Why are Northern Kids Flocking to Southern Universities?

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Anonymous wrote:My child fits this demo if you consider Maryland a Northern state. She is a student an a private known for academic rigor, and has top stats and good ecs. She’s applied to Clemson, GA Tech and Florida in addition to the more typical Vandy, Emory, etc. . . She plans to go to grad school and any of these schools would give her the research opportunities she needs with the bonus of great weather, good football teams, and lots of social opportunities. Ten years ago, her school sent many kids to northern SLACs. That still exists but many of her classmates are looking south.

Are they getting into northern slacs and turning them down for southern options or is the arms race forcing them?

I want to see data that shows kids getting into northern elite schools and actively turning the acceptance down to go south

They aren’t even applying anymore because what those schools have on offer aren’t appealing, at least respect to the slacs (obviously, the Ivies and MIT remain popular for kids that are so inclined). They don’t want cold, remote and small student body with no sports culture. Add in less research opportunities because of size and/or location.

I think it's 100% cost. Look at the thread on merit aid. Those SLACs are 80k a year now. Top OOS public schools like Michigan are over 50k a year. UVA and Cal think they're Harvard if you look at OOS tuition. A smart kid whose parents can afford 30 or 40k a year who misses out on their in state flagship can still go to most southern flagships

Full pay family here. Cost is a non-issue for our family. My kids applied to mostly southern schools. It had nothing to do with cost and everything to do with the vibe, beautiful campus, friendliness, weather, school spirit, etc. Friends and roommates at the southern college are all very wealthy. I think your just don’t see the appeal of these schools, which is fine. I am just here to say it definitely isn’t because people can’t afford anything else. They are offering a product we want to pay for.

Imagine that? Now unleash all of the close minded sheep to call you a MAGAT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child fits this demo if you consider Maryland a Northern state. She is a student an a private known for academic rigor, and has top stats and good ecs. She’s applied to Clemson, GA Tech and Florida in addition to the more typical Vandy, Emory, etc. . . She plans to go to grad school and any of these schools would give her the research opportunities she needs with the bonus of great weather, good football teams, and lots of social opportunities. Ten years ago, her school sent many kids to northern SLACs. That still exists but many of her classmates are looking south.

Are they getting into northern slacs and turning them down for southern options or is the arms race forcing them?

I want to see data that shows kids getting into northern elite schools and actively turning the acceptance down to go south

They aren’t even applying anymore because what those schools have on offer aren’t appealing, at least respect to the slacs (obviously, the Ivies and MIT remain popular for kids that are so inclined). They don’t want cold, remote and small student body with no sports culture. Add in less research opportunities because of size and/or location.

And yet AWS and nescac applications and acceptance rates keep getting harder…

…Occam’s razor suggests that kids who were marginal admits to lower tier northern slacs are going south — agreed

But not t10-15 slac targets

Pp and my kid definitely would be on top 25 percent of applicants at any of those schools, just not interested. Why is this concept so threatening to you?All schools applications are up, test optional southern schools just up more. No one is going to force your student to abandon northern slacs, ifthat is their preference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child fits this demo if you consider Maryland a Northern state. She is a student an a private known for academic rigor, and has top stats and good ecs. She’s applied to Clemson, GA Tech and Florida in addition to the more typical Vandy, Emory, etc. . . She plans to go to grad school and any of these schools would give her the research opportunities she needs with the bonus of great weather, good football teams, and lots of social opportunities. Ten years ago, her school sent many kids to northern SLACs. That still exists but many of her classmates are looking south.

Are they getting into northern slacs and turning them down for southern options or is the arms race forcing them?

I want to see data that shows kids getting into northern elite schools and actively turning the acceptance down to go south

They aren’t even applying anymore because what those schools have on offer aren’t appealing, at least respect to the slacs (obviously, the Ivies and MIT remain popular for kids that are so inclined). They don’t want cold, remote and small student body with no sports culture. Add in less research opportunities because of size and/or location.

I think it's 100% cost. Look at the thread on merit aid. Those SLACs are 80k a year now. Top OOS public schools like Michigan are over 50k a year. UVA and Cal think they're Harvard if you look at OOS tuition. A smart kid whose parents can afford 30 or 40k a year who misses out on their in state flagship can still go to most southern flagships

Full pay family here. Cost is a non-issue for our family. My kids applied to mostly southern schools. It had nothing to do with cost and everything to do with the vibe, beautiful campus, friendliness, weather, school spirit, etc. Friends and roommates at the southern college are all very wealthy. I think your just don’t see the appeal of these schools, which is fine. I am just here to say it definitely isn’t because people can’t afford anything else. They are offering a product we want to pay for.

PP here, I went to Clemson and hope my children do as well, and, yes, finances are one of the reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child fits this demo if you consider Maryland a Northern state. She is a student an a private known for academic rigor, and has top stats and good ecs. She’s applied to Clemson, GA Tech and Florida in addition to the more typical Vandy, Emory, etc. . . She plans to go to grad school and any of these schools would give her the research opportunities she needs with the bonus of great weather, good football teams, and lots of social opportunities. Ten years ago, her school sent many kids to northern SLACs. That still exists but many of her classmates are looking south.

Are they getting into northern slacs and turning them down for southern options or is the arms race forcing them?

I want to see data that shows kids getting into northern elite schools and actively turning the acceptance down to go south

They aren’t even applying anymore because what those schools have on offer aren’t appealing, at least respect to the slacs (obviously, the Ivies and MIT remain popular for kids that are so inclined). They don’t want cold, remote and small student body with no sports culture. Add in less research opportunities because of size and/or location.

And yet AWS and nescac applications and acceptance rates keep getting harder…

…Occam’s razor suggests that kids who were marginal admits to lower tier northern slacs are going south — agreed

But not t10-15 slac targets

Pp and my kid definitely would be on top 25 percent of applicants at any of those schools, just not interested. Why is this concept so threatening to you?All schools applications are up, test optional southern schools just up more. No one is going to force your student to abandon northern slacs, ifthat is their preference.

Sorry all schools up test optional, southern schools just up more. Misplaced punctuation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child fits this demo if you consider Maryland a Northern state. She is a student an a private known for academic rigor, and has top stats and good ecs. She’s applied to Clemson, GA Tech and Florida in addition to the more typical Vandy, Emory, etc. . . She plans to go to grad school and any of these schools would give her the research opportunities she needs with the bonus of great weather, good football teams, and lots of social opportunities. Ten years ago, her school sent many kids to northern SLACs. That still exists but many of her classmates are looking south.

Are they getting into northern slacs and turning them down for southern options or is the arms race forcing them?

I want to see data that shows kids getting into northern elite schools and actively turning the acceptance down to go south

They aren’t even applying anymore because what those schools have on offer aren’t appealing, at least respect to the slacs (obviously, the Ivies and MIT remain popular for kids that are so inclined). They don’t want cold, remote and small student body with no sports culture. Add in less research opportunities because of size and/or location.

I think it's 100% cost. Look at the thread on merit aid. Those SLACs are 80k a year now. Top OOS public schools like Michigan are over 50k a year. UVA and Cal think they're Harvard if you look at OOS tuition. A smart kid whose parents can afford 30 or 40k a year who misses out on their in state flagship can still go to most southern flagships

Full pay family here. Cost is a non-issue for our family. My kids applied to mostly southern schools. It had nothing to do with cost and everything to do with the vibe, beautiful campus, friendliness, weather, school spirit, etc. Friends and roommates at the southern college are all very wealthy. I think your just don’t see the appeal of these schools, which is fine. I am just here to say it definitely isn’t because people can’t afford anything else. They are offering a product we want to pay for.

Imagine that? Now unleash all of the close minded sheep to call you a MAGAT.

PP here. They can all me MAGA but they are wrong. Hard core liberal democrat that just happens to send their children to southern schools. Not everything is about politics!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child fits this demo if you consider Maryland a Northern state. She is a student an a private known for academic rigor, and has top stats and good ecs. She’s applied to Clemson, GA Tech and Florida in addition to the more typical Vandy, Emory, etc. . . She plans to go to grad school and any of these schools would give her the research opportunities she needs with the bonus of great weather, good football teams, and lots of social opportunities. Ten years ago, her school sent many kids to northern SLACs. That still exists but many of her classmates are looking south.

Are they getting into northern slacs and turning them down for southern options or is the arms race forcing them?

I want to see data that shows kids getting into northern elite schools and actively turning the acceptance down to go south

They aren’t even applying anymore because what those schools have on offer aren’t appealing, at least respect to the slacs (obviously, the Ivies and MIT remain popular for kids that are so inclined). They don’t want cold, remote and small student body with no sports culture. Add in less research opportunities because of size and/or location.

I think it's 100% cost. Look at the thread on merit aid. Those SLACs are 80k a year now. Top OOS public schools like Michigan are over 50k a year. UVA and Cal think they're Harvard if you look at OOS tuition. A smart kid whose parents can afford 30 or 40k a year who misses out on their in state flagship can still go to most southern flagships

Full pay family here. Cost is a non-issue for our family. My kids applied to mostly southern schools. It had nothing to do with cost and everything to do with the vibe, beautiful campus, friendliness, weather, school spirit, etc. Friends and roommates at the southern college are all very wealthy. I think your just don’t see the appeal of these schools, which is fine. I am just here to say it definitely isn’t because people can’t afford anything else. They are offering a product we want to pay for.

Imagine that? Now unleash all of the close minded sheep to call you a MAGAT.

PP here. They can all me MAGA but they are wrong. Hard core liberal democrat that just happens to send their children to southern schools. Not everything is about politics!

Why is it that your ilk always has to announce things like you are a "hard core liberal democrat"? Why not just be comfortable with your decision and not care what other people think? It's like you need to massage your guilt and are worried you'll be excommunicated from you libby cult.

[Anonymous]

This is the wealthiest college student-athlete in America. Olivia Dunne, a gymnast at LSU. She's a multi-millionaire. This is what American teen kids are bombarded with on tiktok and instagram - southern belles and bros wearing skimpy clothes at sunny and fun warm weather colleges.

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Full pay family here. Cost is a non-issue for our family. My kids applied to mostly southern schools. It had nothing to do with cost and everything to do with the vibe, beautiful campus, friendliness, weather, school spirit, etc. Friends and roommates at the southern college are all very wealthy. I think your just don’t see the appeal of these schools, which is fine. I am just here to say it definitely isn’t because people can’t afford anything else. They are offering a product we want to pay for.

I know three families recently who sent their kids to Clemson, Auburn, and Ole Miss. All of them are loaded professionals. The kids are all outgoing and smart and got merit awards to go to big southern universities they wanted to in the first place. It was a win/win.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the wealthiest college student-athlete in America. Olivia Dunne, a gymnast at LSU. She's a multi-millionaire. This is what American teen kids are bombarded with on tiktok and instagram - southern belles and bros wearing skimpy clothes at sunny and fun warm weather colleges.

She is adorable, extremely talented and hard working. What is the issue, exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:This is the wealthiest college student-athlete in America. Olivia Dunne, a gymnast at LSU. She's a multi-millionaire. This is what American teen kids are bombarded with on tiktok and instagram - southern belles and bros wearing skimpy clothes at sunny and fun warm weather colleges.

She is adorable, extremely talented and hard working. What is the issue, exactly?

Do these girls ever eat? Her waist looks unnaturally tiny.

[Anonymous]

There are lots of people with tons of cash who aren't intellectually minded. Their kids aren't looking to contemplate Sappho in a brick library covered in Ivy. They want to do an easy major like Business with a Management focus and hop into the corporate ranks, all while doing as little reading and paper writing as possible. For this type, schools like Bama and Ole Miss are a great option. These are the people who would rather own a newly built house in a subdivision than a Kalorama townhouse. They drive a Tahoe with 4WD even if they never engage the 4X4 to pick their kid up from cheer lessons. Meanwhile, the professors and the intellectuals are still battling over spots at places like Middlebury for their kids.

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Her parents must be so proud that she’s a virtual prosty and countless incels are wanking to her videos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the wealthiest college student-athlete in America. Olivia Dunne, a gymnast at LSU. She's a multi-millionaire. This is what American teen kids are bombarded with on tiktok and instagram - southern belles and bros wearing skimpy clothes at sunny and fun warm weather colleges.

She is adorable, extremely talented and hard working. What is the issue, exactly?

I'm the PP. No issue, I'm responding to the thread, citing a source of where this trend is coming from. Cute gals like this are viral. As are gorgeous random southern belle sorority girls. Teens nationwide can't get enough of this and are seeking out sunny climate colleges. The merit awards (free money) and booming sun belt economies help as well. I really think cold climate colleges, especially non-prestige ones, are in for a world of hurt moving forward.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the wealthiest college student-athlete in America. Olivia Dunne, a gymnast at LSU. She's a multi-millionaire. This is what American teen kids are bombarded with on tiktok and instagram - southern belles and bros wearing skimpy clothes at sunny and fun warm weather colleges.

Bryce Young out earned her by about $1 million.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the wealthiest college student-athlete in America. Olivia Dunne, a gymnast at LSU. She's a multi-millionaire. This is what American teen kids are bombarded with on tiktok and instagram - southern belles and bros wearing skimpy clothes at sunny and fun warm weather colleges.

She is adorable, extremely talented and hard working. What is the issue, exactly?

I find it kind of sad the the Cavinder twins out earn the entire SC women's national championship team combined, that's just me though