More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

This is also dishonest because this policy does force people to leave there homes by increasing the assessed value of property to the point that many can no longer afford to pay the property taxes. You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

Could you provide an example of a Soviet style apartment complex in Montgomery County, please? Since the Planning Department keeps trying to force everyone into them, there must be at least one such building in Montgomery County. But where? I haven't seen any. What haven't I seen?

One of the things that has been in little dispute, even within Planning, was that the architectural and aesthetic quality of high-rise and multi-family dwellings in the county has traditionally been very poor. You seem to be someone who just argues out of ignorance just for the sake of arguing.

The poster who said

You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

is commenting about aesthetic/architectural quality? How about that.

Have you seen the aesthetic/architectural quality of the houses in the University Boulevard corridor? It's cookie cutter, mass-produced, tract housing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

There is absolutely everything wrong with mass-produced tract apartments housing. It destroys the American dream by creating a nation of renters and landed gentry. Policies that push people to live in low-quality apartments complexes will cause the middle class to lose opportunities to establish generational wealth and financial stability.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

This is also dishonest because this policy does force people to leave there homes by increasing the assessed value of property to the point that many can no longer afford to pay the property taxes. You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

Could you provide an example of a Soviet style apartment complex in Montgomery County, please? Since the Planning Department keeps trying to force everyone into them, there must be at least one such building in Montgomery County. But where? I haven't seen any. What haven't I seen?

One of the things that has been in little dispute, even within Planning, was that the architectural and aesthetic quality of high-rise and multi-family dwellings in the county has traditionally been very poor. You seem to be someone who just argues out of ignorance just for the sake of arguing.

The poster who said

You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

is commenting about aesthetic/architectural quality? How about that.

Have you seen the aesthetic/architectural quality of the houses in the University Boulevard corridor? It's cookie cutter, mass-produced, tract housing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Guess what? It's 2024, we build things differently than we did in 1890. People said the same thing about the brownstones in NYC when they were built. Get over it.

Whom are you arguing with? Go argue with the people who live in 1950s/1960s tract housing but complain that five-over-ones are boring and ugly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

This is also dishonest because this policy does force people to leave there homes by increasing the assessed value of property to the point that many can no longer afford to pay the property taxes. You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

Could you provide an example of a Soviet style apartment complex in Montgomery County, please? Since the Planning Department keeps trying to force everyone into them, there must be at least one such building in Montgomery County. But where? I haven't seen any. What haven't I seen?

One of the things that has been in little dispute, even within Planning, was that the architectural and aesthetic quality of high-rise and multi-family dwellings in the county has traditionally been very poor. You seem to be someone who just argues out of ignorance just for the sake of arguing.

The poster who said

You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

is commenting about aesthetic/architectural quality? How about that.

Have you seen the aesthetic/architectural quality of the houses in the University Boulevard corridor? It's cookie cutter, mass-produced, tract housing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

There is absolutely everything wrong with mass-produced tract apartments housing. It destroys the American dream by creating a nation of renters and landed gentry. Policies that push people to live in low-quality apartments complexes will cause the middle class to lose opportunities to establish generational wealth and financial stability.

So to be clear:

mass-produced tract houses inhabited by landed gentry are good
mass-produced tract apartment buildings inhabited by renters are bad

Is that what you're saying, yes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

Weird, because Trump is the one supporting the "suburbs" and rails agains the "urban youth".

I think you need to realize who is on your side lol.

Can you not even grasp the most simple of arguments?

I used an analogy that a middle schooler would understand to display how bad your argument is and you can’t even wrap your head around this?

You should really face reality, there are probably a lot of reasons that you aren’t able to buy a house, and very few are related to policy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

This is also dishonest because this policy does force people to leave there homes by increasing the assessed value of property to the point that many can no longer afford to pay the property taxes. You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

Could you provide an example of a Soviet style apartment complex in Montgomery County, please? Since the Planning Department keeps trying to force everyone into them, there must be at least one such building in Montgomery County. But where? I haven't seen any. What haven't I seen?

One of the things that has been in little dispute, even within Planning, was that the architectural and aesthetic quality of high-rise and multi-family dwellings in the county has traditionally been very poor. You seem to be someone who just argues out of ignorance just for the sake of arguing.

The poster who said

You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

is commenting about aesthetic/architectural quality? How about that.

Have you seen the aesthetic/architectural quality of the houses in the University Boulevard corridor? It's cookie cutter, mass-produced, tract housing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

There is absolutely everything wrong with mass-produced tract apartments housing. It destroys the American dream by creating a nation of renters and landed gentry. Policies that push people to live in low-quality apartments complexes will cause the middle class to lose opportunities to establish generational wealth and financial stability.

So to be clear:

mass-produced tract houses inhabited by landed gentry are good
mass-produced tract apartment buildings inhabited by renters are bad

Is that what you're saying, yes?

Lol "landed gentry"? What freaking century are you living in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

This is also dishonest because this policy does force people to leave there homes by increasing the assessed value of property to the point that many can no longer afford to pay the property taxes. You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

Could you provide an example of a Soviet style apartment complex in Montgomery County, please? Since the Planning Department keeps trying to force everyone into them, there must be at least one such building in Montgomery County. But where? I haven't seen any. What haven't I seen?

One of the things that has been in little dispute, even within Planning, was that the architectural and aesthetic quality of high-rise and multi-family dwellings in the county has traditionally been very poor. You seem to be someone who just argues out of ignorance just for the sake of arguing.

The poster who said

You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

is commenting about aesthetic/architectural quality? How about that.

Have you seen the aesthetic/architectural quality of the houses in the University Boulevard corridor? It's cookie cutter, mass-produced, tract housing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

There is absolutely everything wrong with mass-produced tract apartments housing. It destroys the American dream by creating a nation of renters and landed gentry. Policies that push people to live in low-quality apartments complexes will cause the middle class to lose opportunities to establish generational wealth and financial stability.

So to be clear:

mass-produced tract houses inhabited by landed gentry are good
mass-produced tract apartment buildings inhabited by renters are bad

Is that what you're saying, yes?

Lol "landed gentry"? What freaking century are you living in?

That PPP had internet poisoning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

Weird, because Trump is the one supporting the "suburbs" and rails agains the "urban youth".

I think you need to realize who is on your side lol.

Can you not even grasp the most simple of arguments?

I used an analogy that a middle schooler would understand to display how bad your argument is and you can’t even wrap your head around this?

You should really face reality, there are probably a lot of reasons that you aren’t able to buy a house, and very few are related to policy.

Most of the reasons people cannot afford to buy houses is their own lifestyle choices. There are many places in the country with low unemployment and affordable, market rate housing. If instead you want to live in Manhattan, then expect to never own and lay high rent for a small apartment the rest of your life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

Weird, because Trump is the one supporting the "suburbs" and rails agains the "urban youth".

I think you need to realize who is on your side lol.

Can you not even grasp the most simple of arguments?

I used an analogy that a middle schooler would understand to display how bad your argument is and you can’t even wrap your head around this?

You should really face reality, there are probably a lot of reasons that you aren’t able to buy a house, and very few are related to policy.

Most of the reasons people cannot afford to buy houses is their own lifestyle choices. There are many places in the country with low unemployment and affordable, market rate housing. If instead you want to live in Manhattan, then expect to never own and lay high rent for a small apartment the rest of your life.

This is the We Shouldn't Build More Housing, You Should Go Live Somewhere Else! argument, with This Is Not Manhattan! thrown in for lagniappe.

-a person who actually owns a house and also supports policies to build more housing and more housing types in Montgomery County

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

Weird, because Trump is the one supporting the "suburbs" and rails agains the "urban youth".

I think you need to realize who is on your side lol.

Can you not even grasp the most simple of arguments?

I used an analogy that a middle schooler would understand to display how bad your argument is and you can’t even wrap your head around this?

You should really face reality, there are probably a lot of reasons that you aren’t able to buy a house, and very few are related to policy.

Most of the reasons people cannot afford to buy houses is their own lifestyle choices. There are many places in the country with low unemployment and affordable, market rate housing. If instead you want to live in Manhattan, then expect to never own and lay high rent for a small apartment the rest of your life.

This is the We Shouldn't Build More Housing, You Should Go Live Somewhere Else! argument, with This Is Not Manhattan! thrown in for lagniappe.

-a person who actually owns a house and also supports policies to build more housing and more housing types in Montgomery County

No. This is the stop being an entitled brat, grow up and be an adult argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

Weird, because Trump is the one supporting the "suburbs" and rails agains the "urban youth".

I think you need to realize who is on your side lol.

Can you not even grasp the most simple of arguments?

I used an analogy that a middle schooler would understand to display how bad your argument is and you can’t even wrap your head around this?

You should really face reality, there are probably a lot of reasons that you aren’t able to buy a house, and very few are related to policy.

Most of the reasons people cannot afford to buy houses is their own lifestyle choices. There are many places in the country with low unemployment and affordable, market rate housing. If instead you want to live in Manhattan, then expect to never own and lay high rent for a small apartment the rest of your life.

This is the We Shouldn't Build More Housing, You Should Go Live Somewhere Else! argument, with This Is Not Manhattan! thrown in for lagniappe.

-a person who actually owns a house and also supports policies to build more housing and more housing types in Montgomery County

No. This is the stop being an entitled brat, grow up and be an adult argument.

I'm the PP you're responding to. I've been a homeowner in Montgomery County for 25 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you NIMBYs sure do like complaining (and seem to think most people agree with you, for some reason?)

You all keep yappin' about "community engagement" and "letting your voice be heard". Well guess what, we did all that! It was called the elections. And they have consequences. Get over it, the state is moving forward.

If you wanna live in a farm, go buy a farm lol.

So just lay back and enjoy it?

Was this your advice during Trump’s years in office?

This is also dishonest because this policy does force people to leave there homes by increasing the assessed value of property to the point that many can no longer afford to pay the property taxes. You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

Could you provide an example of a Soviet style apartment complex in Montgomery County, please? Since the Planning Department keeps trying to force everyone into them, there must be at least one such building in Montgomery County. But where? I haven't seen any. What haven't I seen?

One of the things that has been in little dispute, even within Planning, was that the architectural and aesthetic quality of high-rise and multi-family dwellings in the county has traditionally been very poor. You seem to be someone who just argues out of ignorance just for the sake of arguing.

The poster who said

You guys are absolutely try to force people to leave their homes by making the property taxes unaffordable, so don’t lie about your motives to force everyone to live in “environmentally friendly” Soviet style apartment complexes.

is commenting about aesthetic/architectural quality? How about that.

Have you seen the aesthetic/architectural quality of the houses in the University Boulevard corridor? It's cookie cutter, mass-produced, tract housing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

There is absolutely everything wrong with mass-produced tract apartments housing. It destroys the American dream by creating a nation of renters and landed gentry. Policies that push people to live in low-quality apartments complexes will cause the middle class to lose opportunities to establish generational wealth and financial stability.

There's a bit of a tension in homes being a source of wealth as well as homeownership expanding. Like where is that wealth going to buy your home going to come from? People without homes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.

Post your address. They can build it all in your yard.

TIA!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.

Post your address. They can build it all in your yard.

TIA!

Turning your house into a multiplex is a good retirement plan.

[Anonymous]

Seems to me this whole idea of reducing traffic deaths is a smokescreen. Because what kind of person does not want that, right? The bottom line is the developers 'plan' to make as much profit as possible. Again, nothing wrong with that, right? And if those profits come from destroying anything in its way, then so be it. We have seen this 'profit over all' in many forms, all over the world. Think child labor, cutting down the amazon forest, shipping our garbage to poor countries, removing native people from their lands, ect ect.
The profiteers are engaging in creative writing. They have plenty of funds to hire professionals who are good at that.
The pp who wrote this is just the beginning of a chaotic plan is absolutely right. The complete reduction of quality of life wont happen immediately but the long term view is this will not be to anyones benefit except for those at the very very tippy-top of society. That is not me. Nor is it the progressives who are expecting fairness & getting their share due to these Zero goals & restructuring communities ideas.
Communism is what thats all about and may turn into Fascism eventually. The Equity goal we hear about continually means lowering all standards of living so we are equal not raising it for everyone
and Yep, to those who are ready to say I am untrusting & pessimistic but I can read between the lines and translate the doublespeak being spouted by anyone claiming they are only looking out for our own good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems to me this whole idea of reducing traffic deaths is a smokescreen. Because what kind of person does not want that, right? The bottom line is the developers 'plan' to make as much profit as possible. Again, nothing wrong with that, right? And if those profits come from destroying anything in its way, then so be it. We have seen this 'profit over all' in many forms, all over the world. Think child labor, cutting down the amazon forest, shipping our garbage to poor countries, removing native people from their lands, ect ect.
The profiteers are engaging in creative writing. They have plenty of funds to hire professionals who are good at that.
The pp who wrote this is just the beginning of a chaotic plan is absolutely right. The complete reduction of quality of life wont happen immediately but the long term view is this will not be to anyones benefit except for those at the very very tippy-top of society. That is not me. Nor is it the progressives who are expecting fairness & getting their share due to these Zero goals & restructuring communities ideas.
Communism is what thats all about and may turn into Fascism eventually. The Equity goal we hear about continually means lowering all standards of living so we are equal not raising it for everyone
and Yep, to those who are ready to say I am untrusting & pessimistic but I can read between the lines and translate the doublespeak being spouted by anyone claiming they are only looking out for our own good.

I think we should pay attention to the commenter who explained that the plan is "make as much profit as possible" and that "communism is what thats all about." A+