3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:So here we are, 85 pages in, and still nothing meaningful from Republicans to help curb these mass shootings.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Here is something meaningful. Mass shootings are not the problem. The real problem is shootings. The solution to the real problem is to prosecute the criminals. The carjackers, the shoplifters, those found in possession of illegal firearms. Those who use guns in the commission of a crime. Put them in jail. Prosecute them as adults even if they are teens.

(I would also be in favor of better efforts to keep guns away from the mentally ill but when I am in one of our nation’s cities I tend to worry more about there lax on criminal legal systems then the poor system for blocking mentally ill people from getting guns.)

Yes, shootings are a problem in the US. Let's make sure they don't get into the hands of criminals and mentally ill. Close the gun show loophole, background checks for buyers. Make firearm safety training mandatory. Get rid of guns and ammunition that can pulverize 10 children's skulls in a handful of seconds.

New Zealand did this. And it left guns in the hands of criminals. Funny that, they did not cooperate

New Zealand had **50** gun deaths in 2016. So the criminals may not have turned in the guns, but by and large they aren't using them to kill other people - and sure as hell arne't using them to kill school chlidren.

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Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

[Anonymous]

Release the manifesto/ we have a right to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

Nah. They just mow them down in the streets in cities like Chicago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

Most mass shooters are POC. Mass shootings defined as 4 or more people hit by gunfire. That community suffers an outsized portion of violence.

If we want to make comparisons, we need to make comparisons to counties with similar demographics. New Zeeland doesn't look like the USA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

Most mass shooters are POC. Mass shootings defined as 4 or more people hit by gunfire. That community suffers an outsized portion of violence.

If we want to make comparisons, we need to make comparisons to counties with similar demographics. New Zeeland doesn't look like the USA.

This is racist BS— you are saying Black people are inherently more likely to shoot people? Go to hell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

Most mass shooters are POC. Mass shootings defined as 4 or more people hit by gunfire. That community suffers an outsized portion of violence.

If we want to make comparisons, we need to make comparisons to counties with similar demographics. New Zeeland doesn't look like the USA.

This is racist BS— you are saying Black people are inherently more likely to shoot people? Go to hell

That's the play book. First they say you can't compare because the US is larger, but if you point out rates in the EU as a whole or look at per capita numbers, they fall back on 'different demographics.' Push enough and you get to pure racism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

that’s because the media ignores those shootings

There are 3 black juveniles - 2 of which were just arrested - 1 on the run - who executed 3 white teens outside Ocala FL a few days ago.
You probably won't see much about it on the news or in the press.
Yes, these are mass murders. None of them old enough to own a gun. But, as we know..... criminals will find guns if they want them.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/florida/2023/04/07/arrests-made-after-3-teens-shot-to-death-in-marion-county/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

Most mass shooters are POC. Mass shootings defined as 4 or more people hit by gunfire. That community suffers an outsized portion of violence.

If we want to make comparisons, we need to make comparisons to counties with similar demographics. New Zeeland doesn't look like the USA.

This is racist BS— you are saying Black people are inherently more likely to shoot people? Go to hell

I just showed you the data from the CDC. That's what the CDC is telling you.

Here's the graphic from the CDC's website.



Black and brown bodies both suffer from and commit higher rates of gun violence than white and asians. The rate is staggeringly different and as such it skews our numbers up considerably. The white gun violence rate is actually less than that of Norway and France, but higher than Europe as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

Most mass shooters are POC. Mass shootings defined as 4 or more people hit by gunfire. That community suffers an outsized portion of violence.

If we want to make comparisons, we need to make comparisons to counties with similar demographics. New Zeeland doesn't look like the USA.

This is racist BS— you are saying Black people are inherently more likely to shoot people? Go to hell

That's the play book. First they say you can't compare because the US is larger, but if you point out rates in the EU as a whole or look at per capita numbers, they fall back on 'different demographics.' Push enough and you get to pure racism

Even gun control organizations acknowledge that certain communities have disproportionate violence. It's a social justice issue.

Calling it racist doesn't solve the problem. As it is a social justice issue, we should recognize that these communities have needs that are unmet.

Here's Giffords:

https://everytownresearch.org/issue/gun-violence-black-americans/

Here's every town:

https://everytownresearch.org/issue/gun-violence-black-americans/

Here's Brady:

https://www.bradyunited.org/issue/gun-violence-is-a-racial-justice-issue

Here's the center for american progress:

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-overwhelmingly-hurts-communities-of-color/

The sad thing is that when these communities suffer mass shootings, they don't make national news. Are we to believe that this sort of thing should be normalized? Of course not.

[Anonymous]

https://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?httpsredir=1&article=1489&context=wmlr

Some believe that gun ownership is the cause of school shootings, but per capita gun ownership rates have been high throughout US history. In colonial times, upwards of 50-65% of all Americans owned and maintained a useable firearm in their private homes as discussed in the above link.

Yet school shootings were extremely rare to nonexistent until the 1980s. It's obviously not the availability of guns that is the cause for the recent rise in school shootings; it's social alienation and the corrosion of any feelings of community, which are ultimately driven by disintegrating social trust, and a ruling class that has become antagonistic toward those they rule over.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/collapsing-levels-trust-are-devastating-america/616581/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our population is 334 million.
New Zealand’s population is 5 million.

So the US had ten times the rate of gun deaths per capita in 2020 than New Zealand had in 2016.

Different demographics

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7042a6.htm

Black males have a rate of 34x that of white males per 100k. Those stats serious skew our stats upwards.

I don't see many black mass murderers shooting kids in schools.

Most mass shooters are POC. Mass shootings defined as 4 or more people hit by gunfire. That community suffers an outsized portion of violence.

If we want to make comparisons, we need to make comparisons to counties with similar demographics. New Zeeland doesn't look like the USA.

This is racist BS— you are saying Black people are inherently more likely to shoot people? Go to hell

That's the play book. First they say you can't compare because the US is larger, but if you point out rates in the EU as a whole or look at per capita numbers, they fall back on 'different demographics.' Push enough and you get to pure racism

This is where we get to the “facts are racist” point of the debate.