Biles out

[Anonymous]

I’m still confused about what happened. Did she get the twisties or was/is it about her mental health? The two aren’t the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m still confused about what happened. Did she get the twisties or was/is it about her mental health? The two aren’t the same.

The 2 are related.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile there comes a young gymnast who does not make many mistakes. They are lauded.

But usually, the top gymnasts do make a few bobbles in a high level competition. This is normal.

Biles was a gymnast that last Olympics did not make many of those normal bobbles. Whatever happened recently, she quit 5% in to her 2nd Olympics.

Oh well. There could be many reasons for that. That's too bad she didn't retire several months ago. Or create routines she was more confident about. Or brush off the "be perfect all the time" BS.

Just do your best, as all the athletes who did perform this week, did. Well prepared, trained, ready. Just do your best and everything will be OK. Look at Ledecky getting 5th in a race with 2 people crossing olympic records: "That was a tough race!" And it was. THen she went and swam and won her 1500m.

I don’t necessarily agree with everything you’re saying here, but I do wonder whether never having faltered before had something to do with all this. I can’t imagine being a high level athlete who has literally never faltered until their second Olympics where they are basically the face of the Games for their country. It’s not good for an athlete to never lose or mess up. It puts more and more pressure on them and makes it that much harder when they inevitably don’t have a perfect performance (because they are human after all). I think it’s better to deal with failure and disappointment when the stakes are low, if possible. It’s how we’re supposed to parent our kids — let them fail early when the consequences aren’t too big or they will crumble if they don’t experience failure until they’re adults.

I know Simone has faced a lot of adversity in her life and is obviously very tough. But “failing” at gymnastics does seem like a completely new experience for her and maybe on top of other things in the background tipped her over the edge in terms of her mental health and confidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m still confused about what happened. Did she get the twisties or was/is it about her mental health? The two aren’t the same.

No one knows, except possibly her

[Anonymous]

She pulled out of vault and uneven bar finals. I feel so bad for her- so much training for this one week and she has to sit it out.

However I am happy that Mykayla will get a chance to medal on vault!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've not seen anything that even remotely hints at racism on this thread.

Jeff has removed quite a few posts for being racist/misogynistic/doubting about whether mental health issues are real health issues.

I’ve been watching this thread like a Hawk. Even the posts that have been removed were not even a tiny tiny tiny bit racist. Zero. Zero.

There is no racism on this thread. I know that does not fit your narrative, but it’s the truth.

Oh yes, dear official arbiter of what is racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m still confused about what happened. Did she get the twisties or was/is it about her mental health? The two aren’t the same.

The twisties are a mental block that is usually due to intense stress, pressure or fear. This is her body’s way of saying get me out of here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've not seen anything that even remotely hints at racism on this thread.

Jeff has removed quite a few posts for being racist/misogynistic/doubting about whether mental health issues are real health issues.

I’ve been watching this thread like a Hawk. Even the posts that have been removed were not even a tiny tiny tiny bit racist. Zero. Zero.

There is no racism on this thread. I know that does not fit your narrative, but it’s the truth.

Oh yes, dear official arbiter of what is racist.

Just like “bullying” and “troll”, the word racism has lost all meaning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m still confused about what happened. Did she get the twisties or was/is it about her mental health? The two aren’t the same.

My guess is that being unable to safely compete skills she has been training for years had a pretty negative impact on her mental health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I blame the media for focusing exclusively on Simone. It was too much pressure.

I blame the media for continuing to focus on her. She’s done. Move onto the other athletes.

Simone needs to step away from gymnastics now. That’s the only way to stop the media attention. At the very least, she needs to step back for a couple years and pivot to something else.

All that focus was dollar signs for her too.

[Anonymous]

She's old news. Only in lala land is being unprepared, then losing, then quitting on your teammates more honorable and eternalize you as a goat. And it was totally narcissistic for her to remain in Japan to steal the spotlight from her teammates. Rules don't apply to the annoying diva.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m still confused about what happened. Did she get the twisties or was/is it about her mental health? The two aren’t the same.

Considering there has been several explanations from being overwhelmed, stresses, not able to take adhd meds, trauma from previous things (nasser, childhood), this isn’t an acute case of twisties. The twisties is one of the many symptoms of her larger mental break.

[Anonymous]

Doesn't she have to leave Japan? I thought the Covid rule was that you had to exit the country within 48 hours of your last event.

[Anonymous]

She is still registered for beam, so until she decides if she is competing on that, she stays in Japan. I'm glad she isn't doing floor - if there is any risk of the twisties, that is too dangerous.

[Anonymous]

This thread also applies to the unhinged, angry DCUM PPs. It must make you so bitter that the love and support for her just keeps growing as you all try to throw more and more pathetic daggers.

"It is worth noting the grasping nature of the attacks. There is a desperation to them, almost if they were driven by a self loathing mixed with shame. They seem shamed not only by their own obvious lack of achievements but also by an absence of any evidence that they ever made an attempt in the first place"