ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Some kids go to school early and that doesn't affect their age group.

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

It’s obvious there’s an August kid that they are afraid of competing against. News flash if you’re afraid to compete you usually lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

Telling how you want to attack all kids playjng on a correct grade team withh players upto 36 months older via allowing holdbacks to play down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some kids go to school early and that doesn't affect their age group.

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

The more you try to confuse parents the more they get educated on why Aug birthdays need to play on their correct grade in school team.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 = ≤ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 = ≤ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 = ≤ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 = ≤ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 = ≤ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 = ≤ 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 = ≤ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 = ≤ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 = ≤ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 = ≤ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 = ≤ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 = ≤ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 = ≤ kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

To clarify, you are being a good Samaritan with passing on information and not randomly saying that you would like grade groups? Essentially, you are keeping your opinion to yourself, correct?

Im sorry for asking this, it is just tiring that the delusional August troll has to try to make everyone against what they want as the boogyman.

I guess… I also broke some new on the old forum that got shut down because of all the comments. I have a friend who works for USYS as well as other ECNL club directors.

From what I understand this would be mostly to break up the U19 group
For showcase stuff because tournaments/showcases will be U17 skip U18 and add this kids in with U19. Like in years past. But now they will allow the kids who are eligible for U18 based off the new age matrix to either stay in U19 or goto U17 if they are a current Junior only.

I know nothing of forcing kids to play their grade but rather this is just to align better if kids/coaches would prefer that option. Not for league play is what I’m told. They will have to stay U19 for that.

We will see how it all gets finalized as everyone has a lot on their plate currently…

See ya I’ll be back in a few days or so.

So... Cuting through the nonsense. Because you're able to hold back kids 2x in school.

u17 showcases become u19

u19 showcases become u21?

Incredible magic trick.

Not what they said and you’re a tool.
If they are eligible for U18 that means they are 17 and turning 18 at so point during the season. So a U18 December kid would be 17 for a showcase between Aug to November.

Stop making things crazy like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

To clarify, you are being a good Samaritan with passing on information and not randomly saying that you would like grade groups? Essentially, you are keeping your opinion to yourself, correct?

Im sorry for asking this, it is just tiring that the delusional August troll has to try to make everyone against what they want as the boogyman.

I guess… I also broke some new on the old forum that got shut down because of all the comments. I have a friend who works for USYS as well as other ECNL club directors.

From what I understand this would be mostly to break up the U19 group
For showcase stuff because tournaments/showcases will be U17 skip U18 and add this kids in with U19. Like in years past. But now they will allow the kids who are eligible for U18 based off the new age matrix to either stay in U19 or goto U17 if they are a current Junior only.

I know nothing of forcing kids to play their grade but rather this is just to align better if kids/coaches would prefer that option. Not for league play is what I’m told. They will have to stay U19 for that.

We will see how it all gets finalized as everyone has a lot on their plate currently…

See ya I’ll be back in a few days or so.

So... Cuting through the nonsense. Because you're able to hold back kids 2x in school.

u17 showcases become u19

u19 showcases become u21?

Incredible magic trick.

Not what they said and you’re a tool.
If they are eligible for U18 that means they are 17 and turning 18 at so point during the season. So a U18 December kid would be 17 for a showcase between Aug to November.

Stop making things crazy like you.

if players are allowed to play down because of GY Showcases u17 becomes u19 and u19 becomes u21.

Seems very clear

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

Telling how you want to attack all kids playjng on a correct grade team withh players upto 36 months older via allowing holdbacks to play down.

Nope, 12 month window. You want GY, people (not me) telling you showcases going GY is them saying they want it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

To clarify, you are being a good Samaritan with passing on information and not randomly saying that you would like grade groups? Essentially, you are keeping your opinion to yourself, correct?

Im sorry for asking this, it is just tiring that the delusional August troll has to try to make everyone against what they want as the boogyman.

I guess… I also broke some new on the old forum that got shut down because of all the comments. I have a friend who works for USYS as well as other ECNL club directors.

From what I understand this would be mostly to break up the U19 group
For showcase stuff because tournaments/showcases will be U17 skip U18 and add this kids in with U19. Like in years past. But now they will allow the kids who are eligible for U18 based off the new age matrix to either stay in U19 or goto U17 if they are a current Junior only.

I know nothing of forcing kids to play their grade but rather this is just to align better if kids/coaches would prefer that option. Not for league play is what I’m told. They will have to stay U19 for that.

We will see how it all gets finalized as everyone has a lot on their plate currently…

See ya I’ll be back in a few days or so.

So... Cuting through the nonsense. Because you're able to hold back kids 2x in school.

u17 showcases become u19

u19 showcases become u21?

Incredible magic trick.

Not what they said and you’re a tool.
If they are eligible for U18 that means they are 17 and turning 18 at so point during the season. So a U18 December kid would be 17 for a showcase between Aug to November.

Stop making things crazy like you.

if players are allowed to play down because of GY Showcases u17 becomes u19 and u19 becomes u21.

Seems very clear

If you can hold back kids 2x in school you end up with 16 year old freshman and 20 year old seniors. This is where u21 comes in.

instead of being sneaky just call it like it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some kids go to school early and that doesn't affect their age group.

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

The more you try to confuse parents the more they get educated on why Aug birthdays need to play on their correct grade in school team.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 = ≤ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 = ≤ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 = ≤ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 = ≤ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 = ≤ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 = ≤ 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 = ≤ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 = ≤ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 = ≤ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 = ≤ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 = ≤ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 = ≤ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 = ≤ kindergarten

But the original is more accurate

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

Telling how you want to attack all kids playjng on a correct grade team withh players upto 36 months older via allowing holdbacks to play down.

Nope, 12 month window. You want GY, people (not me) telling you showcases going GY is them saying they want it.

Ok 👍 its and Anonymous forum and the guy pushing for GY showcases tries to manipulate numbers and dates all the time. It gets old calling the dubious math out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some kids go to school early and that doesn't affect their age group.

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

The more you try to confuse parents the more they get educated on why Aug birthdays need to play on their correct grade in school team.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 = ≤ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 = ≤ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 = ≤ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 = ≤ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 = ≤ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 = ≤ 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 = ≤ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 = ≤ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 = ≤ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 = ≤ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 = ≤ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 = ≤ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 = ≤ kindergarten

But the original is more accurate

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

The more you try to confuse parents the more they get educated on why Aug birthdays need to play on their correct grade in school team.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 = ≤ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 = ≤ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 = ≤ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 = ≤ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 = ≤ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 = ≤ 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 = ≤ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 = ≤ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 = ≤ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 = ≤ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 = ≤ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 = ≤ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 = ≤ kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster about showcases and high level tournaments having grad year for juniors/seniors.

I have heard this is definitely going to happen.
What are the exact rules no idea and they are still working on the language that will be used as they don’t want it abused with 20 year old stuff.

The goal of it is to align kids with their grade for tournament purposes only to help make college recruiting more efficient.

If you are mad at about it no reason to argue with me because I don’t make the rules.

This will not be needed once SY happens this fall and Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team.

This is because when Aug birthdays are playing on their correct grade in school team eveyone on the field is the same grade (graduating year). Which is what college coaches want.

Holdbacks can play HS soccer and attend college camps/ids. They are also welcome to play on the correct age team whatever that is.

Forcing August kids to play grade year but not other months doesn't move the needle for going grade year. To few to make it worth the hassle and you can't verify their grades. No reason why August should play grade but September and July and October and June shouldn't. Unless their is an Aug girl blocking your Sept girl.

So "forcing" Aug birthdays to play against players potentially 13 months older is somehow worse than FORCING correct grade players to play against holdbacks up
to 36 months older?

Just admit that youre a hypocrite.

Telling how you only attack August kids. Almost like there is only one kid you are targeting. One that will play on your DD team next year. Interesting.

Telling how you want to attack all kids playjng on a correct grade team withh players upto 36 months older via allowing holdbacks to play down.

Nope, 12 month window. You want GY, people (not me) telling you showcases going GY is them saying they want it.

Ok 👍 its and Anonymous forum and the guy pushing for GY showcases tries to manipulate numbers and dates all the time. It gets old calling the dubious math out.

Can you cite a post where someone said they are pushing for GY showcases? I haven't seen any. Seems like something you are making up again.

I've only seen the ones pointing that work is being done for showcases to go GY.

[Anonymous]

This is fine.

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Still fine.

This is fine.

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophmore
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st
8/1/2021 and younger = kindergarten