Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?


Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.


There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.
I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.


Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.

I’ve been hearing for years that the Republicans will be loathed, etc. yet here we are with Trump 2.0. The answer is not trotting out a young, female democratic socialist from NYC with no foreign policy chops in a national election. Honestly, the party machine should force her to take on Schumer or Gillibrand to see if she could even win a statewide election in NY before pumping her up as a presidential candidate. It’s like the Democrats want to keep losing on the national stage.
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Anonymous wrote:There are little clusters of Democrats in this country, & most of you live in one of these clusters. If you get away from these clusters, you will find that what you guys call facism, the rest of the country calls repairing the damage that Democrat administrations have caused. High crime, bad schools, rampant illegal immigration, homelessness—these are the legacy of Democrat policies, and everybody knows it.


No, it’s fascism, thanks for trying, though.


You omitted.your other two favorite words...misogyny amd racism.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?


Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.


There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.
I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.


Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.

I’ve been hearing for years that the Republicans will be loathed, etc. yet here we are with Trump 2.0. The answer is not trotting out a young, female democratic socialist from NYC with no foreign policy chops in a national election. Honestly, the party machine should force her to take on Schumer or Gillibrand to see if she could even win a statewide election in NY before pumping her up as a presidential candidate. It’s like the Democrats want to keep losing on the national stage.


Democrats have had trouble reading the electorate. They project too much of themselves onto others. Many independents may have voted for Trump (and before that Biden) as a means of trying to get attention. Their vote wasnt so much for trump 2.0 as much as telling Dems to pay attention and not lip service to them.
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Democrats have no one.
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Newsome gets my vote. AOC as VP. The Democrats have to move as far to the left as they can. And scoop up the working class voters whom the Dems abandoned. The magas won't stick with their dear leader when it finally dawns on them that he lied and lied and lied to them and only wants to use them and screw them. The center is filled with corporate suck-ups, but the far left will give the working class what they really need.
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Anonymous wrote:Newsome gets my vote. AOC as VP. The Democrats have to move as far to the left as they can. And scoop up the working class voters whom the Dems abandoned. The magas won't stick with their dear leader when it finally dawns on them that he lied and lied and lied to them and only wants to use them and screw them. The center is filled with corporate suck-ups, but the far left will give the working class what they really need.

The working class voters the Dems abandoned also skew more socially conservative so I’m not sure how running to the far left helps with that. Running to pander to the far left is a sure way to lose a national election. The far left isn’t going to flip Arizona, Michigan, Ohio, NC.
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Does AOC have a foreign policy plan? I’ve only heard AOC talk domestically. I’ve missed what she has to say about how to handle foreign relations.
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1. Ohio doesn’t matter.

2. Here we are with Trump 2.0 but lots of people who voted for him a year ago did not like him. And now the polling seems pretty clear. People really think he sucks at this.

These are new times. Kids born in 2010 will be voting for potus. Maybe aoc does actually have a shot.
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Anonymous wrote:Does AOC have a foreign policy plan? I’ve only heard AOC talk domestically. I’ve missed what she has to say about how to handle foreign relations.


As it almost always is, it will be about the economy.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?


Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.


There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.
I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.


Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.


I 100% agree with you. There are a subset of People who voted for Trump bc he ran on messages of ending foreign wars and affordability. His record will be easy pickings and those issues AOC issues should be able to easily pick up.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?


Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.


There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.
I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.


Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.


I 100% agree with you. There are a subset of People who voted for Trump bc he ran on messages of ending foreign wars and affordability. His record will be easy pickings and those issues AOC issues should be able to easily pick up.


Trump ran on these issues and is a white man who people believe is great at business.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?


Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.


There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.
I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.


Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.


I 100% agree with you. There are a subset of People who voted for Trump bc he ran on messages of ending foreign wars and affordability. His record will be easy pickings and those issues AOC issues should be able to easily pick up.

I cannot see anyone who was a Trump voter flipping to an AOC voter in 2028. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread. Are all these AOC proponents bots, because I just can’t conceive of her being a viable national candidate in 3 years.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?


Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.


There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.
I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.


Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.


I 100% agree with you. There are a subset of People who voted for Trump bc he ran on messages of ending foreign wars and affordability. His record will be easy pickings and those issues AOC issues should be able to easily pick up.

I cannot see anyone who was a Trump voter flipping to an AOC voter in 2028. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread. Are all these AOC proponents bots, because I just can’t conceive of her being a viable national candidate in 3 years.


You don’t know that people voted for both AOC and Trump in the last election? Keep up before you spout off
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?


Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.


There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.
I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.


Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.


I 100% agree with you. There are a subset of People who voted for Trump bc he ran on messages of ending foreign wars and affordability. His record will be easy pickings and those issues AOC issues should be able to easily pick up.

I cannot see anyone who was a Trump voter flipping to an AOC voter in 2028. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread. Are all these AOC proponents bots, because I just can’t conceive of her being a viable national candidate in 3 years.


You don’t know that people voted for both AOC and Trump in the last election? Keep up before you spout off


Agree. People don’t see a lot of daylight between the two. They are two sides of the same coin. People want to even tbings out in their lives. They don’t like the big swings left and right but given no other options they choose course corrections.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, back to naming potential candidates at this point in time.

Will Harris run again? Is her book giving her some traction or is she cooked?


Harris is cooked. The field remains wide open. There are no favorites or front runners at present.

I don't expect much to happen until after midterms, but I will be watching AOC. She has her committee and is deciding whether to run for Senate or President. She would start off strong. She'll get the Sanders voters and she will get a lot of the youth vote. Democrats are going to have to coalesce around someone else early if they want to stop her. Having 6-12 candidates going deep into the primaries would work in AOC's favor.

I think Newsom gets wrecked by AOC if he's the alternative. So Democrats should probably find a midwesterner or southerner. I think AOC is going to be a juggernaut if she decides to run. Her charisma, authenticity, and her online game is on point. She will be tough to beat in this climate. People are pissed - both at the GOP and establishment Democrats. Some kind of "rebel" candidate is appealing for many voters. And after 12 years of 80+ geriatrics in the White House, her youth actually works in her favor. It's not a liability. When it comes to the nomination, she looks strong right now.


There is no way AOC will get the majority of American voters to cast their votes for her.
I think she will make it to the end of the primaries.

I don’t disagree but she is not a viable national candidate. Winning the most liberal states, as we have seen, is not enough in a presidential election. She needs to be able to connect with voters in purple states and I just don’t see it. She’s a NYC liberal with some far left rhetoric and policies (that I know she has tried to tone down as of late) that will not play in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona.


Sure, but if AOC runs she is going to get 20/30 percent of the vote in every single primary and caucus, whether Iowa, NH, SC, Nevada and so on. If there are ten other candidates splitting the remaining vote, AOC will be leading the delegate count very quickly for the Democratic nomination. She will certainly have the money and the staff to make it to the end. If Democrats don't coalesce around a viable alternative to AOC by Super Tuesday, then I think the nomination is hers as she then racks up big wins in California, NY, etc and takes those delegate hauls.

Can she win the general? Conventional wisdom says no. But these are weird times. Americans will be sick and tired of old men running the show. Vance is cringe and unappealing. Republicans will be broadly unpopular and mostly loathed. Rural conservative boomers are dying every day. Younger people and Hispanics who voted for Trump are once again repelled by Republicans. I don't think anything is predictable today.

But I do believe AOC is far stronger than people in DC think. Being the anti-establishment candidate is a huge plus in this environment.


I 100% agree with you. There are a subset of People who voted for Trump bc he ran on messages of ending foreign wars and affordability. His record will be easy pickings and those issues AOC issues should be able to easily pick up.

I cannot see anyone who was a Trump voter flipping to an AOC voter in 2028. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread. Are all these AOC proponents bots, because I just can’t conceive of her being a viable national candidate in 3 years.


She's not, but a lot of people live in a serious bubble. If you've never lived in a red state, maybe don't assume you can read the room here.
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