Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?

Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.

There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.

I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.

Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.

I 100% agree with you. There are a subset of People who voted for Trump bc he ran on messages of ending foreign wars and affordability. His record will be easy pickings and those issues AOC issues should be able to easily pick up.

I cannot see anyone who was a Trump voter flipping to an AOC voter in 2028. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread. Are all these AOC proponents bots, because I just can’t conceive of her being a viable national candidate in 3 years.

You don’t know that people voted for both AOC and Trump in the last election? Keep up before you spout off

The only people that have actually ever voted for AOC are in 1 liberal congressional district in NYC. AOCs opponent in 2024 got 31% of the vote and Trump got 33% of the vote, which doesn’t suggest there are meaningful numbers of voters that cast a ballot for both Trump and AOC, and certainly not enough that would make her a good candidate on a national level to flip enough Trump voters in swing states to win.

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Focus on keeping fair elections happening.

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I hope none of the same, boring menu of options. Someone with new energy and ideas who can energize the country out of this mess please..

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?

Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.

There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.

I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.

Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.

I 100% agree with you. There are a subset of People who voted for Trump bc he ran on messages of ending foreign wars and affordability. His record will be easy pickings and those issues AOC issues should be able to easily pick up.

Trump ran on these issues and is a white man who people believe is great at business.

Do they??

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Anonymous wrote:AOC is a bartender, Whitmer just hid her face behind a binder at the White House like a child and French Laundry is so CA slicked back hair cringe.

I'll be interested to hear who the ors are?

AOC has a degree in international relations and economics from Boston University.

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So what? Does anybody hold Trump responsible for his niece Mary's behavior?

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Anonymous wrote:AOC is a bartender, Whitmer just hid her face behind a binder at the White House like a child and French Laundry is so CA slicked back hair cringe.

I'll be interested to hear who the ors are?

AOC has a degree in international relations and economics from Boston University.

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People act like she’s a lightweight, but she actually attended the same institutions as folks like Howard Stern and Tipper Gore

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AOC has no chance of winning

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So what? Does anybody hold Trump responsible for his niece Mary's behavior?

Who the hell cares? Jennifer Pritzker also served in the Illinois National Guard and founded a military museum and library.
Is her military service canceled out by her gender? If you think it should be then that is a you problem.

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Anonymous wrote:AOC is a bartender, Whitmer just hid her face behind a binder at the White House like a child and French Laundry is so CA slicked back hair cringe.

I'll be interested to hear who the ors are?

AOC has a degree in international relations and economics from Boston University.

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People act like she’s a lightweight, but she actually attended the same institutions as folks like Howard Stern and Tipper Gore

Oh, shut up. PP said she was a “bartender”. You’re moving the goalpost to troll. Now you’re putting her down because she isn’t a nepo admit to an “elitist” school like so many politicans.

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So what? Does anybody hold Trump responsible for his niece Mary's behavior?

Who the hell cares? Jennifer Pritzker also served in the Illinois National Guard and founded a military museum and library.
Is her military service canceled out by her gender? If you think it should be then that is a you problem.

She has a monetary reason for pushing that agenda. It's all about money. Don't excuse her because she was in the military.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?

I'm listening to her book and she should not have published it. She comes across as obsessed with celebrities, like she treats her role as though she's an actor playing a part, bitter about Joe Biden and his staff, and worried about being overshadowed. She all but said that she picked Tim Walz because he was the weakest candidate ("I had 99 problems and a Vice President couldn't be one..." damn Kamala, did you really just liken your running mate to b-tch?). She complained that Trump had a bandage on after he was "nicked by a bullet." She really comes across quite badly.

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Trump has never beaten a white man and not clear MAGA support will move to another candidate. No more women for the love of God. No Kamala, AOC, whitmer. I think Andy beshear would be perfect. I also think Newsome could beat a black hole of charisma like JD Vance.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?

I'm listening to her book and she should not have published it. She comes across as obsessed with celebrities, like she treats her role as though she's an actor playing a part, bitter about Joe Biden and his staff, and worried about being overshadowed. She all but said that she picked Tim Walz because he was the weakest candidate ("I had 99 problems and a Vice President couldn't be one..." damn Kamala, did you really just liken your running mate to b-tch?). She complained that Trump had a bandage on after he was "nicked by a bullet." She really comes across quite badly.

Quite the interpretation. She didn’t think Walz was weak. He was safe. And that mattered because unfortunately, too many Americans were going to have a hard enough time with a woman, and a person of color, being on the ticket. So she didn’t feel free to pick just based on her own preference. She had to make a strategic choice. As all presidential nominees do. Sometimes it’s what state they’re from, sometimes it’s their ability to appeal to the most people possible.

People running for office ARE playing a part. Do you understand anything about the point of campaigning at all?

Trump has zero visible cartilage damage to his ear. Cartilage doesn’t grow back. He totally milked that for attention and as a campaign strategy.