School residency cheaters investigated

[Anonymous]

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lol good luck with that! everyone knows it is just a cinch to create novel false claims act theories that don't fit the plain language of the statute, and also to get the govt to intervene in cases that they may not support! but go ahead anyway.

Fraudulently getting government benefits is exactly what false claims laws are for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there are a handful of situations where family instability leads to confusing residency. Those can be dealt with on a case by case basis. But it's unlikely the lady driving the Escalade with Maryland tags is suffering much instability - she's just cheating. Not all Maryland parents are cheaters, but not all Maryland parents are innocent either.

We get it. Your own social insecurity makes escalades attractive to you. Naturally, when you see someone driving one, you do an assessment of their social caste.

You're all gross. Escalades are gross. You, with your escalade envy, are even more gross. In a happier world, we could lock you all in an exurban mall and never have to see any of you again.

Nah. I happily drive a 9 year old minivan for work. I just don't like people like you excusing the cheating of someone who drives a $74,000 car by saying she must have an unstable life that requires her to place her child with grandparents. She's a cheater.

Your minivan is also gross. You shouldn't be driving to work at all. You drive a car that seats 6-8 people to work. By yourself.

$74,000 car, and taking advantage of DCPS. You are part of the reason our schools lack the funding they need.

I don't drive an escalade, I barely drive, and I live in DC. Your entitlement, which extends to you assuming it is your God given right to ferry your gigantic inefficient car all over the place is the reason this city is such a hellhole.

[Anonymous]

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Did you read the statute? Schools get money, that's m-o-n-e-y, based on enrollment. Students who are enrolled are the beneficiaries of that money. I don't need to convince you. The false claims attorneys will figure it out.

lol good luck with that! everyone knows it is just a cinch to create novel false claims act theories that don't fit the plain language of the statute, and also to get the govt to intervene in cases that they may not support! but go ahead anyway.

Ok, let's look at the plain language:

(a) Any person who commits any of the following acts shall be liable to the District for 3 times the amount of damages which the District sustains because of the act of that person. A person who commits any of the following acts shall also be liable to the District for the costs of a civil action brought to recover penalties or damages, and shall be liable to the District for a civil penalty of not less than $5,500, and not more than $11,000, for each false or fraudulent claim for which the person:

(1) Knowingly presents, or causes to be presented, a false or fraudulent claim for payment or approval;

(2) Knowingly makes, uses, or causes to be made or used, a false record or statement material to a false or fraudulent claim;

A school administrator that requests funding based on enrollment knowing that enrolled students are not D.C. residents has caused a false claim to be presented for approval.
A parent who falsifies residency information has knowingly used a false record that is material to a false claim.

Note that the parent can be liable even if cannot be shown that the administrators know their enrollment numbers are false, so long as the parent knows that the documents they use to prove residency are false.

How can it be any more plain?

indeed, winning giant false claims cases is like falling off a log!!

a suit against a charter school that knowingly solicited MD residents to enroll? Maybe, although you still have to figure out if a government unit can make a false claim against another government unit. A FCA suit against a parent? No. They are not making a "claim". Plus, good luck getting any $$ out of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

lol good luck with that! everyone knows it is just a cinch to create novel false claims act theories that don't fit the plain language of the statute, and also to get the govt to intervene in cases that they may not support! but go ahead anyway.

Fraudulently getting government benefits is exactly what false claims laws are for.

lol no

[Anonymous]

Today's newest installment. Looks like they are also adding another part tomorrow: "Waitlisted Parents Fight Back"

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/11/maryland-fraudsters-steal-dc-educations-that-cost-more-than-harvard/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today's newest installment. Looks like they are also adding another part tomorrow: "Waitlisted Parents Fight Back"

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/11/maryland-fraudsters-steal-dc-educations-that-cost-more-than-harvard/

Just like trashy TV, so crazy and full of stereotypes but some truth to it and can't stop watching/reading Browser has press conference today re Chancellor and some other issues.

[Anonymous]

Wow, couldn't read the whole thread, but is the person in this one for real?:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/07/maryland-parent-uses-dc-apartment-to-prove-residency-so-kids-attend-district-schools/

Or is she like the fictitious welfare queens? If she is real, why on earth would she talk to that "reporter"?! Boggling!

Incidentally, I came here to check the board because one of my neighbors mentioned that the Washington Post did an investigative series on residence fraud. I couldn't find anything on the wapo website easily. Did they mean this or did wapo do something too? If not they should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't drive an escalade, I barely drive, and I live in DC. Your entitlement, which extends to you assuming it is your God given right to ferry your gigantic inefficient car all over the place is the reason this city is such a hellhole.

Whatever your say, PG. I drive my kids to school, then myself to work, and then I pick up my kids and their friends from aftercare. Unless DC wants to build public transport between my house, my kids' schools, and my job, I'm stuck driving. I'm pretty sure my decision to drive isn't fraudulent.

Stick to the topic. Your efforts at deflection won't work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Did you read the statute? Schools get money, that's m-o-n-e-y, based on enrollment. Students who are enrolled are the beneficiaries of that money. I don't need to convince you. The false claims attorneys will figure it out.

lol good luck with that! everyone knows it is just a cinch to create novel false claims act theories that don't fit the plain language of the statute, and also to get the govt to intervene in cases that they may not support! but go ahead anyway.

Ok, let's look at the plain language:

(a) Any person who commits any of the following acts shall be liable to the District for 3 times the amount of damages which the District sustains because of the act of that person. A person who commits any of the following acts shall also be liable to the District for the costs of a civil action brought to recover penalties or damages, and shall be liable to the District for a civil penalty of not less than $5,500, and not more than $11,000, for each false or fraudulent claim for which the person:

(1) Knowingly presents, or causes to be presented, a false or fraudulent claim for payment or approval;

(2) Knowingly makes, uses, or causes to be made or used, a false record or statement material to a false or fraudulent claim;

A school administrator that requests funding based on enrollment knowing that enrolled students are not D.C. residents has caused a false claim to be presented for approval.
A parent who falsifies residency information has knowingly used a false record that is material to a false claim.

Note that the parent can be liable even if cannot be shown that the administrators know their enrollment numbers are false, so long as the parent knows that the documents they use to prove residency are false.

How can it be any more plain?

indeed, winning giant false claims cases is like falling off a log!!

a suit against a charter school that knowingly solicited MD residents to enroll? Maybe, although you still have to figure out if a government unit can make a false claim against another government unit. A FCA suit against a parent? No. They are not making a "claim". Plus, good luck getting any $$ out of them.

Two can do that:

Being sued is fun! Everyone loves hiring lawyers and being at risk of personal liability! If parents or administrators get sued, no other parents or administrators will think twice! They will keep right on keeping on because they love litigation! And if you're right about your interpretation of the law, nothing bad ever happens to you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, couldn't read the whole thread, but is the person in this one for real?:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/07/maryland-parent-uses-dc-apartment-to-prove-residency-so-kids-attend-district-schools/

Or is she like the fictitious welfare queens? If she is real, why on earth would she talk to that "reporter"?! Boggling!

Incidentally, I came here to check the board because one of my neighbors mentioned that the Washington Post did an investigative series on residence fraud. I couldn't find anything on the wapo website easily. Did they mean this or did wapo do something too? If not they should.

The WaPo hasn't done investigative journalism since Watergate. They're too busy fluffing Hillary to be bothered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, couldn't read the whole thread, but is the person in this one for real?:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/07/maryland-parent-uses-dc-apartment-to-prove-residency-so-kids-attend-district-schools/

Or is she like the fictitious welfare queens? If she is real, why on earth would she talk to that "reporter"?! Boggling!

Incidentally, I came here to check the board because one of my neighbors mentioned that the Washington Post did an investigative series on residence fraud. I couldn't find anything on the wapo website easily. Did they mean this or did wapo do something too? If not they should.

The WaPo hasn't done investigative journalism since Watergate. They're too busy fluffing Hillary to be bothered.

Not to mention that the Post has a lot of liberal guilt about running investigative stories that portray the DC government in a truly negative light.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Did you read the statute? Schools get money, that's m-o-n-e-y, based on enrollment. Students who are enrolled are the beneficiaries of that money. I don't need to convince you. The false claims attorneys will figure it out.

lol good luck with that! everyone knows it is just a cinch to create novel false claims act theories that don't fit the plain language of the statute, and also to get the govt to intervene in cases that they may not support! but go ahead anyway.

Ok, let's look at the plain language:

(a) Any person who commits any of the following acts shall be liable to the District for 3 times the amount of damages which the District sustains because of the act of that person. A person who commits any of the following acts shall also be liable to the District for the costs of a civil action brought to recover penalties or damages, and shall be liable to the District for a civil penalty of not less than $5,500, and not more than $11,000, for each false or fraudulent claim for which the person:

(1) Knowingly presents, or causes to be presented, a false or fraudulent claim for payment or approval;

(2) Knowingly makes, uses, or causes to be made or used, a false record or statement material to a false or fraudulent claim;

A school administrator that requests funding based on enrollment knowing that enrolled students are not D.C. residents has caused a false claim to be presented for approval.
A parent who falsifies residency information has knowingly used a false record that is material to a false claim.

Note that the parent can be liable even if cannot be shown that the administrators know their enrollment numbers are false, so long as the parent knows that the documents they use to prove residency are false.

How can it be any more plain?

indeed, winning giant false claims cases is like falling off a log!!

a suit against a charter school that knowingly solicited MD residents to enroll? Maybe, although you still have to figure out if a government unit can make a false claim against another government unit. A FCA suit against a parent? No. They are not making a "claim". Plus, good luck getting any $$ out of them.

Two can do that:

Being sued is fun! Everyone loves hiring lawyers and being at risk of personal liability! If parents or administrators get sued, no other parents or administrators will think twice! They will keep right on keeping on because they love litigation! And if you're right about your interpretation of the law, nothing bad ever happens to you!

The best lawsuit against a charter was a couple of years ago when a mother sued her son's DC charter for alleged staff misconduct against her son. The kicker was that she brought the lawsuit in a court in PG County where she and her son lived!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, couldn't read the whole thread, but is the person in this one for real?:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/07/maryland-parent-uses-dc-apartment-to-prove-residency-so-kids-attend-district-schools/

Or is she like the fictitious welfare queens? If she is real, why on earth would she talk to that "reporter"?! Boggling!

Incidentally, I came here to check the board because one of my neighbors mentioned that the Washington Post did an investigative series on residence fraud. I couldn't find anything on the wapo website easily. Did they mean this or did wapo do something too? If not they should.

Washington Post and others have been reporting on this same problem for 20 years now.

2015 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/police-officers-allegedly-enrolled-their-children-in-city-schools-illegally/2015/06/11/896eb078-106a-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html

2015 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/top-basketball-players-from-friendship-collegiate-idea-are-subjects-of-residency-investigation/2015/10/08/43849934-6dd4-11e5-b31c-d80d62b53e28_story.html

2014 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/excel-academy-public-charter-school-under-scrutiny-for-alleged-residency-fraud/2014/11/04/a23e7994-6435-11e4-836c-83bc4f26eb67_story.html

2013 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/former-dc-principal-is-accused-of-helping-relative-avoid-a-hefty-tuition-bill/2013/02/15/7551d568-779a-11e2-aa12-e6cf1d31106b_story.html

2013 - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/former-d.c.-principal-charged-with-tuition-fraud/article/2521741

2012 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-schools-insider/post/osse-report-district-pays-at-least-10-million-to-educate-non-resident-students/2012/05/16/gIQAxCOiUU_blog.html

2012- http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/d.c.-sues-md.-mother-for-tuition-fraud/article/2511208/comments

2011 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-schools-insider/post/dc-tries-to-draw-line-on-school-residency-fraud/2011/10/07/gIQALxDRTL_blog.html

2011 - http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/residency-fraud-in-d-c-schools-tough-to-identify-police/

1996 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1996/10/06/suburban-students-costing-dc-millions-in-lost-tuition/c208d958-96f3-4f9d-b664-7f36efd18e3d/

A related questions for the citizen investigators here: Do some of the same non-resident families who use fake addresses to get their kids into DCPS also use fake addresses to collect DC TAG money for college? https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/audit-of-dc-tag-tuition-assistance-program-shows-millions-of-dollars-unaccounted-for/2014/02/23/3ffcec58-9a7c-11e3-b88d-f36c07223d88_story.html I could easily see someone using grandma's DC address to apply for TAG benefits for college. Maybe a follow-up story for the Daily Caller crew?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Did you read the statute? Schools get money, that's m-o-n-e-y, based on enrollment. Students who are enrolled are the beneficiaries of that money. I don't need to convince you. The false claims attorneys will figure it out.

lol good luck with that! everyone knows it is just a cinch to create novel false claims act theories that don't fit the plain language of the statute, and also to get the govt to intervene in cases that they may not support! but go ahead anyway.

Ok, let's look at the plain language:

(a) Any person who commits any of the following acts shall be liable to the District for 3 times the amount of damages which the District sustains because of the act of that person. A person who commits any of the following acts shall also be liable to the District for the costs of a civil action brought to recover penalties or damages, and shall be liable to the District for a civil penalty of not less than $5,500, and not more than $11,000, for each false or fraudulent claim for which the person:

(1) Knowingly presents, or causes to be presented, a false or fraudulent claim for payment or approval;

(2) Knowingly makes, uses, or causes to be made or used, a false record or statement material to a false or fraudulent claim;

A school administrator that requests funding based on enrollment knowing that enrolled students are not D.C. residents has caused a false claim to be presented for approval.
A parent who falsifies residency information has knowingly used a false record that is material to a false claim.

Note that the parent can be liable even if cannot be shown that the administrators know their enrollment numbers are false, so long as the parent knows that the documents they use to prove residency are false.

How can it be any more plain?

indeed, winning giant false claims cases is like falling off a log!!

a suit against a charter school that knowingly solicited MD residents to enroll? Maybe, although you still have to figure out if a government unit can make a false claim against another government unit. A FCA suit against a parent? No. They are not making a "claim". Plus, good luck getting any $$ out of them.

Two can do that:

Being sued is fun! Everyone loves hiring lawyers and being at risk of personal liability! If parents or administrators get sued, no other parents or administrators will think twice! They will keep right on keeping on because they love litigation! And if you're right about your interpretation of the law, nothing bad ever happens to you!

the point is, you won't find a qui tam lawyer to take your dumb case on contingency. so you can pay out of pocket tens of thousands of dollars to your crappy lawyer until you get kicked out of court. sounds fun for you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, couldn't read the whole thread, but is the person in this one for real?:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/07/maryland-parent-uses-dc-apartment-to-prove-residency-so-kids-attend-district-schools/

Or is she like the fictitious welfare queens? If she is real, why on earth would she talk to that "reporter"?! Boggling!

Incidentally, I came here to check the board because one of my neighbors mentioned that the Washington Post did an investigative series on residence fraud. I couldn't find anything on the wapo website easily. Did they mean this or did wapo do something too? If not they should.

Washington Post and others have been reporting on this same problem for 20 years now.

2015 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/police-officers-allegedly-enrolled-their-children-in-city-schools-illegally/2015/06/11/896eb078-106a-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html

2015 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/top-basketball-players-from-friendship-collegiate-idea-are-subjects-of-residency-investigation/2015/10/08/43849934-6dd4-11e5-b31c-d80d62b53e28_story.html

2014 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/excel-academy-public-charter-school-under-scrutiny-for-alleged-residency-fraud/2014/11/04/a23e7994-6435-11e4-836c-83bc4f26eb67_story.html

2013 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/former-dc-principal-is-accused-of-helping-relative-avoid-a-hefty-tuition-bill/2013/02/15/7551d568-779a-11e2-aa12-e6cf1d31106b_story.html

2013 - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/former-d.c.-principal-charged-with-tuition-fraud/article/2521741

2012 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-schools-insider/post/osse-report-district-pays-at-least-10-million-to-educate-non-resident-students/2012/05/16/gIQAxCOiUU_blog.html

2012- http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/d.c.-sues-md.-mother-for-tuition-fraud/article/2511208/comments

2011 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-schools-insider/post/dc-tries-to-draw-line-on-school-residency-fraud/2011/10/07/gIQALxDRTL_blog.html

2011 - http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/residency-fraud-in-d-c-schools-tough-to-identify-police/

1996 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1996/10/06/suburban-students-costing-dc-millions-in-lost-tuition/c208d958-96f3-4f9d-b664-7f36efd18e3d/

A related questions for the citizen investigators here: Do some of the same non-resident families who use fake addresses to get their kids into DCPS also use fake addresses to collect DC TAG money for college? https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/audit-of-dc-tag-tuition-assistance-program-shows-millions-of-dollars-unaccounted-for/2014/02/23/3ffcec58-9a7c-11e3-b88d-f36c07223d88_story.html I could easily see someone using grandma's DC address to apply for TAG benefits for college. Maybe a follow-up story for the Daily Caller crew?

TAG fraud definitely. I would also wonder about UDC (to be renamed Marion Barry University according to a DC council bill), but UDC is crappy enough that residence fmight not be an issue even for PG-MD residents.