Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:So he bled out all over the SUV?

They likely had a BleedStop or other gunshot wound control patch kit.

No, all they had was a dirty sock tourniquet and hope.

Did you make that up? What would you apply a tourniquet to when the victim’s carotid artery has been destroyed?

In such a situation, you grab the first thing available and apply it as a tourniquet hoping it will hopefully stop or at least delay the bleeding long enough to get the victim to the hospital or ambulance for a blood transfusion and more effective means to stop the bleeding.

I doubt there was someone nearby who looked at Charlie’s wound and declared, “Artery destroyed, no hope. Don’t try to save him. ”

Shouldn't there be a medical expert at every large event just in case we need this kind of ruling?

With thousands of people there? Yes absolutely. Even high school football games are required to have an ambulance in attendance.

People with certain injuries will bleed out, even in a hospital.

Well, we should also look at toxicology. If there were weird meds (and maybe abusing drugs?) then there's a whole host of things that could've happened. Why are they covering this up?

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Anonymous wrote:So he bled out all over the SUV?

They likely had a BleedStop or other gunshot wound control patch kit.

No, all they had was a dirty sock tourniquet and hope.

Did you make that up? What would you apply a tourniquet to when the victim’s carotid artery has been destroyed?

In such a situation, you grab the first thing available and apply it as a tourniquet hoping it will hopefully stop or at least delay the bleeding long enough to get the victim to the hospital or ambulance for a blood transfusion and more effective means to stop the bleeding.

I doubt there was someone nearby who looked at Charlie’s wound and declared, “Artery destroyed, no hope. Don’t try to save him. ”

Shouldn't there be a medical expert at every large event just in case we need this kind of ruling?

With thousands of people there? Yes absolutely. Even high school football games are required to have an ambulance in attendance.

People with certain injuries will bleed out, even in a hospital.

Well, we should also look at toxicology. If there were weird meds (and maybe abusing drugs?) then there's a whole host of things that could've happened. Why are they covering this up?

So you try to get access to Kirk’s medical records. Go for it.

When you get them, post them here unredacted.

Don’t let his medical records stay private. Get them and release them!

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The bodyguards need to be objectively investigated.

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Driving him to the hospital also destroyed potential evidence.

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Where is the evidence of which “radical left terrorist” group Tyler was associated with? Where is the evidence that he shot CK in association with this group?

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Anonymous wrote:The entire exchange is strange in that they didn’t talk yet continue to text, who wouldn’t call the other after admitting to a killing, come again?

He was trying to escape capture and possible execution at any minute. Also, kids that age prefer texts to phone calls. Perhaps he did not know if the roommate was in a place where he/she could talk.

DP. Which makes the use of long complete sentences all the more suspicious. I don’t really get a sense of urgency or adrenaline in his texts.

The texts they released are weird as hell, and I wonder what’s in texts they haven’t released. From the little bit they released, Robinson is neither saying goodbye to Twigg nor promising to see him soon. Twigg isn’t asking where Robinson is hiding or if there’s any avenue for escape. There’s really no handwringing about the dire situation they’re in. Robinson is more scared of having to explain the missing gun to his dad than getting caught by the police. None of it reads like either one said “in case I never see you again…”

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You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

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Anonymous wrote:So he bled out all over the SUV?

They likely had a BleedStop or other gunshot wound control patch kit.

No, all they had was a dirty sock tourniquet and hope.

Did you make that up? What would you apply a tourniquet to when the victim’s carotid artery has been destroyed?

In such a situation, you grab the first thing available and apply it as a tourniquet hoping it will hopefully stop or at least delay the bleeding long enough to get the victim to the hospital or ambulance for a blood transfusion and more effective means to stop the bleeding.

I doubt there was someone nearby who looked at Charlie’s wound and declared, “Artery destroyed, no hope. Don’t try to save him. ”

Shouldn't there be a medical expert at every large event just in case we need this kind of ruling?

With thousands of people there? Yes absolutely. Even high school football games are required to have an ambulance in attendance.

People with certain injuries will bleed out, even in a hospital.

Well, we should also look at toxicology. If there were weird meds (and maybe abusing drugs?) then there's a whole host of things that could've happened. Why are they covering this up?

So you try to get access to Kirk’s medical records. Go for it.

When you get them, post them here unredacted.

Don’t let his medical records stay private. Get them and release them!

I thought that comment was tongue-in-cheek, but even if it wasn’t, autopsy reports aren’t covered by HIPAA the same way a living person’s medical records are. There are usually published reports of the autopsy findings after high profile deaths. Coroners’ reports get released all the time.

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Could they possibly slow down the video enough to see where the bullet originated? Like rewind it?

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I am sure they must have cameras facing out and capturing the origin of the shot and shooter.

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Candace Owens Is not believing what has been reported, pointing to missing and questionable facts and a cover up.... stay tuned.

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Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

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Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

They were there to keep people from throwing things at him, coming on stage, punching or slapping him, physically blocking him from leaving. They were there for minor disputes, not Secret Service-level protection. It seems neither he nor TPUSA paid for that kind of security detail.

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Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

They were there to keep people from throwing things at him, coming on stage, punching or slapping him, physically blocking him from leaving. They were there for minor disputes, not Secret Service-level protection. It seems neither he nor TPUSA paid for that kind of security detail.

Whose idea was is to throw a gravely injured Charlie and any potential evidence into the backseat of an SUV? Who made that decision?

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Anonymous wrote:You would think they would have training in catastrophic injuries

Why even bother having bodyguards?

They were there to keep people from throwing things at him, coming on stage, punching or slapping him, physically blocking him from leaving. They were there for minor disputes, not Secret Service-level protection. It seems neither he nor TPUSA paid for that kind of security detail.

Whose idea was is to throw a gravely injured Charlie and any potential evidence into the backseat of an SUV? Who made that decision?

They probably did what they thought was best and fastest to get him to the hospital.