Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Robinson also had a FurAffinity account and was a fan of artists on there who made explicit art of underaged characters. This is what happens when your brain becomes rotted with porn. These guys start going down these perverse pathways leading to weirder, more degenerate stuff.

+1 yes, the weirdness is appalling

What does it mean to be an underaged furry character? Puppy porn?

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Robinson also had a FurAffinity account and was a fan of artists on there who made explicit art of underaged characters. This is what happens when your brain becomes rotted with porn. These guys start going down these perverse pathways leading to weirder, more degenerate stuff.

Yep. Porn is ruining a generation of boys and we aren’t willing to talk about it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is creepy. So this Kirk guy "randomly" met his future wife in an airport line on the way to Israel during Trump's first term... and her prior claim to fame was competing in Miss America pageants, which we now know were a front for Trump, Epstein, Jean-Luc Brunel, et al.? And she privately worked for Trump, as well? Wtf.

Eerily similar background to Hope Hicks as well...

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Robinson also had a FurAffinity account and was a fan of artists on there who made explicit art of underaged characters. This is what happens when your brain becomes rotted with porn. These guys start going down these perverse pathways leading to weirder, more degenerate stuff.

Yep. Porn is ruining a generation of boys and we aren’t willing to talk about it.

+1. Republican Michigan legislators are currently seeking to ban porn and also VPNs, which are used to get around a hypothetical porn ban.

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/total-porn-ban-proposed-michigan-lawmakers

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Anonymous wrote:When a conservative hero is murdered in front of thousands of people, and

- not one store is looted,

- not a single vehicle burned,

It tells you everything you need to know.

You all are burning down the constitution.

+ a googolplex

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Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

They were there to keep people from throwing things at him, coming on stage, punching or slapping him, physically blocking him from leaving. They were there for minor disputes, not Secret Service-level protection. It seems neither he nor TPUSA paid for that kind of security detail.

Whose idea was is to throw a gravely injured Charlie and any potential evidence into the backseat of an SUV? Who made that decision?

Those kinds of details are not being announced publicly.

They just assumed Charlie was a goner? The unqualified bodyguards determined Charlie was brain dead and there was no need for any medical intervention?

They took him straight to a hospital, so obviously, they were seeking medical intervention.

I am talking immediate on site, qualified EMT intervention. Throwing him into the back of an SUV could have been what actually killed him if he had a c spine fracture.

I saw a message from his mentor who was there and with him in the SUV, I think it was on Tik Tok. But he said they briefly got a pulse from Charlie at the hospital, which I find hard to believe.

I encourage you to listen to the account of his friend, Frank Turek, who was in the SUV that transported Charlie to the hospital. The doctor at the hospital told him that he died immediately and was in no pain. He also said finding a faint pulse (which happened) is not unusual because he was a healthy man.

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Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

They were there to keep people from throwing things at him, coming on stage, punching or slapping him, physically blocking him from leaving. They were there for minor disputes, not Secret Service-level protection. It seems neither he nor TPUSA paid for that kind of security detail.

Whose idea was is to throw a gravely injured Charlie and any potential evidence into the backseat of an SUV? Who made that decision?

Those kinds of details are not being announced publicly.

They just assumed Charlie was a goner? The unqualified bodyguards determined Charlie was brain dead and there was no need for any medical intervention?

They took him straight to a hospital, so obviously, they were seeking medical intervention.

I am talking immediate on site, qualified EMT intervention. Throwing him into the back of an SUV could have been what actually killed him if he had a c spine fracture.

I saw a message from his mentor who was there and with him in the SUV, I think it was on Tik Tok. But he said they briefly got a pulse from Charlie at the hospital, which I find hard to believe.

I encourage you to listen to the account of his friend, Frank Turek, who was in the SUV that transported Charlie to the hospital. The doctor at the hospital told him that he died immediately and was in no pain. He also said finding a faint pulse (which happened) is not unusual because he was a healthy man.

When Charlie was carried to the car and placed into the back, there was no blood anywhere. When they were carrying him there should have been a trail of blood, blood on their clothes, etc. this stood out to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if they worked for Kirk, he should have had them trained. That’s the responsibility of the employer.

They worked for a security company. But obviously they ran off Alpha vibes instead of actual training.

They were negligent here and if it were anyone else they would be sued into oblivion.

What security company was it?

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Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

They were there to keep people from throwing things at him, coming on stage, punching or slapping him, physically blocking him from leaving. They were there for minor disputes, not Secret Service-level protection. It seems neither he nor TPUSA paid for that kind of security detail.

Whose idea was is to throw a gravely injured Charlie and any potential evidence into the backseat of an SUV? Who made that decision?

Those kinds of details are not being announced publicly.

They just assumed Charlie was a goner? The unqualified bodyguards determined Charlie was brain dead and there was no need for any medical intervention?

They took him straight to a hospital, so obviously, they were seeking medical intervention.

I am talking immediate on site, qualified EMT intervention. Throwing him into the back of an SUV could have been what actually killed him if he had a c spine fracture.

I saw a message from his mentor who was there and with him in the SUV, I think it was on Tik Tok. But he said they briefly got a pulse from Charlie at the hospital, which I find hard to believe.

I encourage you to listen to the account of his friend, Frank Turek, who was in the SUV that transported Charlie to the hospital. The doctor at the hospital told him that he died immediately and was in no pain. He also said finding a faint pulse (which happened) is not unusual because he was a healthy man.

When Charlie was carried to the car and placed into the back, there was no blood anywhere. When they were carrying him there should have been a trail of blood, blood on their clothes, etc. this stood out to me.

He likely lost all of his blood volume instantly, but still everyone and everything looked so clean.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if they worked for Kirk, he should have had them trained. That’s the responsibility of the employer.

They worked for a security company. But obviously they ran off Alpha vibes instead of actual training.

They were negligent here and if it were anyone else they would be sued into oblivion.

Just stop making these kinds of comments about something you know nothing about. According to the doctor at the hospital, Charlie died instantly.

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So I think I figured out what’s going on with the text messages.

We know that the shooter is not cooperating with authorities, has a lawyer, and allegedly destroyed his phone, clothing, and other evidence. So the police are getting information only from the boyfriend.

My theory is that the boyfriend received messages from the shooter and, in a moment of panic, either erases the messages or wiped his own phone. If the messages were end-to-end encrypted, they should be impossible to recover. If the messages were sent over an app rather than SMS texting, then the mobile service provider would not have anything to provide to authorities.

So the boyfriend relays the content of the text conversation with the shooter to the police. And now Utah police have put together a stylized transcript based on the testimony of the boyfriend. And this is what gets released to the public as part of the charging documents, because they are in a rush to release information. Recovering encrypted data from a mobile phone could take days or even weeks.

The police compile the stylized transcript, they let the boyfriend review it, and he says “Sure, that’s close enough” since he can’t remember every verbatim word or detail.

This would dovetail with Patel’s weird remark that they know of the shooter writing some sort of manifesto, but do not have access to it. If it’s encrypted and was deleted, it’s done-zo.

So yes, the text message chain was crafted by law enforcement but on the basis of testimony by the boyfriend about a real conversation that happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if they worked for Kirk, he should have had them trained. That’s the responsibility of the employer.

They worked for a security company. But obviously they ran off Alpha vibes instead of actual training.

They were negligent here and if it were anyone else they would be sued into oblivion.

Just stop making these kinds of comments about something you know nothing about. According to the doctor at the hospital, Charlie died instantly.

But even if someone dies instantly, like from a MVC, a fall, anything, you still wait for EMS. You never ever toss a body into the back of a car, that destroys evidence as well, it’s not what you do after a murder especially.

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So I think I figured out what’s going on with the text messages.

We know that the shooter is not cooperating with authorities, has a lawyer, and allegedly destroyed his phone, clothing, and other evidence. So the police are getting information only from the boyfriend.

My theory is that the boyfriend received messages from the shooter and, in a moment of panic, either erases the messages or wiped his own phone. If the messages were end-to-end encrypted, they should be impossible to recover. If the messages were sent over an app rather than SMS texting, then the mobile service provider would not have anything to provide to authorities.

So the boyfriend relays the content of the text conversation with the shooter to the police. And now Utah police have put together a stylized transcript based on the testimony of the boyfriend. And this is what gets released to the public as part of the charging documents, because they are in a rush to release information. Recovering encrypted data from a mobile phone could take days or even weeks.

The police compile the stylized transcript, they let the boyfriend review it, and he says “Sure, that’s close enough” since he can’t remember every verbatim word or detail.

This would dovetail with Patel’s weird remark that they know of the shooter writing some sort of manifesto, but do not have access to it. If it’s encrypted and was deleted, it’s done-zo.

So yes, the text message chain was crafted by law enforcement but on the basis of testimony by the boyfriend about a real conversation that happened.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to get that thrown out of the case if that were true. This FBI and DOJ are so incompetent that this kid will probably end up in an elected position by the time the trial is over.

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To add, Charlie was the only one shot here, this wasn’t a mass shooting. This makes it even harder to understand the panic of tossing him into the back of the car.

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Anonymous wrote:My 85 year old parents aren’t political in any way. Don’t watch cable news. They asked me how this kid was so rich. From their POV, he seemed like a sh** stirrer fanning the flames. Paid millions to divide youth.

Darn good assessment.

One of the entities paying him was the fossil fuel industry. He said whatever the highest bidder paid him to say.