Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

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Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.

Wrong. All they are asking for is merit and fairness.

The admission process is all rigged. Students from crappy schools with below 3.5 gpa got accepted. oh that's right... diversity..

How Trumpy of you

Next, they'll found MFCPSGA to further their pro-prep agenda.

[Anonymous]

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Mediocre minds can be trained to perform extremely well on the Quant-Q by paying for the tricks that brilliant minds come up with on their own - which is the point of the exam.

So, you're admitting that the brilliant minds performed well and generally got into TJ in the old system, along with some highly prepped mediocre kids? How exactly are the brilliant minds detected in the new system? Or is TJ no longer for the brilliant minds?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.

Wrong. All they are asking for is merit and fairness.

Test-taking ability is not a skill that indicates merit in STEM.

When it comes to math, that is exactly how it is determined. It’s the ultimate truth - there is a right and wrong answer and you know how to solve it or you don’t. Brilliant minds do well, mediocre minds not so well.

Mediocre minds can be trained to perform extremely well on the Quant-Q by paying for the tricks that brilliant minds come up with on their own - which is the point of the exam.

The words wrestling and pig come to mind. Such a brilliant argument, my friend

[Anonymous]

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Mediocre minds can be trained to perform extremely well on the Quant-Q by paying for the tricks that brilliant minds come up with on their own - which is the point of the exam.

So, you're admitting that the brilliant minds performed well and generally got into TJ in the old system, along with some highly prepped mediocre kids? How exactly are the brilliant minds detected in the new system? Or is TJ no longer for the brilliant minds?

No

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Mediocre minds can be trained to perform extremely well on the Quant-Q by paying for the tricks that brilliant minds come up with on their own - which is the point of the exam.

So, you're admitting that the brilliant minds performed well and generally got into TJ in the old system, along with some highly prepped mediocre kids? How exactly are the brilliant minds detected in the new system? Or is TJ no longer for the brilliant minds?

I wrote the old post, and yes, I am. I’ve been around TJ longer than anyone on this board, and I’ve seen firsthand so many of the genuinely brilliant minds that have come through that school. Went to school with a bunch of them in fact!

I will say, while I’m happy that they got rid of the exam because it objectively was too deeply compromised - as any exam would be under these circumstances unless the format and topics were changed every year - I do think they made an error in removing the teacher recommendations. Teachers can paint a better picture of the students than anyone else and a well-trained admissions counselor can sniff out biases in large batches of recommendations.

I think the big question will be - did they develop essay questions that allow students to separate themselves based on certain areas that both portend success at a place like TJ and evaluate potential contributions to the classroom environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Mediocre minds can be trained to perform extremely well on the Quant-Q by paying for the tricks that brilliant minds come up with on their own - which is the point of the exam.

So, you're admitting that the brilliant minds performed well and generally got into TJ in the old system, along with some highly prepped mediocre kids? How exactly are the brilliant minds detected in the new system? Or is TJ no longer for the brilliant minds?

I wrote the old post, and yes, I am. I’ve been around TJ longer than anyone on this board, and I’ve seen firsthand so many of the genuinely brilliant minds that have come through that school. Went to school with a bunch of them in fact!

I will say, while I’m happy that they got rid of the exam because it objectively was too deeply compromised - as any exam would be under these circumstances unless the format and topics were changed every year - I do think they made an error in removing the teacher recommendations. Teachers can paint a better picture of the students than anyone else and a well-trained admissions counselor can sniff out biases in large batches of recommendations.

I think the big question will be - did they develop essay questions that allow students to separate themselves based on certain areas that both portend success at a place like TJ and evaluate potential contributions to the classroom environment.

Format and topics could have been easily changed. They couldn't risk having the same racial composition though with a new format, non standard test. Therefore the elaborate criteria that are deliberately vague and can therefore be manipulated to suit a desired agenda.

Giving you the benefit of doubt that you actually went to TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Mediocre minds can be trained to perform extremely well on the Quant-Q by paying for the tricks that brilliant minds come up with on their own - which is the point of the exam.

So, you're admitting that the brilliant minds performed well and generally got into TJ in the old system, along with some highly prepped mediocre kids? How exactly are the brilliant minds detected in the new system? Or is TJ no longer for the brilliant minds?

I wrote the old post, and yes, I am. I’ve been around TJ longer than anyone on this board, and I’ve seen firsthand so many of the genuinely brilliant minds that have come through that school. Went to school with a bunch of them in fact!

I will say, while I’m happy that they got rid of the exam because it objectively was too deeply compromised - as any exam would be under these circumstances unless the format and topics were changed every year - I do think they made an error in removing the teacher recommendations. Teachers can paint a better picture of the students than anyone else and a well-trained admissions counselor can sniff out biases in large batches of recommendations.

I think the big question will be - did they develop essay questions that allow students to separate themselves based on certain areas that both portend success at a place like TJ and evaluate potential contributions to the classroom environment.

Nice try but they were clearly stating the opposite which makes a lot more sense. Buying the answers from Curie isn't a sign of brilliance.

[Anonymous]

If it is just about selecting the best and brightest and putting them in one high school I believe TJ has run its course. Because best and brightest seems to correlate highly with most prepped. And prepping requires time and money a large demographic doesn’t have.

You may argue that even poor kids can prep. But the demographics of recent TJ classes suggest otherwise.

If TJ were anything but a public school this all would be ok. Unfortunately the optics of kids who have educational advantages in elementary and middle school getting more advantages in high school is not good. Race aside.

The reform so far is good but we need more starting in elementary. As an outsider looking in AAP is disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it is just about selecting the best and brightest and putting them in one high school I believe TJ has run its course. Because best and brightest seems to correlate highly with most prepped. And prepping requires time and money a large demographic doesn’t have.

You may argue that even poor kids can prep. But the demographics of recent TJ classes suggest otherwise.

If TJ were anything but a public school this all would be ok. Unfortunately the optics of kids who have educational advantages in elementary and middle school getting more advantages in high school is not good. Race aside.

The reform so far is good but we need more starting in elementary. As an outsider looking in AAP is disgusting.

You are lying. High correlation needs to be backed up with numbers and statistical analysis. You can't just lie about it. Your racial bias is not a fact.

TJ students are highly accomplished. They represented US math, physics, CS, biology, chem teams. They have hundreds of National Merit Semi-Finalists every year. Yes TJ is the #1 high school in America.

You don't like the kids because of their race. That's fine. But you can't lie about them. You either come up with some real facts or go away. Do you even have kids in FCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If it is just about selecting the best and brightest and putting them in one high school I believe TJ has run its course. Because best and brightest seems to correlate highly with most prepped. And prepping requires time and money a large demographic doesn’t have.

You may argue that even poor kids can prep. But the demographics of recent TJ classes suggest otherwise.

If TJ were anything but a public school this all would be ok. Unfortunately the optics of kids who have educational advantages in elementary and middle school getting more advantages in high school is not good. Race aside.

The reform so far is good but we need more starting in elementary. As an outsider looking in AAP is disgusting.

You are lying. High correlation needs to be backed up with numbers and statistical analysis. You can't just lie about it. Your racial bias is not a fact.

TJ students are highly accomplished. They represented US math, physics, CS, biology, chem teams. They have hundreds of National Merit Semi-Finalists every year. Yes TJ is the #1 high school in America.

You don't like the kids because of their race. That's fine. But you can't lie about them. You either come up with some real facts or go away. Do you even have kids in FCPS?

The kids you described are still going to get into TJ even under the new system.

[Anonymous]

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TJ students are highly accomplished. They represented US math, physics, CS, biology, chem teams. They have hundreds of National Merit Semi-Finalists every year. Yes TJ is the #1 high school in America.

You don't like the kids because of their race. That's fine. But you can't lie about them. You either come up with some real facts or go away. Do you even have kids in FCPS?

The kids you described are still going to get into TJ even under the new system.

How? When they're evaluated purely on GPA and one essay with no tests, no teacher recommendations, no weight given to STEM achievements, and no weight given to math class level, the highly accomplished kids will be indistinguishable from the above average kids. Do you really think the TJ selection committee just magically knows which 4.0 GPA kid is brilliant and which one is simply highly prepped?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If it is just about selecting the best and brightest and putting them in one high school I believe TJ has run its course. Because best and brightest seems to correlate highly with most prepped. And prepping requires time and money a large demographic doesn’t have.

You may argue that even poor kids can prep. But the demographics of recent TJ classes suggest otherwise.

If TJ were anything but a public school this all would be ok. Unfortunately the optics of kids who have educational advantages in elementary and middle school getting more advantages in high school is not good. Race aside.

The reform so far is good but we need more starting in elementary. As an outsider looking in AAP is disgusting.

You are lying. High correlation needs to be backed up with numbers and statistical analysis. You can't just lie about it. Your racial bias is not a fact.

TJ students are highly accomplished. They represented US math, physics, CS, biology, chem teams. They have hundreds of National Merit Semi-Finalists every year. Yes TJ is the #1 high school in America.

You don't like the kids because of their race. That's fine. But you can't lie about them. You either come up with some real facts or go away. Do you even have kids in FCPS?

They are prepped. Now you are lying if you say they aren’t. How do you think kids get good at math competitions or physics competitions etc,? I’m not taking away these kids’’ accomplishments or belittling their hard work. It’s just true that these kids are working hard outside of school to compete in both these extracurriculars and TJ admissions. Evidence of this fact is the sheer number of tutoring shops like mathnasium and curie in NOVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is just about selecting the best and brightest and putting them in one high school I believe TJ has run its course. Because best and brightest seems to correlate highly with most prepped. And prepping requires time and money a large demographic doesn’t have.

You may argue that even poor kids can prep. But the demographics of recent TJ classes suggest otherwise.

If TJ were anything but a public school this all would be ok. Unfortunately the optics of kids who have educational advantages in elementary and middle school getting more advantages in high school is not good. Race aside.

The reform so far is good but we need more starting in elementary. As an outsider looking in AAP is disgusting.

You are lying. High correlation needs to be backed up with numbers and statistical analysis. You can't just lie about it. Your racial bias is not a fact.

TJ students are highly accomplished. They represented US math, physics, CS, biology, chem teams. They have hundreds of National Merit Semi-Finalists every year. Yes TJ is the #1 high school in America.

You don't like the kids because of their race. That's fine. But you can't lie about them. You either come up with some real facts or go away. Do you even have kids in FCPS?

They are prepped. Now you are lying if you say they aren’t. How do you think kids get good at math competitions or physics competitions etc,? I’m not taking away these kids’’ accomplishments or belittling their hard work. It’s just true that these kids are working hard outside of school to compete in both these extracurriculars and TJ admissions. Evidence of this fact is the sheer number of tutoring shops like mathnasium and curie in NOVA.

Yes. Of course they prepare. It takes work for kids or anyone to get good at math, physics or even programming! Even the best of them need to work hard for excellence. It is indeed an upside down world when hard work and excellence is a bad thing. I hope people like you are in a minority. Else we are done for as a country!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Mediocre minds can be trained to perform extremely well on the Quant-Q by paying for the tricks that brilliant minds come up with on their own - which is the point of the exam.

So, you're admitting that the brilliant minds performed well and generally got into TJ in the old system, along with some highly prepped mediocre kids? How exactly are the brilliant minds detected in the new system? Or is TJ no longer for the brilliant minds?

I wrote the old post, and yes, I am. I’ve been around TJ longer than anyone on this board, and I’ve seen firsthand so many of the genuinely brilliant minds that have come through that school. Went to school with a bunch of them in fact!

I will say, while I’m happy that they got rid of the exam because it objectively was too deeply compromised - as any exam would be under these circumstances unless the format and topics were changed every year - I do think they made an error in removing the teacher recommendations. Teachers can paint a better picture of the students than anyone else and a well-trained admissions counselor can sniff out biases in large batches of recommendations.

I think the big question will be - did they develop essay questions that allow students to separate themselves based on certain areas that both portend success at a place like TJ and evaluate potential contributions to the classroom environment.

Format and topics could have been easily changed. They couldn't risk having the same racial composition though with a new format, non standard test. Therefore the elaborate criteria that are deliberately vague and can therefore be manipulated to suit a desired agenda.

Giving you the benefit of doubt that you actually went to TJ.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's obvious by now that the "prepping" posters are just straight up lying. They have no evidence or facts to back up their ridiculous accusation that most of TJ students got in because of prepping. They keep saying it because of the racial bias they have. The only fact known is that most of the cheaters caught in the recent college admission scandals are white parents. Prepping is too hard for them, so they hired someone to take the tests.

FCPS shouldn't base its policy based on innuendos or racial biases. It should be based on facts and logic.

White parents also bribed SAT employees to change the SAT scores of their children as well. They deserve maximum prison sentences. I think they are projecting their twisted and guilty conscience on to Asian parents.

Who prepped the most for travel sports (which is legal)? White parents too.

How are travel sports relevant to this conversation at all?

Because we are talking about prepping. When Asians prep, it’s evil and when others prep, it’s enrichment.

There is no equivalency between travel sports and publicly funded elite educational opportunities.

No it has the same effect and it skews admissions heavily in favor of those who do it.

Are you talking about scholarship athletes who compete for the school? Those kids are creating value for the university through what they do on the field, or the court, or whatever. They bring in ticket revenue, donations, alumni engagement….. how many Ls do you want to take today?

DP, but presumably students in schools prepare for eventual employment opportunities in the future, wherein they would be creating value for their future companies based on the what they do in the office, or whatever. They bring in revenue, grants, consulting opportunities.... academics are known for pursing opportunities where the eventual payoff is inferred and delayed.

I'm pretty sure that's what PP was getting at, if you took the time to see things from other people's point of view.

Yes, but the athletes provide value to the school directly. If you took the time to look at the situation from the school’s point of view, you’d get that.

Schools are publicly funded for the purpose of developing successful students who will eventually add value to the community. Yes, it's not a perfect comparison, but we shouldn't pretend that the comparison isn't there.