3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



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But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.
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There are mentally ill people all over the world. Those in the USA have access to ar-15s. That’s the difference.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



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And do what? Put every depressed kid that someone is worried about in a mental institution or jail? Or maybe we get them help and make it much harder for them to get assault-style weapons.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



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But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


Shouldn’t we also deal with the mental illness part? Bring back the asylums.
Anonymous
I wonder if high testosterone played a factor. I have a cis male relative taking it who has become ultra aggressive/hostile and makes threats.
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Why haven’t they released the manifesto? What are they hiding?
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Anonymous wrote:Why haven’t they released the manifesto? What are they hiding?


I'd be concerned about copycats. So I can understand not wanting to release it.
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Anonymous wrote:There are mentally ill people all over the world. Those in the USA have access to ar-15s. That’s the difference.

Yes, this.
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Anonymous wrote:Why haven’t they released the manifesto? What are they hiding?

Who cares? What do we need the meaningless rambles of a murderer to be made public for? Jesus if you want to read crazy rambles…
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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun


1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.


Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.


That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.


It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.


Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.


Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.


I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.


IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.


And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.


Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.


More than 9800 people have been killed so far in 2023 in the US by guns. We're not even a quarter of the way through the year.

I noticed that you did NOT share the total annual number of deaths by knives in all of Asia (a continent much larger than the US). Why is that?


Because as a whole, Asian's don't kill each other at the same rate as other racial groups. This is true for Asian populations in Europe and the USA.


Dont be stupid. There are 330 million people in the US and about 420 million firearms (many being semi automatic assault rifles). If there were 2.5 billion assult rifles in China guaranteed there would be more deaths. The guy who murdered over 30 kids at Virginia Tech was Asian American, the son ir Korean immigrant. He was also mentally ill and in the US he was able to legally purchase war weapons that he could not have purchased in S. Korea.

IT’S THE F$ING GUNS



Nope, not the guns.

Indian Americans are more law abiding in the USA than they are in India. East Asians are approximately the same in both Asia and the USA. Culturally speaking, violence is rare.

It's fair to ask why more mass shooters are non-white, while mass shootings in a school setting trend white though. What is the difference in terms of psychology for those different groups in mass shooting events?



Statistically its always men so why don't we just not let men have guns then.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.


So if that is true then what should we do to prevent mentally unstable individuals from getting ahold of a gun?


It’s not possible to identify people who would murder others without infringing on someone else’s rights. The only solution is regulating guns and making it applicable to everyone. Bans assault rifles, require registration, etc.
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^ because if women were shooting up schools, they'd take the guns from us in a hot minute.
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if high testosterone played a factor. I have a cis male relative taking it who has become ultra aggressive/hostile and makes threats.


Do we know that he was taking testosterone?
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



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But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.
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