More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.

The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.


This seems like a boondoggle in the making. Why do so many planners insist on making a single road all things to all people? How do you make a 6+ lane through-road a complete street and a vision zero street at the same time? University is a mess currently because its trying to do too much at once.

No one is going to want to walk/bike next to hundreds of cars going 35+.



How do you make a 6+ lane through-road into a complete street and vision zero street? Like this: https://highways.dot.gov/complete-streets

Plenty of people are currently, right now, walking/biking next to hundreds of cars going 35+ - with narrow sidewalks, uncomfortable public transportation stops, and dangerous crossings. As you say, University Boulevard is a through road. There aren't really any good alternatives. So that's why it needs to work for everybody.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.


and the reason is?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.

The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.


This seems like a boondoggle in the making. Why do so many planners insist on making a single road all things to all people? How do you make a 6+ lane through-road a complete street and a vision zero street at the same time? University is a mess currently because its trying to do too much at once.

No one is going to want to walk/bike next to hundreds of cars going 35+.



They will try to push this through and then do the same on Colesville and 500 feet in there will be duplexes and apartments, and all parking their cars in the street be air of recent MCC legislation. The schools in the area are crowded enough!

It’s sick.


Apartments! On University Boulevard! The horror!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.

The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.


This seems like a boondoggle in the making. Why do so many planners insist on making a single road all things to all people? How do you make a 6+ lane through-road a complete street and a vision zero street at the same time? University is a mess currently because its trying to do too much at once.

No one is going to want to walk/bike next to hundreds of cars going 35+.



They will try to push this through and then do the same on Colesville and 500 feet in there will be duplexes and apartments, and all parking their cars in the street be air of recent MCC legislation. The schools in the area are crowded enough!

It’s sick.


Don't you know that the planners are smarter than all of us? Let them tell you what's good for you!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.


and the reason is?


Because I like having space and not living on top of people. Let people who want to live in SFH do that in peace. Stop pretending you know what's best for everyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.

The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.


This seems like a boondoggle in the making. Why do so many planners insist on making a single road all things to all people? How do you make a 6+ lane through-road a complete street and a vision zero street at the same time? University is a mess currently because its trying to do too much at once.

No one is going to want to walk/bike next to hundreds of cars going 35+.



They will try to push this through and then do the same on Colesville and 500 feet in there will be duplexes and apartments, and all parking their cars in the street be air of recent MCC legislation. The schools in the area are crowded enough!

It’s sick.


Don't you know that the planners are smarter than all of us? Let them tell you what's good for you!


If only! Planners repeatedly told the county that much of this is useless (like the BRT center lane on Colesville), but they don’t care. These ideas are just pushing a political agenda at the expense of realistic options.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.


and the reason is?


Because I like having space and not living on top of people. Let people who want to live in SFH do that in peace. Stop pretending you know what's best for everyone.


Nobody is going to take your house away from you. You can stop worrying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The SS/Wheaton area is already terribly congested and overcrowded. Try driving down GA Ave at 7 PM, and compare it to driving down Old Gtown Rd at 7 PM. SS/Wheaton cannot handle more density.


It’s almost like that is the reason why mass transit is so essential! But then you guys block it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.

The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.


This seems like a boondoggle in the making. Why do so many planners insist on making a single road all things to all people? How do you make a 6+ lane through-road a complete street and a vision zero street at the same time? University is a mess currently because its trying to do too much at once.

No one is going to want to walk/bike next to hundreds of cars going 35+.



They will try to push this through and then do the same on Colesville and 500 feet in there will be duplexes and apartments, and all parking their cars in the street be air of recent MCC legislation. The schools in the area are crowded enough!

It’s sick.


Apartments! On University Boulevard! The horror!


Oh oh, the five vocal masochist YIMBY MoCo folks are here to repeatedly post to make it seem like they have lots of support.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.


and the reason is?


Because I like having space and not living on top of people. Let people who want to live in SFH do that in peace. Stop pretending you know what's best for everyone.


Nobody is going to take your house away from you. You can stop worrying.


No they'll just throw an apartment building up next to me
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.


You live inside the beltway because you don’t like city living? That was pretty dumb.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.


You live inside the beltway because you don’t like city living? That was pretty dumb.


Look at a map. This Corridor plan extends outside the Beltway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.


and the reason is?


Because I like having space and not living on top of people. Let people who want to live in SFH do that in peace. Stop pretending you know what's best for everyone.


Listen, FYI, it’s a complete waste of energy to engage the YIMBYs here (or anywhere), your time is much better spent making your thoughts known to the powers that be and sharing this information with your friends and neighbors and neighborhood associations. If the associations can then get together to consolidate their thoughts we can come up with a political and legal strategy.

If they can get this stopped in Arlington after the fact, we can get it stopped beforehand here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I’m a YIMBY. We need more housing.


Go move to a city then. I moved to the suburbs for a reason.


and the reason is?


Because I like having space and not living on top of people. Let people who want to live in SFH do that in peace. Stop pretending you know what's best for everyone.


Nobody is going to take your house away from you. You can stop worrying.


No they'll just throw an apartment building up next to me


Well, then you will have two choices. Choice 1: stay. Choice 2: sell and move somewhere else. I don't think the county's housing policy should be based on your desire to not live next to a building that has apartments.
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