That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag

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Anonymous wrote:Guaranteed that once he leaves jail, sooner or later someone is going to beat the crap out of him. GOOD!!! Forget about violence doesn't solve anything or don't you lower yourself to their level. He needs to be taught a lesson big time.

What about the drunk antelope? When is she going to learn a lesson? Woke up in the hospital, felt embarrassed and decided to ruin his future. His name is smeared all over the media and she is remaining anonymous.

Some of the comments have been eye opening. Just out of curiosity PP and other PPs who are defending Brock or assigning equal blame on the victim, are you male or female?

Who has assigned "equal blame" on both Brock and the victim? Which posts?

Maybe not equal blame, but posts who mention that she (and women generally) played a role because of dress, intoxication, flirtation.... you get the picture.

She played a role. I'm sorry. She drank herself into oblivion, was kissing a 19 year old horny college guy and then left the party with him.

She was black out drunk (she did that to herself). she kissed this guy (her choice), she left the party with this guy that she did not know (her choice) presumably to go kiss him some more (why else would should leave with him).

She did not deserve to be sexually assaulted but there is some gray in this situation because IF she went behind that dumpster willingly and was fooling around willingly then she had opened the door to this guy touching her body in a sexual way. Did she protest? Did he ask permission? We don't know because she blacked out and passed out and has no memory of that night.

The info that got this guy convicted came from the Swedes. How long had she been passed out? 10 minutes or 10 seconds? We don't know.

We do know that whatever the Swedes saw alarmed them enough to get off of their bikes, chase and tackle this guy. The Swedes are the credible witnesses here and I have yet to see what their statements say. We have yet to see the police report. I feel terrible for this young woman - she has been through hell. But she absolutely did play a role in putting herself in that hellish situation because part of what made it so awful was the fact that she was passed out drunk and could not be a witness for herself. This isn't about blaming her for being sexually assaulted - that is her assailant's doing, this is about how she compounded the hellishness of it all by being passed out DRUNK and not knowing what exactly even happened to her.

When she woke up in that hospital she had know idea if she had been gang raped by drug addicts. She didn't know. That is scary.

She needed someone to walk her home. She called her boyfriend and he told her to go find her sister. She trusted the wrong guy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This rapist days are numbered, he's a marked man . He won't last, believe it. One of these days don't be surprised to hear about someone overdosing on sleeping pills , or better yet putting a bullet in his head, I guess that'll be the most action he'll see .

As for you rape apologist , be careful what you wish for , be really careful

You're an idiot. There are more men in America who would do the same and fully support Brock. Please note it was two Swedes who came to her rescue, not American men!

Don't go down that road. Swedes have a marked domestic violence problem of their own.

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Anonymous wrote:The two Swedes have been identified, and spoken up a little bit.

I admit sometimes it's nauseating to realize how many awful, violent, angry, and abusive men there are (and their supporters - victim blamers and enablers like some commenters here, and Brock's dad). But it is nice to know there are still many good and decent men out there, like these two.

Jesus Fucking Christ. "supporters", "victim blamers", and "enablers"?! Enough with your ridiculous accusations. Have you always stretched the truth like this? You sound like a victim constantly looking for an abuser to blame. Go take your meds and call your therapist.

Thank you for your collected, mature response. It speaks for itself, about the attitude driving it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The two Swedes have been identified, and spoken up a little bit.

I admit sometimes it's nauseating to realize how many awful, violent, angry, and abusive men there are (and their supporters - victim blamers and enablers like some commenters here, and Brock's dad). But it is nice to know there are still many good and decent men out there, like these two.

Jesus Fucking Christ. "supporters", "victim blamers", and "enablers"?! Enough with your ridiculous accusations. Have you always stretched the truth like this? You sound like a victim constantly looking for an abuser to blame. Go take your meds and call your therapist.

I am not PP, but I would point out that you are taking a classic play from the rapist and abuser playbook. Anytime a woman complains about rape or sexual harassment, abusers and rapists resort to a "a little bit slutty and a little bit nutty."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe she did consent and was too drunk to remember. Maybe she hadn't passed out until they were in the middle of the act.

When your partner passes out, play time is over. Don't fuck unconscious people.

It's not hard. It's a very black letter rule.

How many times have you been in that situation? How long did it take you to realize your partner was passed out?

The Swedish guys could tell from 20 feet away.

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Anonymous wrote:Guaranteed that once he leaves jail, sooner or later someone is going to beat the crap out of him. GOOD!!! Forget about violence doesn't solve anything or don't you lower yourself to their level. He needs to be taught a lesson big time.

What about the drunk antelope? When is she going to learn a lesson? Woke up in the hospital, felt embarrassed and decided to ruin his future. His name is smeared all over the media and she is remaining anonymous.

Some of the comments have been eye opening. Just out of curiosity PP and other PPs who are defending Brock or assigning equal blame on the victim, are you male or female?

Who has assigned "equal blame" on both Brock and the victim? Which posts?

Maybe not equal blame, but posts who mention that she (and women generally) played a role because of dress, intoxication, flirtation.... you get the picture.

She played a role. I'm sorry. She drank herself into oblivion, was kissing a 19 year old horny college guy and then left the party with him.

She was black out drunk (she did that to herself). she kissed this guy (her choice), she left the party with this guy that she did not know (her choice) presumably to go kiss him some more (why else would should leave with him).

She did not deserve to be sexually assaulted but there is some gray in this situation because IF she went behind that dumpster willingly and was fooling around willingly then she had opened the door to this guy touching her body in a sexual way. Did she protest? Did he ask permission? We don't know because she blacked out and passed out and has no memory of that night.

The info that got this guy convicted came from the Swedes. How long had she been passed out? 10 minutes or 10 seconds? We don't know.

We do know that whatever the Swedes saw alarmed them enough to get off of their bikes, chase and tackle this guy. The Swedes are the credible witnesses here and I have yet to see what their statements say. We have yet to see the police report. I feel terrible for this young woman - she has been through hell. But she absolutely did play a role in putting herself in that hellish situation because part of what made it so awful was the fact that she was passed out drunk and could not be a witness for herself. This isn't about blaming her for being sexually assaulted - that is her assailant's doing, this is about how she compounded the hellishness of it all by being passed out DRUNK and not knowing what exactly even happened to her.

When she woke up in that hospital she had know idea if she had been gang raped by drug addicts. She didn't know. That is scary.

You don't know that she drank herself to that level.... you don't know. find the video of her doing 20 shots, fine, but my bet is on him being given a sick bastard and preying on her to drink or spiking drinks... she did not do that. she was waiting for her sister.

I thought he was all over that party hitting on anything in a skirt - and getting rejected right and left. And then Emily Doe was too drunk to resist him so that's why she went off with him.

But now you're saying that this guy was spending the evening plying Emily Doe with spiked drinks? Interesting. Has any ever suggested that he got her drunk? Honestly I think that you are the first one to suggest this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she did consent and was too drunk to remember. Maybe she hadn't passed out until they were in the middle of the act.

When your partner passes out, play time is over. Don't fuck unconscious people.

It's not hard. It's a very black letter rule.

How many times have you been in that situation? How long did it take you to realize your partner was passed out?

The Swedish guys could tell from 20 feet away.

It was very well lit behind that dumpster. Not a dark, secluded location.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guaranteed that once he leaves jail, sooner or later someone is going to beat the crap out of him. GOOD!!! Forget about violence doesn't solve anything or don't you lower yourself to their level. He needs to be taught a lesson big time.

What about the drunk antelope? When is she going to learn a lesson? Woke up in the hospital, felt embarrassed and decided to ruin his future. His name is smeared all over the media and she is remaining anonymous.

Some of the comments have been eye opening. Just out of curiosity PP and other PPs who are defending Brock or assigning equal blame on the victim, are you male or female?

Who has assigned "equal blame" on both Brock and the victim? Which posts?

Maybe not equal blame, but posts who mention that she (and women generally) played a role because of dress, intoxication, flirtation.... you get the picture.

She played a role. I'm sorry. She drank herself into oblivion, was kissing a 19 year old horny college guy and then left the party with him.

She was black out drunk (she did that to herself). she kissed this guy (her choice), she left the party with this guy that she did not know (her choice) presumably to go kiss him some more (why else would should leave with him).

She did not deserve to be sexually assaulted but there is some gray in this situation because IF she went behind that dumpster willingly and was fooling around willingly then she had opened the door to this guy touching her body in a sexual way. Did she protest? Did he ask permission? We don't know because she blacked out and passed out and has no memory of that night.

The info that got this guy convicted came from the Swedes. How long had she been passed out? 10 minutes or 10 seconds? We don't know.

We do know that whatever the Swedes saw alarmed them enough to get off of their bikes, chase and tackle this guy. The Swedes are the credible witnesses here and I have yet to see what their statements say. We have yet to see the police report. I feel terrible for this young woman - she has been through hell. But she absolutely did play a role in putting herself in that hellish situation because part of what made it so awful was the fact that she was passed out drunk and could not be a witness for herself. This isn't about blaming her for being sexually assaulted - that is her assailant's doing, this is about how she compounded the hellishness of it all by being passed out DRUNK and not knowing what exactly even happened to her.

When she woke up in that hospital she had know idea if she had been gang raped by drug addicts. She didn't know. That is scary.

She needed someone to walk her home. She called her boyfriend and he told her to go find her sister. She trusted the wrong guy.

So she chose the drunk party moron to walk her home? The guy who had been hitting on the other women at the party? I think she may have been mad at her boyfriend for not picking her up and decided wth might as well kiss this guy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The two Swedes have been identified, and spoken up a little bit.

I admit sometimes it's nauseating to realize how many awful, violent, angry, and abusive men there are (and their supporters - victim blamers and enablers like some commenters here, and Brock's dad). But it is nice to know there are still many good and decent men out there, like these two.

Jesus Fucking Christ. "supporters", "victim blamers", and "enablers"?! Enough with your ridiculous accusations. Have you always stretched the truth like this? You sound like a victim constantly looking for an abuser to blame. Go take your meds and call your therapist.

I am not PP, but I would point out that you are taking a classic play from the rapist and abuser playbook. Anytime a woman complains about rape or sexual harassment, abusers and rapists resort to a "a little bit slutty and a little bit nutty."

We're having a (sometimes heated) discussion. If you're trying to persuade people, especially undecided people, calling those with different viewpoints very bad names is not persuasive. FYI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guaranteed that once he leaves jail, sooner or later someone is going to beat the crap out of him. GOOD!!! Forget about violence doesn't solve anything or don't you lower yourself to their level. He needs to be taught a lesson big time.

What about the drunk antelope? When is she going to learn a lesson? Woke up in the hospital, felt embarrassed and decided to ruin his future. His name is smeared all over the media and she is remaining anonymous.

Some of the comments have been eye opening. Just out of curiosity PP and other PPs who are defending Brock or assigning equal blame on the victim, are you male or female?

Who has assigned "equal blame" on both Brock and the victim? Which posts?

Maybe not equal blame, but posts who mention that she (and women generally) played a role because of dress, intoxication, flirtation.... you get the picture.

She played a role. I'm sorry. She drank herself into oblivion, was kissing a 19 year old horny college guy and then left the party with him.

She was black out drunk (she did that to herself). she kissed this guy (her choice), she left the party with this guy that she did not know (her choice) presumably to go kiss him some more (why else would should leave with him).

She did not deserve to be sexually assaulted but there is some gray in this situation because IF she went behind that dumpster willingly and was fooling around willingly then she had opened the door to this guy touching her body in a sexual way. Did she protest? Did he ask permission? We don't know because she blacked out and passed out and has no memory of that night.

The info that got this guy convicted came from the Swedes. How long had she been passed out? 10 minutes or 10 seconds? We don't know.

We do know that whatever the Swedes saw alarmed them enough to get off of their bikes, chase and tackle this guy. The Swedes are the credible witnesses here and I have yet to see what their statements say. We have yet to see the police report. I feel terrible for this young woman - she has been through hell. But she absolutely did play a role in putting herself in that hellish situation because part of what made it so awful was the fact that she was passed out drunk and could not be a witness for herself. This isn't about blaming her for being sexually assaulted - that is her assailant's doing, this is about how she compounded the hellishness of it all by being passed out DRUNK and not knowing what exactly even happened to her.

When she woke up in that hospital she had know idea if she had been gang raped by drug addicts. She didn't know. That is scary.

She needed someone to walk her home. She called her boyfriend and he told her to go find her sister. She trusted the wrong guy.

So she chose the drunk party moron to walk her home? The guy who had been hitting on the other women at the party? I think she may have been mad at her boyfriend for not picking her up and decided wth might as well kiss this guy.

The jury didn't agree with you. Since they heard all of the evidence, I am going to go with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she did consent and was too drunk to remember. Maybe she hadn't passed out until they were in the middle of the act.

When your partner passes out, play time is over. Don't fuck unconscious people.

It's not hard. It's a very black letter rule.

How many times have you been in that situation? How long did it take you to realize your partner was passed out?

The Swedish guys could tell from 20 feet away.

It was very well lit behind that dumpster. Not a dark, secluded location.

My partners all move. "Enthusiastic consent" is the name of the game. They don't lay there like a corpse. It should take less than 30 seconds to realize something is wrong.

If it doesn't, you are doing it wrong.

[Anonymous]

Was the victim white?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The two Swedes have been identified, and spoken up a little bit.

I admit sometimes it's nauseating to realize how many awful, violent, angry, and abusive men there are (and their supporters - victim blamers and enablers like some commenters here, and Brock's dad). But it is nice to know there are still many good and decent men out there, like these two.

Jesus Fucking Christ. "supporters", "victim blamers", and "enablers"?! Enough with your ridiculous accusations. Have you always stretched the truth like this? You sound like a victim constantly looking for an abuser to blame. Go take your meds and call your therapist.

I am not PP, but I would point out that you are taking a classic play from the rapist and abuser playbook. Anytime a woman complains about rape or sexual harassment, abusers and rapists resort to a "a little bit slutty and a little bit nutty."

We're having a (sometimes heated) discussion. If you're trying to persuade people, especially undecided people, calling those with different viewpoints very bad names is not persuasive. FYI.

New poster. And calling someone a "victim" looking for someone to blame to take meds is also not persuasive. FYI.

[Anonymous]

The boy is a rapist, entitlement taught by the father. There you have it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she did consent and was too drunk to remember. Maybe she hadn't passed out until they were in the middle of the act.

When your partner passes out, play time is over. Don't fuck unconscious people.

It's not hard. It's a very black letter rule.

How many times have you been in that situation? How long did it take you to realize your partner was passed out?

The Swedish guys could tell from 20 feet away.

It was very well lit behind that dumpster. Not a dark, secluded location.

One of the things that Turner was convicted of was "penetration with a foreign object." He shoved dirt and pine needles in her vagina. I am pretty sure that he was quite aware that she was unconscious.