or with people who look like you and it is only the acknowledgement of distressan in. Empathy is an internal process of acknowledging someones situation or experiences that requires the ability to relate to someone and/or "step into another persons shoes". Theres cognitive empathy, emotional empathy and action based on empathy.

Here is a great example:
Sympathy is saying children are being bombed in Gaza and killed. Thats really awful. I feel bad for them and their families. Skip da de doo time for Starbucks.
Empathy is saying I cannot imagine raising children in that type of environment and how would I feel if my children had to be raised there and were risking their lives and what I wouldnt do to protect my kids and get them food. Their parents must be dealing with so much anxiety and fear and loss, I would feel the same way. I dont want children to suffer like that....I should do something: donate, write someone, etc.

Kirk was great at doing that. He made it seem like any rebuttal was being cruel or misunderstanding or taking it out of context. In this case, he meant what he said. Empathy is bad because its for others who dont look like you or act like you and requires you to be compassionate. Sympathy requires acknowledging someone elses feeling or circumstances with pity or sadness and thats it. What a good Christian.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

Him murdering a conservative out of hatred is pretty damning evidence he wasn’t a conservative. There is zero evidence linking him to alt right organizations or Nick Fuentes.

Except Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk and it is well accepted that he is extreme right.

Nick Fuentes didn’t murder anyone. There is no confirmed linking the two together anyhow. Nick Fuentes denies the memes having anything to do with him or his organization. Bunch of conspiracy theories
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/15/groyper-charlie-kirk-nick-fuentes-tyler-robinson

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

Him murdering a conservative out of hatred is pretty damning evidence he wasn’t a conservative. There is zero evidence linking him to alt right organizations or Nick Fuentes.

Except Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk and it is well accepted that he is extreme right.

Nick Fuentes didn’t murder anyone. There is no confirmed linking the two together anyhow. Nick Fuentes denies the memes having anything to do with him or his organization. Bunch of conspiracy theories
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/15/groyper-charlie-kirk-nick-fuentes-tyler-robinson

DP. Isn't his denial what he would have to do if he was behind it?

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

Him murdering a conservative out of hatred is pretty damning evidence he wasn’t a conservative. There is zero evidence linking him to alt right organizations or Nick Fuentes.

Except Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk and it is well accepted that he is extreme right.

Nick Fuentes didn’t murder anyone. There is no confirmed linking the two together anyhow. Nick Fuentes denies the memes having anything to do with him or his organization. Bunch of conspiracy theories
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/15/groyper-charlie-kirk-nick-fuentes-tyler-robinson

Sure, sure…cool.

I look forward to hearing about it when the court case rolls around.

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lol even if you take this “out of context” how is this not racist: “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.”

[Anonymous]

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“I'm a lifelong Democrat and I have spent hours out of my life the past few days watching Charlie Kirk debates”

She’s having an awakening after seeing that all the clips the media used to villainize Charlie Kirk were ALL LIES, they were all clipped and out of context

“The example I want to use is that clip that was everywhere that went viral, everybody was quoting it where Charlie said, I don't like the word empathy. We've probably all seen the short and the long version at this point where he goes on to clarify that he prefers the word sympathy.

Agree with them or disagree with them, doesn't matter to me. The point is the real conversation never happened because the clip was cut in half. Why? To reinforce the idea that the right is full of these monsters who reject human feelings.

That that wasn't an accident. That omission was deliberate and strategic”

She talks about how her own Party has become a “mob mentality”

“It's not about Charlie Kirk. It's about us taking the time to reflect. Are we living up to our own standards and our own ideals? Are we leading with Integrity? Are we just falling into a different version of the same trap? Because from my viewpoint, I don't know, it feels like we're becoming a lot like the things we claim to stand against”

What is the whole quote?

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

Him murdering a conservative out of hatred is pretty damning evidence he wasn’t a conservative. There is zero evidence linking him to alt right organizations or Nick Fuentes.

There’s a ton of evidence he’s linked to Nick Fuentes. It’s just that you don’t understand the evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter had his own thoughts on Kirk and was impulsive. He will regret this for the rest of his life and ruined the lives of all Kirk’s family and friends and his own family and friends. I equate this to suicide attempts— most are impulsive. He may have planned to kill Kirk, but he was acting on an anger impulse. He most likely affiliated very liberal on certain things like transgender issues since he had a transgender partner.

I doubt that anyone is going to legitimately be convinced that he was some left wing shooter, but the defense is likely going to talk a lot about how his extremist right wing upbringing damaged his psyche.

I’m convinced everyone thinks he is except people staunchly left (because they feel it reflects poorly on their party). But it doesn’t. He was left for sure- but way out there. It doesn’t take complex analysis to put together a kid that is gay, has a trans partner, has split with parents’ political feelings (which are conservative/right), feels compelled to murder a prominent conservative figure bc he finds him “hateful” isn’t maga/right

Holy fu86 balls you are stupid and narrow minded. You can be a white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, alt-right 2nd Amendment nut who loves fascism and STILL BE GAY/TRANS/FURRY aka anything not heterosexual. I want to shake you people. Being gay does not equal Democrat/progressive. I am almost 40 and have two brothers 5 years younger and 13 years younger. The amount of acceptance for the spectrum of sexuality and the influence of internet culture completely erased all normal lines of sexual/gender/identity between the first and the second brother and their peers. Its even more accepted and understood for kids younger than my youngest brother (aged 25).
Theres a whole piece on gay Republicans in the current administration. Their sexuality does not matter when they are assisting with the dismantling of Democracy. They care more for power, or proximity to it, compared to any qualms about anti-LGBTQ because the truth is they can still be gay and hateful. Allowing white nationalism and xenophobia to grow only increases their power as white men. As white men in a fascist society where people of color and women are beneath them they will still be able to do whatever the fu65 they want because being white = right and male =control/power. Sexuality wont play a role AT ALL.

And having maga parents and know how to shoot a gun does not make him maga. I’ve seen zero evidence he is maga. Liberals can own and shoot guns too. There is nothing to indicate he was alt right. I’m sure there are plenty of people in the gay/furry community who do not identify as alt right. That is not evidence of his political leaning

Wow the point just went over your head. He is alt alt right, more right than Charlie Kirk ( sadly thats an option apparently). Its a sub culture of MAGA, MAGA is more mainstream than what this kid believed and followed. He followed Nick Fuentes and others. Do you see any evidence that he listened to or had an affiliation with any liberal pundit or political figure? THE ANSWER IS NO BUT YOU WILL STILL SAY ...BUT HE COULD BE. MAGA is what allowed these, even more alt-right, groups to fester because MAGA NORMALIZED regressive policies on science and healthcare, anti-immigration and populism/nationalism/separatism.

There is nothing evidence he is alt right or alt alt right.

Just like there's no evidence he's a liberal. His friends said he's apolitical. That's the evidence we have. He's a white man with a gun.

His family clearly said he had moved left. Not sure which of his friends said he was apolitical.

They probably did say it and probably believe it, but what does moving to the left politically mean to them? Are they talking about his political positions on a broad variety of topics or just one issue in particular: how the LGBTQ+ community is viewed by Christian Nationalists like Charlie Kirk? Something deeply affected this previously apolitical individual who grew up steeped in MAGA and radicalized him against what Charlie Kirk stood for in his mind. Was it his partner? The gaming community? The perception that he and his partner were being dehumanized, even perhaps vilified by the religious Right? We don’t have answers to complicated questions like these.

Robinson could be all in on MAGA except for LGBTQ+ issues or he could favor legal abortion on demand, more relaxed enforcement of our borders, complete separation of Church and State, pulling our funding from Israel, a far more robust effort to fight climate change, laws that expand rather than restrict voting rights, etc.

We don’t know yet.

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Anonymous wrote:lol even if you take this “out of context” how is this not racist: “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.”

The only context that would change this meaning would be if he was setting this up as a straw man which he then took down. As in, some people say this. We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s. To that I say they are wrong.”

But that’s not what Charlie said. The only “context” missing is the Christian nationalist crap that makes it acceptable to those people. The context doesn’t change the intent.

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“I'm a lifelong Democrat and I have spent hours out of my life the past few days watching Charlie Kirk debates”

She’s having an awakening after seeing that all the clips the media used to villainize Charlie Kirk were ALL LIES, they were all clipped and out of context

“The example I want to use is that clip that was everywhere that went viral, everybody was quoting it where Charlie said, I don't like the word empathy. We've probably all seen the short and the long version at this point where he goes on to clarify that he prefers the word sympathy.

Agree with them or disagree with them, doesn't matter to me. The point is the real conversation never happened because the clip was cut in half. Why? To reinforce the idea that the right is full of these monsters who reject human feelings.

That that wasn't an accident. That omission was deliberate and strategic”

She talks about how her own Party has become a “mob mentality”

“It's not about Charlie Kirk. It's about us taking the time to reflect. Are we living up to our own standards and our own ideals? Are we leading with Integrity? Are we just falling into a different version of the same trap? Because from my viewpoint, I don't know, it feels like we're becoming a lot like the things we claim to stand against”

This is MAGA in a nutshell. When they find a person or a cause sympathetic, they feel great sympathy. They’ll give a person in need the shirt off their back. But they don’t have much empathy for anyone they can’t identify with easily. If they can’t see themselves in you, they don’t care. F@ck your feelings. That’s why they they wanted Trump to kick criminal immigrants out of the country, but are shocked he’d kick out the they know and love who are good people who just happen to be on the wrong side of the law.

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Anonymous wrote:When a conservative hero is murdered in front of thousands of people, and

- not one store is looted,

- not a single vehicle burned,

It tells you everything you need to know.

You all are burning down the constitution.

And looting the Treasury.

BS. Your side literally murders people for disagreeing.

Your side shot Democratic lawmakers and their families in their homes and firebombed the Pennsylvania governor’s residence while they slept. Get off your high horse.

I believe the penn gov home being firebombed was left wing.

Cody Balmer had anti-Biden posts on his Facebook.

Yes he was pro palestinian. So left wing.