Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do these entitled Oakton and Langley people think they deserve a menu of options and they can select their favorite? We are zoned for a mediocre school. No one is giving our kids an option to go somewhere else. It is what it is.

Why is there a demand to live in some locations more so than others?

I can't possibly think why that might be!

I bet a your local real estate agent can explain it?

Ha, yep. That prior poster whines incessantly about schools that are ranked higher than hers. It’s a clear inferiority complex, and for her, misery loves company.

DP. I'm sorry, but you people are so over the top annoying that I hope you get rezoned just to give you some humility. And to be blunt, your location sucks! I skipped right over it when buying a house. The schools are far away, shopping is far away, entertainment and activities are far away, commuter access is far away. I guess I can see why you are clinging to school rankings as the only thing you have going for you.

[Anonymous]

The Herndon people zoned to Oakton want sports? Send them to fill some of those empty seats at Westfield.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the eastern side of Crossfield’s boundary is actually quite far from the new school?

Crossfield is probably the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration from KAA.

The eastern side of Crossfield goes to Hughes/South Lakes.

That's only a small pocket and even that pocket would feed into KAA under Options C and D. There are also a number of Crossfield kids east of Lawyers Road attending Carson and Oakton. In fact, the entire Crossfield boundary sits east of Fairfax County Parkway.

I think pro Oakton families should use the fact Crossfield is the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration. That would be a stronger argument than “rooted in Oakton.”

There are STILL five high schools now that are closer to our homes than Oakton. FIVE.

Most of which are overcapacity!

Oh but the BuS rIDeS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do these entitled Oakton and Langley people think they deserve a menu of options and they can select their favorite? We are zoned for a mediocre school. No one is giving our kids an option to go somewhere else. It is what it is.

Why is there a demand to live in some locations more so than others?

I can't possibly think why that might be!

I bet a your local real estate agent can explain it?

Ha, yep. That prior poster whines incessantly about schools that are ranked higher than hers. It’s a clear inferiority complex, and for her, misery loves company.

DP. I'm sorry, but you people are so over the top annoying that I hope you get rezoned just to give you some humility. And to be blunt, your location sucks! I skipped right over it when buying a house. The schools are far away, shopping is far away, entertainment and activities are far away, commuter access is far away. I guess I can see why you are clinging to school rankings as the only thing you have going for you.

Fair Oaks mall, costco, whole foods are all 10 min away from crossfield. Reston Town center is maybe 15.

I mean if your driving to tysons 2 to shop then sure it's a bit of a drive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Herndon people zoned to Oakton want sports? Send them to fill some of those empty seats at Westfield.

So now you think Westfield is even worse than yours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do these entitled Oakton and Langley people think they deserve a menu of options and they can select their favorite? We are zoned for a mediocre school. No one is giving our kids an option to go somewhere else. It is what it is.

Why is there a demand to live in some locations more so than others?

I can't possibly think why that might be!

I bet a your local real estate agent can explain it?

Ha, yep. That prior poster whines incessantly about schools that are ranked higher than hers. It’s a clear inferiority complex, and for her, misery loves company.

DP. I'm sorry, but you people are so over the top annoying that I hope you get rezoned just to give you some humility. And to be blunt, your location sucks! I skipped right over it when buying a house. The schools are far away, shopping is far away, entertainment and activities are far away, commuter access is far away. I guess I can see why you are clinging to school rankings as the only thing you have going for you.

As long you start out any comment with I’m sorry it’s okay! But in all seriousness, no reason to attack several neighborhoods for your disagreement with one poster. I truly bet where you decided on a house is beautiful and I’m happy for you, there are a lot of those across our area. I love where I live too for many of the reasons you didn’t like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do these entitled Oakton and Langley people think they deserve a menu of options and they can select their favorite? We are zoned for a mediocre school. No one is giving our kids an option to go somewhere else. It is what it is.

Why is there a demand to live in some locations more so than others?

I can't possibly think why that might be!

I bet a your local real estate agent can explain it?

Ha, yep. That prior poster whines incessantly about schools that are ranked higher than hers. It’s a clear inferiority complex, and for her, misery loves company.

DP. I'm sorry, but you people are so over the top annoying that I hope you get rezoned just to give you some humility. And to be blunt, your location sucks! I skipped right over it when buying a house. The schools are far away, shopping is far away, entertainment and activities are far away, commuter access is far away. I guess I can see why you are clinging to school rankings as the only thing you have going for you.

Fair Oaks mall, costco, whole foods are all 10 min away from crossfield. Reston Town center is maybe 15.

I mean if your driving to tysons 2 to shop then sure it's a bit of a drive.

It's got to be a 40-60 minute bus ride on the Fairfax Connector!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the eastern side of Crossfield’s boundary is actually quite far from the new school?

Crossfield is probably the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration from KAA.

The eastern side of Crossfield goes to Hughes/South Lakes.

That's only a small pocket and even that pocket would feed into KAA under Options C and D. There are also a number of Crossfield kids east of Lawyers Road attending Carson and Oakton. In fact, the entire Crossfield boundary sits east of Fairfax County Parkway.

I think pro Oakton families should use the fact Crossfield is the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration. That would be a stronger argument than “rooted in Oakton.”

There are STILL five high schools now that are closer to our homes than Oakton. FIVE.

There is no way to do the boundaries where you don't get stupid stuff like this unless you scrap all the schools (not boundaries but actual school locations) and start again. FCPS is old, the county has changed massively since it was founded. The older high schools were built, purposefully, near population centers when a lot of the county was still farmland. Then they over built schools relative to our current population because of the baby boom. And then as the land in Fairfax got scarce, they built them wherever they could. This is all compounded by the fact that they added middle schools (switching from a 1-7 and 8-12 system) AND racially integrated in the same year in 1960 resulting in the completely wrong mix of buildings and locations.

This particular school board is massively incompetent but the absolute best board would still have to make decisions that feel wrong and weird. There are four closer middle schools to the one we are zoned for. But there are middle schools right on top of each other and edges of the county where you are 25 minutes away from ANY middle school. You can't draw lines and fix that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the eastern side of Crossfield’s boundary is actually quite far from the new school?

Crossfield is probably the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration from KAA.

The eastern side of Crossfield goes to Hughes/South Lakes.

That's only a small pocket and even that pocket would feed into KAA under Options C and D. There are also a number of Crossfield kids east of Lawyers Road attending Carson and Oakton. In fact, the entire Crossfield boundary sits east of Fairfax County Parkway.

I think pro Oakton families should use the fact Crossfield is the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration. That would be a stronger argument than “rooted in Oakton.”

There are STILL five high schools now that are closer to our homes than Oakton. FIVE.

There is no way to do the boundaries where you don't get stupid stuff like this unless you scrap all the schools (not boundaries but actual school locations) and start again. FCPS is old, the county has changed massively since it was founded. The older high schools were built, purposefully, near population centers when a lot of the county was still farmland. Then they over built schools relative to our current population because of the baby boom. And then as the land in Fairfax got scarce, they built them wherever they could. This is all compounded by the fact that they added middle schools (switching from a 1-7 and 8-12 system) AND racially integrated in the same year in 1960 resulting in the completely wrong mix of buildings and locations.

This particular school board is massively incompetent but the absolute best board would still have to make decisions that feel wrong and weird. There are four closer middle schools to the one we are zoned for. But there are middle schools right on top of each other and edges of the county where you are 25 minutes away from ANY middle school. You can't draw lines and fix that.

This is a great point…even removing the neighborhoods currently at Crossfield from the equation, Oakton’s boundaries are all over the place and heavily shifted west in comparison to any other school. Looking at a map the comparison is drastic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the eastern side of Crossfield’s boundary is actually quite far from the new school?

Crossfield is probably the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration from KAA.

The eastern side of Crossfield goes to Hughes/South Lakes.

That's only a small pocket and even that pocket would feed into KAA under Options C and D. There are also a number of Crossfield kids east of Lawyers Road attending Carson and Oakton. In fact, the entire Crossfield boundary sits east of Fairfax County Parkway.

I think pro Oakton families should use the fact Crossfield is the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration. That would be a stronger argument than “rooted in Oakton.”

There are STILL five high schools now that are closer to our homes than Oakton. FIVE.

There is no way to do the boundaries where you don't get stupid stuff like this unless you scrap all the schools (not boundaries but actual school locations) and start again. FCPS is old, the county has changed massively since it was founded. The older high schools were built, purposefully, near population centers when a lot of the county was still farmland. Then they over built schools relative to our current population because of the baby boom. And then as the land in Fairfax got scarce, they built them wherever they could. This is all compounded by the fact that they added middle schools (switching from a 1-7 and 8-12 system) AND racially integrated in the same year in 1960 resulting in the completely wrong mix of buildings and locations.

This particular school board is massively incompetent but the absolute best board would still have to make decisions that feel wrong and weird. There are four closer middle schools to the one we are zoned for. But there are middle schools right on top of each other and edges of the county where you are 25 minutes away from ANY middle school. You can't draw lines and fix that.

This is a great point…even removing the neighborhoods currently at Crossfield from the equation, Oakton’s boundaries are all over the place and heavily shifted west in comparison to any other school. Looking at a map the comparison is drastic.

Which they sort of have to be because it's 10 minutes or less to Madison, Fairfax and Woodson. Is it ideal? Of course not. But it's not fixable in the short term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do these entitled Oakton and Langley people think they deserve a menu of options and they can select their favorite? We are zoned for a mediocre school. No one is giving our kids an option to go somewhere else. It is what it is.

Why is there a demand to live in some locations more so than others?

I can't possibly think why that might be!

I bet a your local real estate agent can explain it?

Ha, yep. That prior poster whines incessantly about schools that are ranked higher than hers. It’s a clear inferiority complex, and for her, misery loves company.

DP. I'm sorry, but you people are so over the top annoying that I hope you get rezoned just to give you some humility. And to be blunt, your location sucks! I skipped right over it when buying a house. The schools are far away, shopping is far away, entertainment and activities are far away, commuter access is far away. I guess I can see why you are clinging to school rankings as the only thing you have going for you.

Fair Oaks mall, costco, whole foods are all 10 min away from crossfield. Reston Town center is maybe 15.

I mean if your driving to tysons 2 to shop then sure it's a bit of a drive.

It's got to be a 40-60 minute bus ride on the Fairfax Connector!

I'm not in Crossfield, but Franklin Farm shopping center is in Franklin Farm.
Go figure.
Fox Mill Shopping Center is very close to Crossfield Elem. School.
Greenbriar Shopping Center is also close to Franklin Farm.

Cannot speak about Great Falls--but I think there is lots of shopping in nearby Sterling, Herndon, and Reston for the western portion. LOTS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the eastern side of Crossfield’s boundary is actually quite far from the new school?

Crossfield is probably the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration from KAA.

The eastern side of Crossfield goes to Hughes/South Lakes.

That's only a small pocket and even that pocket would feed into KAA under Options C and D. There are also a number of Crossfield kids east of Lawyers Road attending Carson and Oakton. In fact, the entire Crossfield boundary sits east of Fairfax County Parkway.

I think pro Oakton families should use the fact Crossfield is the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration. That would be a stronger argument than “rooted in Oakton.”

There are STILL five high schools now that are closer to our homes than Oakton. FIVE.

There is no way to do the boundaries where you don't get stupid stuff like this unless you scrap all the schools (not boundaries but actual school locations) and start again. FCPS is old, the county has changed massively since it was founded. The older high schools were built, purposefully, near population centers when a lot of the county was still farmland. Then they over built schools relative to our current population because of the baby boom. And then as the land in Fairfax got scarce, they built them wherever they could. This is all compounded by the fact that they added middle schools (switching from a 1-7 and 8-12 system) AND racially integrated in the same year in 1960 resulting in the completely wrong mix of buildings and locations.

This particular school board is massively incompetent but the absolute best board would still have to make decisions that feel wrong and weird. There are four closer middle schools to the one we are zoned for. But there are middle schools right on top of each other and edges of the county where you are 25 minutes away from ANY middle school. You can't draw lines and fix that.

This is a great point…even removing the neighborhoods currently at Crossfield from the equation, Oakton’s boundaries are all over the place and heavily shifted west in comparison to any other school. Looking at a map the comparison is drastic.

Which they sort of have to be because it's 10 minutes or less to Madison, Fairfax and Woodson. Is it ideal? Of course not. But it's not fixable in the short term.

Great perspective! Brilliant mind!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the eastern side of Crossfield’s boundary is actually quite far from the new school?

Crossfield is probably the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration from KAA.

The eastern side of Crossfield goes to Hughes/South Lakes.

That's only a small pocket and even that pocket would feed into KAA under Options C and D. There are also a number of Crossfield kids east of Lawyers Road attending Carson and Oakton. In fact, the entire Crossfield boundary sits east of Fairfax County Parkway.

I think pro Oakton families should use the fact Crossfield is the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration. That would be a stronger argument than “rooted in Oakton.”

There are STILL five high schools now that are closer to our homes than Oakton. FIVE.

There is no way to do the boundaries where you don't get stupid stuff like this unless you scrap all the schools (not boundaries but actual school locations) and start again. FCPS is old, the county has changed massively since it was founded. The older high schools were built, purposefully, near population centers when a lot of the county was still farmland. Then they over built schools relative to our current population because of the baby boom. And then as the land in Fairfax got scarce, they built them wherever they could. This is all compounded by the fact that they added middle schools (switching from a 1-7 and 8-12 system) AND racially integrated in the same year in 1960 resulting in the completely wrong mix of buildings and locations.

This particular school board is massively incompetent but the absolute best board would still have to make decisions that feel wrong and weird. There are four closer middle schools to the one we are zoned for. But there are middle schools right on top of each other and edges of the county where you are 25 minutes away from ANY middle school. You can't draw lines and fix that.

This is a great point…even removing the neighborhoods currently at Crossfield from the equation, Oakton’s boundaries are all over the place and heavily shifted west in comparison to any other school. Looking at a map the comparison is drastic.

Which they sort of have to be because it's 10 minutes or less to Madison, Fairfax and Woodson. Is it ideal? Of course not. But it's not fixable in the short term.

And, an extremely large development is going up soon within its boundaries. And, Oakton is approaching capacity at present. Frisch brought this up at one of the meetings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the eastern side of Crossfield’s boundary is actually quite far from the new school?

Crossfield is probably the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration from KAA.

The eastern side of Crossfield goes to Hughes/South Lakes.

That's only a small pocket and even that pocket would feed into KAA under Options C and D. There are also a number of Crossfield kids east of Lawyers Road attending Carson and Oakton. In fact, the entire Crossfield boundary sits east of Fairfax County Parkway.

I think pro Oakton families should use the fact Crossfield is the farthest of all the elementary schools under consideration. That would be a stronger argument than “rooted in Oakton.”

There are STILL five high schools now that are closer to our homes than Oakton. FIVE.

There is no way to do the boundaries where you don't get stupid stuff like this unless you scrap all the schools (not boundaries but actual school locations) and start again. FCPS is old, the county has changed massively since it was founded. The older high schools were built, purposefully, near population centers when a lot of the county was still farmland. Then they over built schools relative to our current population because of the baby boom. And then as the land in Fairfax got scarce, they built them wherever they could. This is all compounded by the fact that they added middle schools (switching from a 1-7 and 8-12 system) AND racially integrated in the same year in 1960 resulting in the completely wrong mix of buildings and locations.

This particular school board is massively incompetent but the absolute best board would still have to make decisions that feel wrong and weird. There are four closer middle schools to the one we are zoned for. But there are middle schools right on top of each other and edges of the county where you are 25 minutes away from ANY middle school. You can't draw lines and fix that.

This is a great point…even removing the neighborhoods currently at Crossfield from the equation, Oakton’s boundaries are all over the place and heavily shifted west in comparison to any other school. Looking at a map the comparison is drastic.

Which they sort of have to be because it's 10 minutes or less to Madison, Fairfax and Woodson. Is it ideal? Of course not. But it's not fixable in the short term.

And, an extremely large development is going up soon within its boundaries. And, Oakton is approaching capacity at present. Frisch brought this up at one of the meetings.

Frisch is getting a kickback on the ATT site which is why he's so adamant it's a done deal.

I don't have a dog in the redistricting fight thankfully. Every community should advocate for what they think is best. But the result will be partially stupid no matter what, in part because of the unchangeable starting point and in part because these people are not good at their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do these entitled Oakton and Langley people think they deserve a menu of options and they can select their favorite? We are zoned for a mediocre school. No one is giving our kids an option to go somewhere else. It is what it is.

Why is there a demand to live in some locations more so than others?

I can't possibly think why that might be!

I bet a your local real estate agent can explain it?

Ha, yep. That prior poster whines incessantly about schools that are ranked higher than hers. It’s a clear inferiority complex, and for her, misery loves company.

DP. I'm sorry, but you people are so over the top annoying that I hope you get rezoned just to give you some humility. And to be blunt, your location sucks! I skipped right over it when buying a house. The schools are far away, shopping is far away, entertainment and activities are far away, commuter access is far away. I guess I can see why you are clinging to school rankings as the only thing you have going for you.

How will I ever survive living in all of this peace and tranquility instead of dealing with neighborhoods on top of each other?

But seriously, glad you didn’t make a choice that wasn’t right for you. We made a choice that was right for us, and of course love our neighborhood and community schools.